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Originally Posted by epigram (Post 23134714)

18 Oct GOT-SIN H class

Could you please also clarify what Availability are you seeing via the KVS Tool and what Availability did the airline advise when you called?

Kvs tool 0
Airline said I could book the 3 seats I needed

KVS Staff seats availability

I am wonderinf if its possible to see the staff listed for a particular flight using the KVS seat availability tool.

Thank You.

Quote:

Originally Posted by epigram (Post 23134714)

18 Oct GOT-SIN H class

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Originally Posted by epigram (Post 23135290)

Airline said I could book the 3 seats I needed

Looks like a Segment Marriage or a POS issue:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Factors

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.9/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]

Code:

GOT  Gothenburg Metro / Landvetter SE = GOT GSE [ESGG]

IST  Istanbul Metro / Ataturk TR = IST SAW [LTBA]

SAT  18 Oct 2014



Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability

---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------------------------

TK         1798    GOT   12:20     IST   16:40     739      C9 D9 K9 J9 I9 R9 Y9 B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L1 V0 P0 W0 X2 N0 G0

SK/TK      3415    GOT   12:20     IST   16:40     739      C9 J9 Y9 E9 M9 H9 Q9 W9 U9 K4 L4 T4

TK         1800    GOT   17:45     IST   22:05     738      C6 D5 K5 J4 I3 R2 Y9 B9 M9 H9 S9 E9 Q9 T9 L9 V9 P9 W9 X9 N9 G0

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.9/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]

Code:

IST  Istanbul Metro / Ataturk TR = IST SAW [LTBA]

SIN  Singapore Changi SG [WSSS]

SAT  18 Oct 2014



Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability

---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  --------------------------------------------------------------

TK         66      IST   00:40     SIN   16:25     330      C9 D0 K0 J0 I0 R0 Y9 B9 M9 H9 S0 E0 Q0 T0 L0 V0 P0 W0 X4 N0 G0

SQ/TK      6266    IST   00:40     SIN   16:25     330      Z0 C0 J0 D0 Y4 B4 E4 M4 H4 W4 Q0 N0 V0 T0

SQ         391     IST   13:30     SIN   05:00 +1  772      Z9 C8 J0 D0 U0 S9 Y9 B9 E0 M0 H0 W0 Q0 N0 V0 T0 G0 L0 K0

TK/SQ      7900    IST   13:30     SIN   05:00 +1  772      C4 D4 K4 J4 Y0 B0 M0 H0 S0 E0 Q0 T0 L0 V0 P0 W0

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Originally Posted by KVS (Post 23011342)

you can still access Pricing, Fare Rules & Routing Rules for SU Fares by manually entering the Fare Basis Code.

Hi, how to do that? I don't see any input field named 'Fare Basis Code'.

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Originally Posted by kaaa (Post 23139286)

Hi, how to do that? I don't see any input field named 'Fare Basis Code'.

Welcome to [posting on] FT!

Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#RTW

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Originally Posted by KVS (Post 23137732)

Looks like a Segment Marriage or a POS issue:

Thanks for the explanation. Wish the airlines didn't do this. Makes the hunt so much more difficult.

update: seems like ITA or a travel agent is able to see the availability as well. 3 of us are booked in D. managed to switch 2 of us to K. last passenger left in D. obsessively checked KVS but both D and K zeroed out. only C available. run a saved search on ITA and it priced it in K class. KVS still said zero. called travel agent (airline closed on weekend) and agent managed to snare K.

Hmm, I'm seeing (or rather, er, not seeing) a lot of missing results for a Star Alliance KIX-LAX search.

Specifically, UA's site shows C availability for Asiana and Eva. But KVS isn't showing any matched availability (just cases in which one segment on NH or UA shows C available, the matching segment does not)

This is for the following search:
- Awards/StarAlliance
- KIX-LAX
- 1 Apr 2015
- Airlines: *A all
- POS: JP-ANA-STD
- 2 seats
- No filter

What am I doin' wrong here?

Thanks!

