Old Timer's Airline Quiz and Discussion.
Apr 2, 2024, 5:40 pm
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According to their website, Aleutian Airways operates Saab 2000 service between Anchorage and Cold Bay, Dutch Harbor, Homer, King Salmon and Sand Point. The Aleutian Airways motto is "The strongest link in the chain" referring, of course, to the Aleutian island chain. Here are a couple of photos of their Saab 2000 aircraft....
https://www.airliners.net/photo/Aleu...2000/7459137/L
https://www.airliners.net/photo/Aleu...2000/6863531/L
And it has been reported that Aleutian Airways is indeed operating Saab 2000 aircraft formerly operated by PenAir (a.k.a. Peninsula Airways).
BTW, here's an article from FLYING magazine concerning the accident experienced by PenAir with a Saab 2000 at the Unalaska Airport which serves Dutch Harbor.....
https://www.flyingmag.com/despite-ch...unway-overrun/
Apr 3, 2024, 8:41 am
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9. Which airline was the launch customer for the Boeing 727, and what was the aircraft's maiden flight route?
I know Eastern was the launch customer for the 727 in 1963, but I'm not so sure on the route. I know it wasn't between New York and Miami, so ah'mon throw a dart in the dark here and go with Boston to Atlanta
I know Eastern was the launch customer for the 727 in 1963, but I'm not so sure on the route. I know it wasn't between New York and Miami, so ah'mon throw a dart in the dark here and go with Boston to Atlanta
9- I’m going to weigh in with a technicality here
Eastern was the first to introduce the 727 into revenue service, but United was the “launch customer” in that they were the first to order and the first to take delivery; they also eventually received the first production jet (tabulation number E0001, tail number N7001U)
Eastern was the first to introduce the 727 into revenue service, but United was the “launch customer” in that they were the first to order and the first to take delivery; they also eventually received the first production jet (tabulation number E0001, tail number N7001U)
The launch customer for the Boeing 727 was United Airlines. The maiden flight of the Boeing 727 occurred on February 9, 1963, operated by Eastern Air Lines, flying from Miami to Washington, D.C.
Apr 3, 2024, 8:48 am
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Originally posted in #29096
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3. During World War II, this airline played a significant role in ferrying military aircraft and personnel. What was the name of the airline, and which routes did it operate during this period?
5. The "Golden Age of Aviation" is often associated with a period between the two World Wars. Name two famous aircraft from this era and the airlines that operated them.
6. What was the significance of the 1930 Air Mail Act in the United States, and how did it impact the development of commercial aviation?
8. In the 1980s, this airline made headlines by becoming the launch customer for a groundbreaking aircraft known for its advanced composite materials and efficient design. Name the airline and the aircraft.
10. What was the first commercial aircraft to be entirely computer-designed, and which airline was the launch customer for this aircraft?
The desired answer is not the 777 or the Mercure (Dassault). It was a few years behind the latter.
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3. During World War II, this airline played a significant role in ferrying military aircraft and personnel. What was the name of the airline, and which routes did it operate during this period?
5. The "Golden Age of Aviation" is often associated with a period between the two World Wars. Name two famous aircraft from this era and the airlines that operated them.
6. What was the significance of the 1930 Air Mail Act in the United States, and how did it impact the development of commercial aviation?
8. In the 1980s, this airline made headlines by becoming the launch customer for a groundbreaking aircraft known for its advanced composite materials and efficient design. Name the airline and the aircraft.
10. What was the first commercial aircraft to be entirely computer-designed, and which airline was the launch customer for this aircraft?
The desired answer is not the 777 or the Mercure (Dassault). It was a few years behind the latter.
