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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/aircraft/777/300/default.aspx
UA Orders Boeing 777-300ERs / 77Ws w/ 1-2-1 Polaris Business, 3-4-3 Economy
Jan 21, 2015, 1:27 pm
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Jan 21, 2015, 3:08 pm
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Not quite. Through our, and a couple other select agencies, you can buy full J and upgrade to F without using miles/instruments - it's a special arrangement we're able to offer (on LH as well), but as I've written on a few occasions, no matter how we market it, no one will pay full J for UA GF - smart customers understand the value proposition and will either pay deep discount J on another carrier, or our high value customers will just pay discounted F on their preferred foreign carrier. Case in point - I've mentioned it here on numerous occasions, yet not a single FT member has sent me a message asking for information because nobody here is going to pay full J to sit in GF given their more extensive knowledge of the product.
Jan 21, 2015, 3:50 pm
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I've sold the second a few times to customers, though the upgrade from J to F is not the driver of the decision but rather the flexibility and combinability of the full fare tickets. The J->F upgrade was just icing on the cake.
Jan 21, 2015, 4:05 pm
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DL and AA are installing them on all new domestic narrowbodies, but UA is perfectly content being an outlier.
There's no reason UA has to install them on international planes.
Jan 21, 2015, 4:33 pm
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FWIW, there was a period when I was regularly flying ORD-LHR in F and NSRAs regularly at least equaled revenue pax, including one flight when it was me, three NSRAs, and an empty seat. In fact, the only flight on which I checked the manifest and didn't have at least one NSRA was when UA severely overbooked the flight and bumped two GS's into F.
Jan 21, 2015, 4:43 pm
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Of all those SFO-HKG is the only one where that's consistantly the case. The others, seasonally. However business on all those routes are consistantly full year round. For NRSA, GF is an easier grab than BF
Jan 21, 2015, 4:46 pm
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Jan 21, 2015, 6:25 pm
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Jan 21, 2015, 6:50 pm
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If they were going to remove IFE, why are the 787s delivered with it?
Jan 21, 2015, 8:08 pm
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Jan 21, 2015, 8:11 pm
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I actually spoke to Jeff S at the last CO MegaDo in IAH about 5 years ago when he was #2 at CO, and I asked the question about getting more 777's particularly -300s. Of course the answer was it did not make sense to continue to buy old technology, and they were going after stretch 787s (-9 and -10s) to replace its existing 777s.
But this was when there were no delays announced for the 787. Of course, we know what happened and all the issues with the 787. Plus the 787-8 is too small.
DL and AA bought more 777s. I think this is the reality of the situation with the 787 and the need to replace the 747s sooner rather than later.
But this was when there were no delays announced for the 787. Of course, we know what happened and all the issues with the 787. Plus the 787-8 is too small.
DL and AA bought more 777s. I think this is the reality of the situation with the 787 and the need to replace the 747s sooner rather than later.
Jan 21, 2015, 8:35 pm
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They know how crappy the 744's are in Y. Smisek commented on it several years ago with reference to the OZ flights. That said, it's unlikely the 77W will be much of an upgrade for those stuck in E-. Slimlines, 10 across, and 31" pitch. Personal AVOD doesn't make that seat any less miserable.
Jan 21, 2015, 8:40 pm
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I actually spoke to Jeff S at the last CO MegaDo in IAH about 5 years ago when he was #2 at CO, and I asked the question about getting more 777's particularly -300s. Of course the answer was it did not make sense to continue to buy old technology, and they were going after stretch 787s (-9 and -10s) to replace its existing 777s.
But this was when there were no delays announced for the 787.
But this was when there were no delays announced for the 787.