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Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga
(Post 23814290)
Why is this (only) availability search function not integrated into the tool?
Originally Posted by Air Rarotonga
(Post 23816049)
KVS is a company / organisation that does not find it necessary to inform it's paying customers nor respond on their inputs and questions in this thread here!
We also provide answers to questions from KVS Tool Members regarding the Tool's functionality in this thread. However, if you believe we missed a question, please let us know. |
Originally Posted by KVS
(Post 23820413)
if you believe we missed a question, please let us know.
Originally Posted by nux
(Post 23815898)
Is KVS a registered company in any country and/or does it have a registered address?
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Originally Posted by IMH
(Post 23821026)
Sure:
Originally Posted by KVS
(Post 23820413)
We also provide answers to questions from KVS Tool Members regarding the Tool's functionality in this thread.
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Recently receive this email from KVS.
Hi seawolf, We would like to draw your attention to the User Agreement that you have accepted when you have installed the KVS Tool on your machine. Unfortunately, some of your recent actions violate the terms of the said User Agreement. We hope that such violations were unintentional and, if so, would ask that you take the appropriate corrective actions. We look forward to your reply. DEFINITION OF THE TOOL The Tool constitutes a specialized web browser Software application, containing a set of pre-defined Bookmarks for a number of websites. All such websites (and the associated content) are believed to be available to the general public, or, where user-specific login credentials are required, to the individual users, who are the holders of such credentials. DISCLAIMER OF LIABILITY We specifically disclaim any liability (whether based in contract, tort, strict liability or otherwise) for any direct, indirect, incidental, consequential, or special damages arising out of or in any way connected with access to or use of this Software (even if we have been advised of the possibility of such damages), including, but not limited to, liability associated with any viruses which may infect a user's computer equipment. This Software and any information, which you may retrieve using it, is provided to you strictly on an "AS IS" and "AS AVAILABLE" basis, and without warranty of any kind either express or implied including, but not limited to, the implied warranties of merchantability and fitness for a particular purpose, title, non-infringement, security or accuracy. We do not endorse and are not responsible for the accuracy or reliability of any information retrieved using this Software. Under no circumstance will we be liable for any loss or damage, caused by a user's reliance on information or other content obtained through this Software. It is the responsibility of the user to evaluate the accuracy, completeness or usefulness of any information or other content retrieved using this Software. Please seek the advice of professionals, as appropriate, regarding the evaluation and interpretation of any specific information or other content. SOFTWARE RIGHTS & RESTRICTIONS We retain all right, title, and interest in and to this Software, and any rights not specifically granted to you are reserved. You may not reverse-engineer, disassemble, decompile, debug, or translate this Software, or otherwise attempt to derive the source code of this Software or any proprietary algorithms or data (including, but not limited to, Bookmarks), contained therein. |
Originally Posted by seawolf
(Post 23821621)
What exactly have I violated?
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Originally Posted by KVS
(Post 23821922)
The part that you have, yourself, highlighted is the relevant one.
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Originally Posted by seawolf
(Post 23822187)
And specifically what did I do/when did I do this?
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Hello KVS tool team.
I've been having problems with VS and BA methods lately. (started about a week ago). Error codes are the same 12057:Gopher- attribute not found . Tried switching default browser, but it didn't help. Running latest 7.7.0 Do you have any suggestions how to fix that? |
Originally Posted by KVS
(Post 23822304)
Specific examples can be found in Posts #7247 & #7207.
7247:
Originally Posted by seawolf
(Post 23792521)
To be fair, according to Fiddler, I do believe KVS is sending a KVS specific user agent when I used it to monitor traffic to British Airways.
Originally Posted by seawolf
(Post 23786179)
No skills required. Just install Fiddler.
Now that KVS has reveal their questionable business model, I've changed all my FFP login/passwords. Who knows if they get routed to KVS servers or not especially since reverse engineering the program is against their ToS. I have a legitimate GTC account and no way I'm putting those credentials into KVS. I'm disappointed in KVS' recent actions, and their further response to questions. Of course they never told users to abuse a institution's lack of security, they just provided "hints". :rolleyes: KVS is certainly a useful tool, and I actually didn't even use availability (ExpertFlyer for that). But even though the award searching seems to be fine, I don't expect to be renewing (which, unfortunately, won't be until September 2015). I'll lose some of the convenience, but I don't feel that KVS is worth supporting for now. |
Originally Posted by DennisSFO
(Post 23822465)
Hello KVS tool team.
I've been having problems with VS and BA methods lately. (started about a week ago). Error codes are the same 12057:Gopher- attribute not found . Tried switching default browser, but it didn't help. Running latest 7.7.0 Do you have any suggestions how to fix that? |
Since Fiddler is breaking the licence agreement for the KVS scraper tool, perhaps I can be of assistance and provide (most of) the URL strings in the KVS binary. Since I've never paid for KVS I've never accepted any licence agreement. Perhaps this could be useful for anyone seeking to determine whether they're breaking the Ts&Cs of any site they're scraping:
Code:
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConline/en/OverrideServlet |
I was also accused of breaking the user agreement, with no evidence.
I was asked to provide source of all (yes, all) of my posts. I provided an example of public information and I was told this was not good as that public information could have been obtained with a violation of the user agreement. Now I have been provided specific posts that are in violation of the user agreement. I have agreed to provide the specific example of the public information for each post to provide evidence my post was based on public information. It is very arrogant and ignorant to assume KVS is the only software/person capable of scraping a website. |
Originally Posted by angatol
(Post 23822877)
Since Fiddler is breaking the licence agreement for the KVS scraper tool, perhaps I can be of assistance and provide (most of) the URL strings in the KVS binary. Since I've never paid for KVS I've never accepted any licence agreement. Perhaps this could be useful for anyone seeking to determine whether they're breaking the Ts&Cs of any site they're scraping:
Code:
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConline/en/OverrideServlet |
Originally Posted by zozeppelin
(Post 23811983)
The question was for the moderators because you have a demonstrated a habit of avoiding answering the questions, even with very specific. I look forward to their response.
Good example, you address this post by myself (directed at the moderators) but ignore the preceding post questioning functionality of your product (which had a direct question to yourself). Please avoid these specific questions: 1) Does KVS Tool have the authorization of Amadeus through the use of wftc2.e-travel.com to provide schedule information? 2) Prove instructions to replicate access to schedule information with any other web browser [don't worry, I know you can't, because real web browsers have no method to generatre the http post commands required to provide the information as Amadeus provides no linked access to that server] 3) Define Web Scraper [hint: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_scraping] The irony of this post is that KVS took the time to read the post so he could accuse me of violating the user agreement but didn't take time to answer the questions. And the source for this known prior art: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trave...-schedule.html http://wftc2.e-travel.com/plnext/AIE...HE&LANGUAGE=GB |
Originally Posted by zozeppelin
(Post 23798765)
Yep, it's garbage. At first I thought it was validating (enforcing adv purchase, min/max duration, fare class availability) but I've ruled that out.
Next mole up? _____ Corrections: I messed up assuming rubles but is dinari - fares seem ok. Does not appear to be validating fares. As you mention you can send the additional query to get the fare basis. Why this isn't done automatically is interesting, maybe a web browser has limitations? Appears the routing rules is now not going to KVS but to [redacted], which ironically also isn't working. Links showing publicly available prior art: http://www.mereli.com/ |
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