Apr 3, 2024, 8:57 am
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BTW, here's an article from FLYING magazine concerning the accident experienced by PenAir with a Saab 2000 at the Unalaska Airport which serves Dutch Harbor.....
https://www.flyingmag.com/despite-ch...unway-overrun/
https://www.flyingmag.com/despite-ch...unway-overrun/
I walked away from a broken airplane not far from the place where that Saab ended up. In my case it was in a Penair Grumman Goose flying from Akutan (took off on the water, landed on wheels.) We got caught in a williwaw coming down Ballyhoo Mountain (next to the runway) and smacked hard into the ground. One of the Goose's gear struts snapped and we ground looped a couple of times before coming to a tilted halt. Nobody hurt, but some clothes changes required. It's a nasty airport.
Apr 3, 2024, 10:53 am
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And to consider that Alaska Airlines served DUT with 737-200 Combi aircraft for a number of years, apparently not ever experiencing a major mishap concerning its jet operations into this interesting little airfield....
I've never flown in there but it must have been interesting being in the back of 737.
Apr 4, 2024, 10:59 am
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we went to a local craft brewery on Tues evening to check out a new Thai food truck
the little red tag on the left edge of the menu board says “Old Timers Certified … This is a great beer!” — and it was 🍺
the little red tag on the left edge of the menu board says “Old Timers Certified … This is a great beer!” — and it was 🍺
Apr 7, 2024, 12:30 am
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5. The "Golden Age of Aviation" is often associated with a period between the two World Wars. Name two famous aircraft from this era and the airlines that operated them.
Well, the DC-3 comes to mind first and foremost. All kinds of airlines operated the DC-3
Another might be the Boeing 307, the first pressurized airliner. Pan Am and TWA come to mind as notable operators
As a bonus, I'll toss in the Boeing 247 - a variety of operators, notably United
On a personal note, as a child of the jet age, my "Golden Age of Aviation" came between 1960 and 1985. Lots of new aircraft types entering service, and an emphasis on quality inflight service and comfort until deregulation changed the focus somewhat...
Well, the DC-3 comes to mind first and foremost. All kinds of airlines operated the DC-3
Another might be the Boeing 307, the first pressurized airliner. Pan Am and TWA come to mind as notable operators
As a bonus, I'll toss in the Boeing 247 - a variety of operators, notably United
On a personal note, as a child of the jet age, my "Golden Age of Aviation" came between 1960 and 1985. Lots of new aircraft types entering service, and an emphasis on quality inflight service and comfort until deregulation changed the focus somewhat...
Apr 7, 2024, 7:22 am
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eight of the 10 were written off in accidents; the final resting place of the only intact Stratoliner is at the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center of the National Air and Space Museum near IAD
I’ll also offer the Ford TriMotor (Transcontinental and Western, Pan Am, Dominicana de Aviacion, many others) and Fokker F.VII (TWA, Pan Am, KLM, Swissair, many others) as early examples of airliners in this era
and a host of classic types, most of which have reappeared in this memory-jogging thread a goodly number of times, being retired from service
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5. The "Golden Age of Aviation" is often associated with a period between the two World Wars. Name two famous aircraft from this era and the airlines that operated them.
Well, the DC-3 comes to mind first and foremost. All kinds of airlines operated the DC-3
Another might be the Boeing 307, the first pressurized airliner. Pan Am and TWA come to mind as notable operators
As a bonus, I'll toss in the Boeing 247 - a variety of operators, notably United
On a personal note, as a child of the jet age, my "Golden Age of Aviation" came between 1960 and 1985. Lots of new aircraft types entering service, and an emphasis on quality inflight service and comfort until deregulation changed the focus somewhat...
