kevanyalowitz

Exactly! The same people that decided to take delivery of brand new 788/789s with the outdated seat installed.

Madone59

^ Exactly.

BB2220

At least the people who thought it was good to have eight across business seating are gone

Bonehead

I'm 6'3" and have no issue with the BF seats on pmCO aircraft. I don't know where some of you folks come up with these claims.

greg99

As they say, "Your Mileage May Vary."

Coincidentally, I, too, am 6'3", and I find the pmCO BF seats much tighter in the footwell (uncomfortably so) than the pmUA BF seats. I struggle to fit my 12EEE feet in the pmCO footwells.

I say this not to suggest that you're incorrect with respect to your own comfort, but to illustrate that there are others who have different experiences, as borne out by the 9 bagajillion threads and posts on this particular topic in the past.

If you truly "don't know where some of you folks come up with these claims," I would suggest taking a look at one of those prior threads.

Greg

WineCountryUA

Excellent point -- been lots of threads on the two legacy lie-flat seating systems and individual preferences

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...pmua-pmco.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...than-pmua.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-400-intl.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...f-product.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...e-layouts.html

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...nessfirst.html

Just for a few.

Doubt there is anything new to add in this thread or that we really need another thread on that topic, so let's stay on the future 777-300ER topic here.

WineCountryUA
UA coModerator

Longboater

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/id...50303?irpc=932

Rainey stirs the pot yet again. Comment I found most interesting was he mentioned consolidating the 747 fleet yet again. Rainey talked about how the 747s could be consolidated to one area, the only workable one is be SFO-East Asia, and have the 77W "in other markets". I'm reading into this that the 77W will likely be ORD-Asia, particularly ORD-HKG as the 77W won't be subject to the same performance issues as the 772 currently does and the 747 in the past. CX is actually reducing ORD-HKG back to once daily rather than ten times weekly. United has held its own turf.

This interview all but confirms United is going to order the 777-300ER. They are probably in the midst of negotiations on finalising the order and delivery schedule. Rainey mentioned the 77Ws would not only arrive before the A350-1000s arrive, but implied that then supposed ten ordered, would all be delivered before the first A350-1000 arrives on the property. I believe the earliest one could arrive as soon as next year. With Boeing/GE to officially announce a new performance improvement package to the 77W starting next year, reducing fuel burn by another two per cent, United might use this as the opportunity to have their future 77W come with this PIP. The 777X will have to wait a while before United pulls the plug.

Also, Smisek has said a billion times, United loves the 787 and its working quite well for them.

787fan

the only thing i care about the 777-300ER would be :

is UA gonna FINALLY launch a new 1-2-1 J ?

B787938

Read the above cited Reuters feed myself. Rainey doesn't come off as controversial, just as kind of a simpleton and lacks any level of sophistication about the industry.

The new United has been struggling with fleet issues: too many 50-seat RJs, old ratty sUA 752s and 744s. They need the 773ER.

But, when he says The A321Neo-LR has "issues"? What does he mean? Like as in they are expensive and the order book of the 320 family means UA will wait forever to get them?

Surely he can't mean "issues" in terms of customer experience, fleet commonality with the 319s/320s they have (and have said they are looking for used ones), etc.. The new AA 321s -- and even the newer build US ones -- are really nice planes to fly on.

Then again, I am sure Rainey spends most of his time dreaming of 11-abreast seating in the 773ER and how to fit more slimlines in the 739ERs.

ZZYZXROAD

The A350 XWB will replace the 747, not the 772ER.

787fan

He's dreaming how to beat AC at their game by fitting 77W with 500 seats while still offering 1-2-1 J and E+.

sbm12

Likely that the capacity for TATL is lower than the 752s so it will be harder to justify using them in that role.

Longboater

At least Smisek and Co. are slowly coming to realise that they can't kick the can down the road any further on replacing the mechanically challenged 747s much further and late 2018, even early 2019 is not enough for many of the oldest 747s needing potentially two more D checks before retiring. They acknowledged a 50 seater problem and will park dozens more 50 seaters by years end. They've even matched Delta's soft product upfront by adding wifi and meals on flights longer than 800 miles. Maybe they might have enough by the end of the year to match Delta's commitment of having two class RJs on flights at least two hours in length. I think the issues are how the A321NEO-LR might handle DEN-Hawai'i.

Regardless, this management is not innovative and is playing catch up to Delta and even USdbaAA.

harryhood

Exactly. I suspect TATL 757's work very well for UA -- older depreciated airframes carrying good CASM given the much higher TATL fares they can charge for flights only a hair or two longer than TCONs like JFK-LAX/SFO.

If the A321 cannot offer what the 757 does today, that sucks for UA.

JOSECONLSCREW28

The company has mentioned internally that they would like to move the sCO 757 away from Continental Europe within the next 18 - 24 months and isolate them to UK/Ireland flights where reliability isn't much of a concern or issue. Part of this involves reconfiguring the 3-cabin 763s to the 2-cabin 763 standard and taking more 787 deliveries. So expect 777s, 787s & 767s to Continental Europe and sCO 757s to UK/Ireland. Also look for more of the sCO 757s to fly more transcons such as EWR - LAX/SFO/SEA etc and West Coast/DEN - Hawaii flights. EWR - LHR will of course continue to see a mix of sCO 777s, 787s, 767s in addition to possibly a 757 or 2 during the summer travel season.