Edited to add:
Hmm, I tried Awards/AC-StarAlliance for Apr 2, and -- while I now see NH & OZ -- BR (Eva Air) is still missing, despite showing saver-seats available via united.com. :\
And... hmm... maybe BR stands for "Broken." BR doesn't show up under Timetable for KIX-LAX either unless I search for it specifically vs. All Airlines. Strange!

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Originally Posted by ThatAdamGuy (Post 23149241)

This is not the most logical routing, so you need to search Segment-By-Segment or specify a desired connecting point using the [Via] option:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.9/Diamond - Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]

Code:

KIX  Osaka Kansai Intl JP [RJBB]

TPE  Taipei Metro / Taiwan Taoyuan Intl TW = TPE TSA [RCTP]

LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]

WED  01 Apr 2015 | 2 Seats



Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability

---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------

BR         131     KIX   13:10     TPE   15:05     332  0   FS/  CS+  YS-

 -> BR     12      TPE   18:40     LAX   15:20     77W  0   FS/  CS-  YS+

BR         131     KIX   13:10     TPE   15:05     332  0   FS/  CS+  YS-

 -> BR     2       TPE   19:20     LAX   16:10     77W  0   FS/  CS+  YS-

BR         129     KIX   18:35     TPE   20:30     321  0   FS/  CS+  YS-

 -> BR     16      TPE   23:55     LAX   20:45     77W  0   FS/  CS+  YS+

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.9/Diamond - Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]

Code:

KIX  Osaka Kansai Intl JP [RJBB]

TPE  Taipei Metro / Taiwan Taoyuan Intl TW = TPE TSA [RCTP]

LAX  Los Angeles Intl CA US [KLAX]

THU  02 Apr 2015 | 2 Seats



Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability

---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------

BR         131     KIX   13:10     TPE   15:05     332  0   FS/  CS+  YS-

 -> BR     12      TPE   18:40     LAX   15:20     77W  0   FS/  CS+  YS+

BR         131     KIX   13:10     TPE   15:05     332  0   FS/  CS+  YS-

 -> BR     2       TPE   19:20     LAX   16:10     77W  0   FS/  CS+  YS+

BR         129     KIX   18:35     TPE   20:30     321  0   FS/  CS+  YS-

 -> BR     16      TPE   23:55     LAX   20:45     77W  0   FS/  CS+  YS+

Ah, okay, interesting. It shows up as an option in united.com, so I didn't think it was too crazy. Appreciate the quick and helpful info!

Any thoughts of offering lifelong membership?

KVS Tool and fare purchase

I signed up for the KVS Availability Tool a couple of days ago and have been able to use it to identify some good fares. However, my version of KVS does not appear to have the functionality to actually purchase/book a particular fare of interest, or direct one to where that fare can be purchased (I am not interested in an award ticket at this time). Am I missing something? Is the KVS Availability Tool simply for information only?

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Originally Posted by hokiebearflyer (Post 23155383)

Is the KVS Availability Tool simply for information only?

Right. You have to book through another source.

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Originally Posted by sfolawyer (Post 23155540)

Right. You have to book through another source.

Thanks, sfolawyer. For an award ticket, that is easy; simply call the airline and guide the agent with information from KVS. If the goal is to purchase a ticket however, KVS gives info on best fares etc., which is great, but how to then purchase those fares? The airline's ticketing agent won't be able to see/find those fares. Do we have to, on our own, start visiting one travel website (Expedia, Orbitz...) after another, to try and find where KVS got that fare? Since KVS is getting that particular fare from somewhere, it seems reasonable that KVS would direct the user to where that particular fare is being extracted, no?

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Originally Posted by hokiebearflyer (Post 23155715)

Do we have to, on our own, start visiting one travel website (Expedia, Orbitz...) after another, to try and find where KVS got that fare? Since KVS is getting that particular fare from somewhere, it seems reasonable that KVS would direct the user to where that particular fare is being extracted, no?

KVS obscures the source of its fare information but offers a "Find Flights Using This Fare [ITA]" option if you double/right-click the fare you like. This will direct you to ITA's Matrix site, where you can hopefully find some flights you like with the fare in question. Then take that info and put it into your favorite booking/search engine to find and purchase the flights online.