Well, the DC-3 comes to mind first and foremost. All kinds of airlines operated the DC-3
Another might be the Boeing 307, the first pressurized airliner. Pan Am and TWA come to mind as notable operators
As a bonus, I'll toss in the Boeing 247 - a variety of operators, notably United
On a personal note, as a child of the jet age, my "Golden Age of Aviation" came between 1960 and 1985. Lots of new aircraft types entering service, and an emphasis on quality inflight service and comfort until deregulation changed the focus somewhat...
they were in fact the only original operators, as the total production run was a mere 10 aircraft; as is typical, they sported various other liveries of operators around the world in their later years
eight of the 10 were written off in accidents; the final resting place of the only intact Stratoliner is at the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center of the National Air and Space Museum near IAD
I’ll also offer the Ford TriMotor (Transcontinental and Western, Pan Am, Dominicana de Aviacion, many others) and Fokker F.VII (TWA, Pan Am, KLM, Swissair, many others) as early examples of airliners in this era
and a host of classic types, most of which have reappeared in this memory-jogging thread a goodly number of times, being retired from service
eight of the 10 were written off in accidents; the final resting place of the only intact Stratoliner is at the Steven F. Udvar-Hazy Center of the National Air and Space Museum near IAD
I’ll also offer the Ford TriMotor (Transcontinental and Western, Pan Am, Dominicana de Aviacion, many others) and Fokker F.VII (TWA, Pan Am, KLM, Swissair, many others) as early examples of airliners in this era
and a host of classic types, most of which have reappeared in this memory-jogging thread a goodly number of times, being retired from service
Incidentally, the Boeing 247 and Douglas DC-3 were my questioner's two preferred answers, and it also tossed out the Boeing 307 as an acceptable answer. So, you guys are correct.
Apr 9, 2024, 12:07 am
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The A300 was the intended correct answer! In my previous hints, I was tempted to say that the Mercure was on the right track for more reasons than being released during the desired decade.
After learning about this answer from the bot a few weeks ago, I took in a few articles and videos about the A300 (I forgot to save links, unfortunately, but there is no shortage of material out there) program and was quite impressed. I previously didn't have such a strong appreciation of the evolutionary role the A300 played in all other planes introduced by Airbus since the 70s. I did like the Mercure answer because it definitely came first (and "earliest" was the objective), but if we take impact into account, it's no contest IMO.
I'm curious to hear if any of you have different thoughts.
After learning about this answer from the bot a few weeks ago, I took in a few articles and videos about the A300 (I forgot to save links, unfortunately, but there is no shortage of material out there) program and was quite impressed. I previously didn't have such a strong appreciation of the evolutionary role the A300 played in all other planes introduced by Airbus since the 70s. I did like the Mercure answer because it definitely came first (and "earliest" was the objective), but if we take impact into account, it's no contest IMO.
I'm curious to hear if any of you have different thoughts.
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Last 3 from that set...
Originally posted in #29096
Most recent update before trimming #29113
If any of these have already been introduced into play and I've overlooked them, please let me know.
3. During World War II, this airline played a significant role in ferrying military aircraft and personnel. What was the name of the airline, and which routes did it operate during this period?
6. What was the significance of the 1930 Air Mail Act in the United States, and how did it impact the development of commercial aviation?
8. In the 1980s, this airline made headlines by becoming the launch customer for a groundbreaking aircraft known for its advanced composite materials and efficient design. Name the airline and the aircraft.
Most recent update before trimming #29113
If any of these have already been introduced into play and I've overlooked them, please let me know.
3. During World War II, this airline played a significant role in ferrying military aircraft and personnel. What was the name of the airline, and which routes did it operate during this period?
6. What was the significance of the 1930 Air Mail Act in the United States, and how did it impact the development of commercial aviation?
8. In the 1980s, this airline made headlines by becoming the launch customer for a groundbreaking aircraft known for its advanced composite materials and efficient design. Name the airline and the aircraft.
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8. In the 1980s, this airline made headlines by becoming the launch customer for a groundbreaking aircraft known for its advanced composite materials and efficient design. Name the airline and the aircraft.
This sounds like United and the 777. I don't know exactly when the order was placed, but given the 1995 introduction into revenue service with not one but three introductory flights by UA, the timing seems right.
This sounds like United and the 777. I don't know exactly when the order was placed, but given the 1995 introduction into revenue service with not one but three introductory flights by UA, the timing seems right.