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It is worth pointing out from the stories that there are 167 countries on the amber list, but there were no cases reported in travellers from 151 of them. Now a good number of those countries must be pretty hard to arrive from (with no one arriving from them), but there will be quite a few that you could argue should be on the green list. Equally, the positives must be from a limited number of countries which puts them at risk.
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Originally Posted by DaveS
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It is worth pointing out from the stories that there are 167 countries on the amber list, but there were no cases reported in travellers from 151 of them. Now a good number of those countries must be pretty hard to arrive from (with no one arriving from them), but there will be quite a few that you could argue should be on the green list. Equally, the positives must be from a limited number of countries which puts them at risk.
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Originally Posted by DaveS
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I have not posted this for a while, but here is an update to the figures for the Managed Quarantine Service in England. This would be everyone entering England from non green list countries and who is not super exempt.
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Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave
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I think the data relates only to the recent 3 week interval. So India was put on the Red list on 23 April and thus not showing in the Amber data. This set of "leaks" has the hallmarks of Grant Shapps reporting on what he thinks Matt Hancock thinks, in order the bounce the Thursday meeting into opening up more from mid July. Matt Hancock does little or no leaking (he is somewhat busy) hence this is my reading of a story in 4 separate newspapers this morning, and the lead in the Mail print edition.
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Originally Posted by DaveS
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I have not posted this for a while, but here is an update to the figures for the Managed Quarantine Service in England. This would be everyone entering England from non green list countries and who is not super exempt.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...a4dc0682c4.png |
Originally Posted by KSVVZ2015
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Presumably this doesn't cover privately sold home tests? Surprised they are approaching 10K/week into hotel quarantine.
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Speaking of hotel quarantine. This website is a bit trashy, I must admit, but if this is true, well, it's problematic:
Couple quarantining in Heathrow hotel with child, 4, 'not sent food for three days'Trinadha Sathapathi, his partner and four-year-old daughter have also spent the last two days without running waterA couple quarantining in a Heathrow hotel with their four-year-old daughter claim they went three days without food and have spent the last two without running water. Trinadha Sathapathi, a banker from Milton Keynes, his partner and their four-year-old daughter arrived from India on June 9 after a three-month stay prolonged by the cancellation of flights due to the Covid-19 pandemic. In accordance with UK coronavirus quarantine measures, the family were put to stay 10 days at the Hilton Heathrow Terminal 5 hotel, costing £2,725, by Corporate Travel Management Limited, a business travel management company. Today (June 20) marks their 10th and final day at the hotel having arrived on June 9. Trinadha said: "The room we were given to stay in was nice and it was just what you would expect from a hotel with Hilton." It wasn't until the fourth day that the family began experiencing problems. Trinadha states that the hotel had originally informed him they did not have any gluten free options, only to later provide a gluten free meal choice for dinner. His young daughter suffers from an intolerance to gluten and he requested gluten-free food be provided. Despite this, Trinadha said: "The hotel staff continued to send me sandwiches that contained gluten for many days after I made them aware that my daughter would not be able to eat it. "I was very disappointed." Then, he claims, food from the hotel stopped arriving altogether. Trinadha said: "They stopped sending food for my partner and I. For three days we had to call the hotel management and request for meals to be sent. "When I was finally able to get through to them they told me that I had informed them that I did not want food to be sent if it contained gluten. "This was not the case. The request was made in regards to my young daughter, not my wife and I. I was very clear about that." The family were instead forced to order food using online delivery services to ensure that they did not go hungry. In addition, the family has been have forced to go without running water for the last two days. Trinadha said: "The water stopped working at around 5am yesterday (June 19). "We were able to flush the toilet up until 2pm because there was some water left in the tank but since then we have not been able to take a shower, wash our hands or even flush the toilet "We weren't even able to wash our daughter. "I tried to call the hotel multiple times but they ignored my calls. I think that they were dealing with a lot of unhappy residents who were all suffering from the same issue". The family was eventually informed of the cause of the water issues by a letter that was slipped under the door at 10pm last night, 17 hours after the water stopped working. "They didn't even knock," Trinadha said. |
Originally Posted by paulaf
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Shame we can't see that list of 151!
You'd want to have a look at Table 21. It's pretty disgraceful really, only 6 out of the 50 countries on the red-list are shown, in the spreadsheet, as being the source of an imported covid variant in the past month. |
Daily data:
Cases 10,633 (7,742 last Monday) Deaths 5 (3) People vaccinated up to and including 20 June 2021: First dose: 43,127,763 Second dose: 31,449,915 The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now up 31.4% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is up 12.1%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 10.6 today. |
Originally Posted by cauchy
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It's pretty disgraceful really, only 6 out of the 50 countries on the red-list are shown, in the spreadsheet, as being the source of an imported covid variant in the past month.
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Originally Posted by DaveS
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Daily data:
Cases 10,633 (7,742 last Monday) Deaths 5 (3) People vaccinated up to and including 20 June 2021: First dose: 43,127,763 Second dose: 31,449,915 The rolling seven day daily average for cases is now up 31.4% on the previous week and the same measure for deaths is up 12.1%. The rolling 7 day daily average for deaths is 10.6 today. |
Originally Posted by fransknorge
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Why are you not showing hospital cases and ICU cases anymore ? Those data are not available anymore ?
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Deleted. Beaten to it.
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Can somebody with good insight in data confirm whether my thoughts are correct?
Most of the cases recently are young unvaccinated <50yo, who are very unlikely to die of covid unless with other underlying health conditions. It seems like hospitalisation and death rate doesn't grow proportionally to number of cases. If that is the case now, why should we base our restrictions on number of infections rather than hospitalisations and deaths? Covid is not even in top 20 causes of deaths in UK right now, despite having a steady growth in infections for past month. |
From the BBC:
The transport secretary says he is “cautiously hopeful” about being able to lift some restrictions on international travel as a result of the vaccine programme. Grant Shapps says the government had always committed to regularly reviewing its international travel plan with the first “checkpoint” taking place on 28 June. He says the checkpoints will look at whether the “science would support” relaxations - including letting people who have received two vaccine doses return from certain countries without quarantining. “We’ll have to see what science leads us to be able to do and when, but that's why we've got these checkpoints in place," he says. |
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