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Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion

Old Oct 21, 15, 8:13 am
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good morning Seat 2D!

without looking, I will attempt to pick off #18 with Braniff (I wouldn't be surprised if there are two or three more)

edit: just remembered seeing a Kalitta Air 747-200F at LAX recently ...

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Old Oct 21, 15, 9:29 am
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Originally Posted by jrl767 View Post
18. Can you name an airline named after its founder that also operated 747s?

Without looking, I will attempt to pick off #18 with Braniff (I wouldn't be surprised if there are two or three more)

edit: I just remembered seeing a Kalitta Air 747-200F at LAX recently ...

Right on, J! I rather liked the idea of a question that has multiple answers and as such I suspect there are a couple more airlines as well. I can think of at least one more, so far...

Sorry I missed you in Baltimore last night. We got in pretty late!
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Old Oct 21, 15, 9:43 am
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Sorry I missed you in Baltimore last night. ...
yeah, we were off by 24 hrs ... I had to be back in the office in DC yesterday, otherwise we could have caught up over coffee near Gate C2 this morning (as I would have disembarked from the jet you're currently on) ... next Fri @SEA looks good; I will probably be arriving ~1330

#18, founders' 747s, Round 2: Wardair (Canada)
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Old Oct 21, 15, 10:15 am
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Originally Posted by jrl767 View Post
18. Can you name an airline named after its founder that also operated 747s?

Wardair (Canada)

Good call. J! I hadn't thought of that one. Any more out there?


Next Fri @SEA looks good; I will probably be arriving ~1330

I will likely be up in the U-District at 1330 but could easily use the bus to get to downtown (Pyramid or Pike's) or Burien (Elliott Bay Brew Pub) by 1400/1430.

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Old Oct 21, 15, 10:48 am
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Good Morning All!

And a fine morning it is while cruising high above West Virginia enroute to Los Angeles with onward connections to Las Vegas. Here in seat 2D I’m working on my second cup of coffee while awaiting breakfast that today will include a fruit plate and a Denver Omelet. What better time than to post some new questions for the OTAQ&D. Indeed, this may be the very first time questions have ever been posted from the troposphere.

I chatted recently with jlemon and the immediate future looks good for more questions as we both have put together enough to get us through Thanksgiving – albeit at a somewhat more leisurely pace than has been the case in the past. I’ve been on the road since late September traveling through every corner of the continental United States as well as many points in the middle. I am posting my questions now as jlemon has a busy schedule over the next couple of weeks including a concert with Mark Knopfler up in Atlanta. I just finished three straight nights in three different locales with the Dark Star Orchestra and am now headed for the wilds of the Mojave National Preserve. I will however be back in Alaska by tomorrow night and so there shouldn’t be too much lag time in responding to your answers.

Though most all of you are smart enough to answer or at least give an educated guess to all of these questions in one fell swoop, please limit your responses to just two – at most three - questions at a time so that others may also have a reasonable chance of participating. Relying upon memory as opposed to a quick and easy internet search will very likely prolong this set of questions and may even enhance subsequent discussions. Thank You!


1. This North American airline was a popular clothier's failed attempt at a discount airline. It was pitched at the outset by a well known comedian but ultimately flew for only three months. Identify the airline and - if you're up to it - the comedian who pitched the airline. A N S W E R E D

2. This airline was the world’s largest operator of Convair 990s A N S W E R E D

3. What was the first non-British airline to buy the VC10? A N S W E R E D

4. It’s the spring of 2003 and you’re taxiing out to the runway at Orlando International Airport when you look out your window and spy an MD80 wearing the old National Airlines “Sun King” logo on its tail. Which airline would have been operating this MD80? A N S W E R E D

5. What is the oldest, continuously operating airline in the Americas? A N S W E R E D

6. What was the first local service airline in the U.S. to operate turboprops? A N S W E R E D

7. What airline became the world’s first to offer regularly scheduled routes around the world?

8. What was the first airline to operate trans-Atlantic services between England and New York from a city other than London? Identify the airline and the English city flown from. A N S W E R E D

