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lnz Aug 19, 2014 2:23 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 23382997)
There are plenty of single-connect options on that route, so there is no logical reason for the Engine to build unnecessary connections.

If a particular routing is desired, you can use the [Via] option or search segment-by-segment.

Thanks for your reply.

Regarding logical reason: All but one of the single-connect options have very long layover times of 4h+. There is only one option with an ok layover time but that does not fit my travel time needs.

Regarding the [Via] option: I can only enter one connection point, so that does not help me to search for two stop connections.

Is there a way to force KVS to build more connections?
Can I enter more than one connection point in the [Via] option?

dkerr Aug 19, 2014 6:49 am


Originally Posted by JIMCHI (Post 23386260)
Hoping to book an F or C award on CX from LAX-HKG in the future. There are several methods of seeing award availability on KVS, with Awards JL supposedly being the best. But I will be using AAdvantage miles to book the award. Which of the various methods is most likely to show up on AA's res system when I call them to reserve? I don't want to get into an argument about what JL or other systems show. If Awards-OneWorld shows availability in the class I want, is it pretty much assured that AA agents will see that same availability? From what res system does Awards-OneWorld drive?

There is never a guarantee that what one airline sees as available award space will exactly match what another sees. However in my experience what AA agents can see has always matched what JL shows for CX awards. Most others have reported similar results. One that you certainly can not rely on is CX's own website that will show better availability for their own asiamiles members than what is made available to OneWorld partners.

DAK

dechil Aug 20, 2014 12:17 pm

Fare/PSH
 
Fare/PSH does not work, one more time
Why?
Is it due to the POS (ie RU)
Have you other POS for Fare research in America?
Of course others things work (availability etc..)
http://gallery.flyertalk.com/gallery...0_20_22_16.png

KVS Aug 20, 2014 2:53 pm


Originally Posted by Flyiboy (Post 23386874)
Flight AA 57 on 27 Aug 2014 LHR-MIA
Seat 3a 4a....

AA appears to be using non-standard seat blocking indicators in the C Cabin -- please use the [Enhanced Seat Map] option in the main KVS Tool application:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.2/Diamond - Enhanced Seat Map: 27 Aug 2014/AA 57/LHR-MIA/77W/Business]
Code:

    A  |  D  |  G  |  J   
 3  -      +      +      -   
 4  -      +      +      -   
 5  -      -      -      +   
 6  -      +      +      -   
 7  +      -      -      -   
 8  +      -      -      +   
 9  +      +      +      +   
10  +      +      +      +   
11  +      +      +      +   
12  +      +      +      +   
13  +      +      +      +   
14  +      +      +      +   
15  -      +      +      +   

[+] Available    [P] Preferred  [G] Galley
[-] Unavailable  [X] Blocked    [|] Aisle


KVS Aug 20, 2014 2:55 pm


Originally Posted by dechil (Post 23395735)
Fare/PSH does not work, one more time
Why?

The [Fares/PSH] Method continues to function normally.

Please see http://Errors.KVSTool.com/ for troubleshooting tips.

KVS Aug 20, 2014 7:16 pm


Originally Posted by JIMCHI (Post 23386260)
Hoping to book an F or C award on CX from LAX-HKG in the future. There are several methods of seeing award availability on KVS, with Awards JL supposedly being the best. But I will be using AAdvantage miles to book the award. Which of the various methods is most likely to show up on AA's res system when I call them to reserve? I don't want to get into an argument about what JL or other systems show. If Awards-OneWorld shows availability in the class I want, is it pretty much assured that AA agents will see that same availability? From what res system does Awards-OneWorld drive?

As noted in the KVS Tool User Guide at http://Help.KVSTool.com/#CX:
"[Awards/JL-OneWorld] Method is the most authoritative for OneWorld partner redemptions on CX."
If [Awards/JL-OneWorld] shows Award Seats available, then they can, most definitely, be booked via AADV.

KVS Aug 20, 2014 7:23 pm


Originally Posted by lnz (Post 23386971)
Thanks for your reply.

