Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 33329640)

There are no changes to the process, however the mood music clearly isn't favouring mass openings on to the Green list until mid / end July. The PM was asked about travel and he in essence said the restrictions are what they are. He did however say two other things, and to paraphrase, we have to at some point live with this virus even though it will continue to be a public health risk; but it follows that once vaccination has reached a high degree of coverage then we will have to find ways to operate our lives more openly, more normal than now. I would interpret the latter clause to include international travel even though it would probably be the final thing on the list. The one thing we know he is keen on is for London to resume life as a metropolis again, he really doesn't like WFH.

PS: the press conference went on for 45 minutes, are you sure you are not over-watering your lilly?

Originally Posted by HB7 (Post 33329680)

I agree - but what about the traffic light system review due on the 28th of June? Will that still go ahead - and if so, why? Is it fair to say no changes will be announced until maybe, possibly, the review in August?

Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 33329697)

That is due to go ahead on 28 June. What we've learned in the last year is that we best have a look at the numbers, in the UK and overseas, on about 24 June to see what may or may not happen.

Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 33329697)

That is due to go ahead on 28 June. What we've learned in the last year is that we best have a look at the numbers, in the UK and overseas, on about 24 June to see what may or may not happen.

Originally Posted by KSVVZ2015 (Post 33329705)

I’m pessimistic on many changes even if the data supports it. The removal of Portugal was dubious based on data. I think the heartlands that see travel = more COVID full stop that supported full hotel quarantine, etc. will view a mass expansion of the green list negatively given the delay to Freedom Day. BoJo and team know this and don’t want to P/O voters. I again feel a political rather than science based decision is coming.

Now, you have lots of good insights and intel, so happy to be told I’m being pessimistic!

Originally Posted by DaveS (Post 33329665)

Just in case anyone is interested, BBC World TV are broadcasting Hard Talk interviewing the CEO of EasyJet on travel right now.

Originally Posted by Kgmm77 (Post 33329780)

It will be interesting to see how Ireland reacts to the UK’s stance on foreign travel. With Ireland scheduled to fully commit to the EU Digital Certificate from 19 July, for pretty much the first time since the start of the pandemic Irish travel restrictions may be less severe than those in force in the UK. At the same time, the Irish cabinet is today discussing adding GB to Mandatory Hotel Quarrantine. As well as being months too late, it potentially introduces all sorts of loopholes and arbitrage opportunities for travel via NI and for NI residents.

Originally Posted by The _Banking_Scot (Post 33329804)

Hi,

I thought from reading on sky that hotel quarantine would only apply to those who are not vaccinated.

Guess we will find out later

Regards

Tbs

Originally Posted by 13901 (Post 33329521)

Then, and even worse, HMG at large failed to add India to the red list for 2, 3 weeks despite they had ample evidence of the fact that a new variant was emerging

Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 33329624)

Some paperwork has been worked on overnight and though it is all dressed up in the usual cliché soup, the 4 page document can be surmised (by me) in one sentence: the target now is to get 90% first doses for adults done by mid July and 75% second doses. You will all know what I think about herd immunity, but this is the bone I can throw in terms of what it may look like.

The current adult dose rates are 79.20% and 56.93%. To get 90% doesn't strike me as too difficult, given where we are, but truly amazing in terms of public health protection buy-in by the population. It also allows me to back calculate what would have happened if we had no vaccines at this point, a very plausible outcome had the University of Oxford and BioNTech teams not hit the jackpot. And it's around 1,000 death a day, making some assumptions about the faster transmission of Delta and we were in a strict lockdown again. Personally I think AZ should be opened up again to younger people again, for those that want it.

Originally Posted by adrianlondon (Post 33329892)

I've also just read that the Labour govt's position is that the UK should move every Amber country to Red (nice colour for that party) and hence only have Green and Red lists.