9. In 1953, this airline commenced the first non-stop eastbound scheduled transcontinental service in the US between Los Angeles and New York. Identify the airline and the aircraft. A N S W E R E D

10. What was the first African airline to offer commercial service to China? A N S W E R E D

11. What the first US airline to order and operate a British built airliner? A N S W E R E D

12. What was the world’s first airline to operate a passenger jet with a flight deck designed for just two crew?

13. This British airline renamed itself after the aircraft type it acquired in 1964. Name the airline and - by extension – the aircraft.

14. This airline launched the first ever scheduled jet flight to take place entirely within the Arctic Circle. Identify the airline, aircraft and route.

15. What was the first airline to operate a 747 on a US domestic flight? What route was it? A N S W E R E D

16. What was the first airline in England to operate the 727? What was unique about this airline’s 727-100? A N S W E R E D

17. What was the first airline to challenge the Eastern Air Shuttle with inexpensive hourly flights connecting New York’s LaGuardia airport with Boston and Washington-Reagan National? A N S W E R E D

18. Can you name an airline named after its founder that also operated 747s? IN PLAY Braniff, Wardair, Ansett, Martinair, Khalifa and cargo operator Kalitta have been identified so far. Any more out there?

19. So far, Hawaii hasn’t seen many flights utilizing narrow bodied Airbus aircraft. What is the first airline to fly the Airbus A321 to Honolulu?

20. In 1969, Mexico’s largest airline claimed to fly from more US gateways to Mexico than any other airline. Can you identify the airline and all of its US gateways? (More than 5 – less than 10)

21. If you wanted to fly out of New York JFK aboard this airline’s “Sunjet” in January of 1970, it could have been one of two different types of aircraft. Identify the airline and the two aircraft types.

22. In a 1969 ad, this U.S. airline claimed “In Economy Class we give you:

• Steak broiled right on the plane instead of airline steak pre-cooked on the ground
• Travel slippers to slip your tired feet into
• A soft furry lap robe to stay cozy under, instead of a rough blanket
• A big fluffy pillow to rest your head on instead of the usual mini-airline pillow
• And a special compartment built right into our aircraft for ladies to hang their furs and store their wig boxes

Name the airline! A N S W E R E D

23. In 1968, if you were enjoying “Royal Canadian” service to Vancouver, which airline would you be flying upon?

24. In early 1968 this airline inaugurated service from Tucson to La Paz, Mexico. The flight continued on to Mazatlan. Identify the airline and the aircraft used. A N S W E R E D

25. So far as I know (now there’s a qualifier for you!) this was the only airline to operate Boeing 727-100 and 727-200 combi aircraft designed for passengers and freight. Can you identify it? (And any others - if you can... A N S W E R E D

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Old Oct 21, 15, 11:08 am
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A View Post
2. This airline was the world’s largest operator of Convair 990s.
2- I'm guessing (again without looking up anything) that this q was actually inspired by the recent exchanges with our esteemed colleague WHBM about the sadly decrepit Coronado at Palma, Majorca ... Spanish charter operator Spantax
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2. This airline was the world’s largest operator of Convair 990s
I'll say American, who had 20 of them. Spantax was the largest operator for the latter part of their service, but they didn't have 20 overall.

6. What was the first local service airline in the U.S. to operate turboprops?
I'll say West Coast, with the Fairchild F-27 in 1958. Fairchild actually beat the Fokker F-27, from which it was derived, into service.

18. Can you name an airline named after its founder that also operated 747s?
Well it certainly wasn't Richard Branson's airline, was it ...
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Originally Posted by Seat 2A View Post

24. In early 1968 this airline inaugurated service from Tucson to La Paz, Mexico. The flight continued on to Mazatlan. Identify the airline and the aircraft used.