Regarding logical reason: All but one of the single-connect options have very long layover times of 4h+. There is only one option with an ok layover time but that does not fit my travel time needs.

Regarding the [Via] option: I can only enter one connection point, so that does not help me to search for two stop connections.

Is there a way to force KVS to build more connections?
Can I enter more than one connection point in the [Via] option?

You can force 2-conection options by specifying the departure time (e.g. 15:00) and/or Carrier:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.4.2/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]
Code:

GOT  Gothenburg Metro / Landvetter SE = GOT GSE [ESGG]
LNZ  Linz Hoersching AT [LOWL]
THU  28 Aug 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------------------------
LH        817    GOT  14:30    FRA  16:15    32A      J9 C9 D8 Z9 P8 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0
 -> LH/CL  1256    FRA  20:30    LNZ  21:35    E90      J5 C5 D5 Z5 P5 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H0 Q0 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0
LH        819    GOT  19:10    FRA  20:55    733      J9 C9 D0 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q0 V9 W9 S9 T0 L0 K0
 -> LH/CL  1250    FRA  08:55 +1  LNZ  10:00 +1  CR7      J8 C7 D6 Z7 P5 Y5 B4 M3 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
SK/LH      3685    GOT  19:10    FRA  20:55    733      C9 D0 Z0 J0 E9 M9 H9 Q0 V0 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0
 -> SK/##  8534    FRA  08:55 +1  LNZ  10:00 +1  CR7      C9 D4 Z0 J4 E0 M0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0
SK        439    GOT  15:30    CPH  16:20    319      C9 D9 Z9 J9 Y9 S9 P0 A0 E9 M0 H0 Q0 V9 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0 G9 B0
 -> SK    1635    CPH  18:05    FRA  19:40    321      C9 D9 Z9 J9 Y9 S0 P0 A0 E9 M9 H0 Q0 V9 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0 G9 B0
 -> SK/##  8548    FRA  20:30    LNZ  21:35    E90      C4 D4 Z0 J4 E9 M9 H0 Q0 V0 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0
LH/SK      6181    GOT  15:30    CPH  16:20    319      J4 C4 D4 Z4 P4 Y4 B4 M0 U0 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
 -> LH/SK  6225    CPH  18:05    FRA  19:40    321      J4 C4 D4 Z0 P0 Y4 B0 M4 U4 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
 -> LH/CL  1256    FRA  20:30    LNZ  21:35    E90      J5 C5 D5 Z5 P5 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H0 Q0 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0
OS/SK      7504    GOT  15:30    CPH  16:20    319      J4 C4 D4 Z4 P4 Y4 B4 M4 U? H0 G0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 E0
 -> OS/VO  304    CPH  17:50    VIE  19:35    100      J8 C8 D8 Z7 P0 Y9 B9 M9 U? H5 G1 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 E0 L0 K0
 -> OS/VO  961    VIE  20:20    LNZ  20:55    DH4      J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U? H9 G9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 E0 L0 K0
SK        439    GOT  15:30    CPH  16:20    319      C9 D9 Z9 J9 Y9 S9 P0 A0 E9 M0 H0 Q0 V9 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0 G9 B0
 -> OS/VO  304    CPH  17:50    VIE  19:35    100      J8 C8 D8 Z7 P0 Y9 B9 M9 U? H5 G1 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 E0 L0 K0
 -> OS/VO  961    VIE  20:20    LNZ  20:55    DH4      J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U? H9 G9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 E0 L0 K0
OS/SK      7502    GOT  18:35    CPH  19:25    319      J4 C4 D4 Z4 P4 Y4 B4 M4 U? H0 G0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 E0
 -> OS/VO  306    CPH  20:05    VIE  21:50    320      J4 C4 D3 Z3 P0 Y9 B9 M9 U? H9 G9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T0 E0 L0 K0
 -> OS/2W  957    VIE  22:20    LNZ  23:00    D38      J1 C1 D1 Z1 P1 Y9 B9 M9 U? H9 G9 Q9 V9 W9 S8 T8 E0 L0 K0
LH        817    GOT  14:30    FRA  16:15    32A      J9 C9 D8 Z9 P8 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0
 -> LH    84      FRA  17:45    DUS  18:35    32A      J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0
 -> LH/##  6434    DUS  20:00    LNZ  21:25    DH4      J6 C5 D5 Z5 P5 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0
LH        817    GOT  14:30    FRA  16:15    32A      J9 C9 D8 Z9 P8 Y9 B9 M9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0
 -> OS/VO  132    FRA  17:50    VIE  19:20    320      J8 C8 D7 Z0 P0 Y9 B9 M7 U? H4 G4 Q2 V0 W0 S0 T0 E0 L0 K0
 -> OS/VO  961    VIE  20:20    LNZ  20:55    DH4      J9 C9 D9 Z9 P9 Y9 B9 M9 U? H9 G9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 E0 L0 K0
SK/WF      3091    GOT  14:55    OSL  15:55    DH3      C9 D9 Z9 J9 Y2 S0 P0 A0 E9 M9 H9 Q9 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0 V9 B0
 -> SK    4757    OSL  16:40    FRA  18:45    738      C9 D9 Z9 J9 Y9 S0 P0 A0 E9 M9 H0 Q0 V9 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0 G9 B0
 -> SK/##  8548    FRA  20:30    LNZ  21:35    E90      C4 D4 Z0 J4 E9 M9 H0 Q0 V0 W0 U0 K0 L0 T0 O0


lnz Aug 21, 2014 12:49 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 23397809)
You can force 2-conection options by specifying the departure time (e.g. 15:00) and/or Carrier:

Thanks ^

lingua101 Aug 21, 2014 2:08 am

I notice that KVS only display the first 10-12 records of the result. For busy route which has more than 12 flights a day, how do I see the next result (after the 10-12 records)

dechil Aug 21, 2014 4:14 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 23396695)
The [Fares/PSH] Method continues to function normally.

Please see http://Errors.KVSTool.com/ for troubleshooting tips.

I have no connection problem, I am just asking why it works so bad, very long response or no response as the image shows. Can you answer about the POS, RU ? Thanks

lnz Aug 21, 2014 4:55 am


Originally Posted by lingua101 (Post 23398881)
I notice that KVS only display the first 10-12 records of the result. For busy route which has more than 12 flights a day, how do I see the next result (after the 10-12 records)

Same solution as for my issue with looking for 2 stop connections: Specify a time of departure and do multiple searches for e.g. morning, afternoon and evening flights.

Flyiboy Aug 21, 2014 5:59 am

I paid for a DIAMOND level membership and rec'd a temporary registration #. All went well until the temporary # expired. Never rec'd the current #. It has been almost a week now..It also seems that every time that I try to request a new one it takes me to a new BLANK page and then the computer shuts down. I know that that KVS doesn't really work that well with APPLE computers, its seems like you have to pay for another subscription to "CROSSOVER" in order to use KVS but this is making me quite :mad::mad:

Any suggestions ?
Flyiboy

Ps
Thanks for the help with my earlier post about SeatMaps

dagaetch Aug 21, 2014 10:24 am


Originally Posted by Flyiboy (Post 23399457)
I paid for a DIAMOND level membership and rec'd a temporary registration #. All went well until the temporary # expired. Never rec'd the current #. It has been almost a week now..It also seems that every time that I try to request a new one it takes me to a new BLANK page and then the computer shuts down. I know that that KVS doesn't really work that well with APPLE computers, its seems like you have to pay for another subscription to "CROSSOVER" in order to use KVS but this is making me quite :mad::mad:

Any suggestions ?
Flyiboy

Ps
Thanks for the help with my earlier post about SeatMaps

my registration code email was flagged as spam by gmail; check to see?

golfmad Aug 21, 2014 10:28 am


Originally Posted by dagaetch (Post 23400776)
my registration code email was flagged as spam by gmail; check to see?

+1. So was mine. The temp code got through but the real one (which arrived minutes later) was caught as spam.

Flyiboy Aug 21, 2014 10:34 am

I made sure that KVS was added to the inbox.. Checked "Spam" .. Nothing


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