25. So far as I know (now there’s a qualifier for you!) this was the only airline to operate Boeing 727-100 and 727-200 combi aircraft designed for passengers and freight. Can you identify it? (And any others - if you can...
Good evening from Houston.

And the good news is I head home for Louisiana tomorrow!

Then my lady and I will head to Atlanta on Friday from LFT via a quick Delta Connection flight for the Mark Knopfler concert this Saturday evening and shall also have the opportunity to visit with her family and our friends.

24. I'll guess this was Bonanza Air Lines operating a DC-9-10 "Funjet". If so, I believe the flight also continued on from Mazatlan to Puerto Vallarta.

25. First Air a.k.a Bradley Air Services Ltd. operating both types primarily in Canada....although the carrier did operate a Boeing 727 combi in scheduled service at one point between Ottawa and Boston.
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Old Oct 22, 15, 12:16 am
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#18 Ansett Australia (leased 747 from SQ)
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Old Oct 22, 15, 1:53 am
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18. Can you name an airline named after its founder that also operated 747s?
Martinair of the Netherlands.
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Old Oct 22, 15, 1:05 pm
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2. This airline was the world’s largest operator of Convair 990s.

Per jrl767: I'm guessing (again without looking up anything) that this question was actually inspired by the recent exchanges with our esteemed colleague WHBM about the sadly decrepit Coronado at Palma, Majorca ... Spanish charter operator Spantax

Per WHBM: I'll say American, who had 20 of them. Spantax was the largest operator for the latter part of their service, but they didn't have 20 overall.

The [url=https://www.flightglobal.com/pdfarchive/view/1979/1979%20-%202843.html]information I was referencing indicated it was Spantax but given WHBM's explanation, I suppose one could that depending upon how you view the question, you're both correct.

BTW, I apologize for the delay in responding to these. I shut down my laptop about an hour before landing and spent last night in the desert where there was of course no internet access. I did get to see a desert tortoise though! They're smaller than I had thought!
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6. What was the first local service airline in the U.S. to operate turboprops?

I'll say West Coast, with the Fairchild F-27 in 1958. Fairchild actually beat the Fokker F-27, from which it was derived, into service.

Spot on, WHBM! West Coast inaugurated F27 service on September 28, 1958 - nearly two months before the first Fokker built variant which entered service with Aer Lingus.
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24. In early 1968 this airline inaugurated service from Tucson to La Paz, Mexico. The flight continued on to Mazatlan. Identify the airline and the aircraft used.

I'll guess this was Bonanza Air Lines operating a DC-9-10 "Funjet". If so, I believe the flight also continued on from Mazatlan to Puerto Vallarta.

Correct on all counts! Shortly afterwards, the Bonanza brand passed into history as the airline merged with Pacific Airlines and West Coast Airlines to for Air West.

25. So far as I know (now there’s a qualifier for you!) this was the only airline to operate Boeing 727-100 and 727-200 combi aircraft designed for passengers and freight. Can you identify it? (And any others - if you can...

25. First Air a.k.a Bradley Air Services Ltd. operating both types primarily in Canada....although the carrier did operate a Boeing 727 combi in scheduled service at one point between Ottawa and Boston.

Right on, JL! Any other operators of both 727 combi variants out there?
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Old Oct 22, 15, 1:33 pm
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18. Can you name an airline named after its founder that also operated 747s?

Per VH-RMD: #18 Ansett Australia (leased 747 from SQ)

Per WHBM: Martinair of the Netherlands

Well done to both of you! Reg Ansett I knew about. Martin Schröder I'd forgotten. His might be the only 747 operator named after one's first name.
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Old Oct 22, 15, 2:57 pm
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18. Can you name an airline named after its founder that also operated 747s? IN PLAY Braniff, Wardair, Ansett, Martinair and cargo operator Kalitta have been identified so far. Any more out there?
Quick bonus question on this one. Can you name an airline named after it's founder's daughter that also operated 747s ?
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