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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
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http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:

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http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:

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http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:

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http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
...
3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:

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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

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https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
...
9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:

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https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
...
D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
...
Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
...
L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
...
You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

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https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
...
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:

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http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.

https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

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http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
...
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
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http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
2. Your Conduct

The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

You may not otherwise modify, disassemble, create derivative works, distribute, reproduce, publicly display, perform, transmit, re-transmit, sell, rent, sublicense, or otherwise use any materials or content on this Site for commercial or non-commercial exploitation by yourself or the organization or entity to which you are attached or permit third parties to so do. Without limitation, unlimited or wholesale reproduction, copying of the content for commercial or non-commercial purposes and unwarranted modification of data and information within the content is not permitted, and any use of these materials on any other website or networked computer environment for any purpose without IATA’s prior written consent is prohibited.
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4. Intellectual Property Rights

...You must not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer any software IATA discloses to you via this Site, and you must not remove, overprint, or deface any notice of copyright, trademark, logo, legend, or other notice of ownership from any originals or copies of software or information from the website. "IATA Trademarks" means all names, marks, brands, URL names or addresses, logos, designs, trade dress and other designations IATA uses in connection with Products or Services. You are not permitted to incorporate any IATA Trademarks into any other trademarks, service marks, company names, Internet addresses, domain names, or any other similar designations. Any unauthorized use of any materials contained on this website may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.

http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
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http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
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http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
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http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
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http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
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http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
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http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
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Mar 10, 2012 | 6:13 pm

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Join Date: Sep 2000

Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

Programs: Aeroplan SE AND 1MM, HHonors Gold, Marriott Bonvoy Platinum , L'Accor Platinum

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The DotRes method does not work for me, as implied by your KVS tool web site.

The ATP method does not work for me, at least for any route (between Canada and either New Zealand or Australia) dealing with Air New Zealand - I get the message that "no matching fares found"

The Galileo method does find the routing rules for economy fares; when I try business class fares, I get the message "no fare in system".

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Originally Posted by KVS

The Routing Rules for NZ Fares on the YOW-PER are shown below:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Routing Rules: YOW-PER/NZ/Z3CA/14873 USD]

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YOWPER-NZ 01APR12      *RULE DISPLAY*     TARIFF 0003 RULE 4011 
* ADD APPLICABLE TAX * FED INSP FEES *                          
   -FARE BASIS         CAD       NUC                PTC  FT  GI 
Z3CA            R  14668.00  14454.64               ADT  EX  PA 
Z3CACH          R  14668.00  14454.64               CNN  EX  PA 
Z3CAINF         R   1467.00   1445.66               INF  EX  PA 
Z3CA            R  14668.00  14454.64               INS  EX  PA 
Z3CA            R  14668.00  14454.64               UNN  EX  PA 
BOOKING CODES        Z                                          
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - BX - BUSINESS CLASS EXCURSION              
MPM - PA 13899 VIA PACIFIC
---------------------------------------------------------------

CONSTRUCTED ROUTING - SPECIFIED 229              DEST ADD 15    
             FROM-TO  YOW-AA-CHI-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL         
                      -AKL-PER*                                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-AA-CHI-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL         
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC      
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YMQ-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX         
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-PER*                     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YMQ-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX         
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG      
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YMQ-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/      
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*                       
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YMQ-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/      
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG        
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AA-BOS/STL-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/       
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                        
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AA-BOS/STL-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/       
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG         
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AA-CHI-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA      
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                             
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AA-CHI-AA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA      
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN      
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*             
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/       
                      UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/       
                      UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG      
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA      
                      -LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-PER*                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA      
                      -LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL      
                      -WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL      
                      -PER*                                     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/     
                      UA/AC/UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-AC-YYC-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/     
                      UA/AC/UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL      
                      -WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL      
                      -PER*                                     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-CO-CLE/HOU-CO-SFO/LAX-NZ/      
                      UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-CO-CLE/HOU-CO-SFO/LAX-NZ/      
                      UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG      
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL      
                      -AKL-PER*                                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL      
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC      
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL      
                      -PER*                                     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL      
                      -ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/     
                      ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*                      
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL      
                      -AKL-PER*                                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL      
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC      
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-UA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/     
                      HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                           
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-UA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/     
                      HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/       
                      NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*          
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-AKL-PER*             
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/     
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG       
                      -AKL-PER*                                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA      
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                             
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA      
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN      
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*             
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-AS-SEA-AS-SFO/       
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*              
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-AS-SEA-AS-SFO/       
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/      
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG       
                      -AKL-PER*                                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX         
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-PER*                     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX         
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG      
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/UA       
                      -SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*                         
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/UA       
                      -SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/     
                      NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*          
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-UA-SFO-UA-LAX        
                      -NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-UA-SFO-UA-LAX        
                      -NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL      
                      -WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL      
                      -PER*                                     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-US-LAS-US-SFO/       
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*              
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-US-LAS-US-SFO/       
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/      
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG       
                      -AKL-PER*                                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-US-PHX-US-SFO/       
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*              
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-US-PHX-US-SFO/       
                      LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/      
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG       
                      -AKL-PER*                                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-AKL-PER*             
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC-YVR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/     
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG       
                      -AKL-PER*                                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/      
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*                       
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/      
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG        
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-CHI-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/       
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                        
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-CHI-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/       
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG         
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-DEN-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/       
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                        
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-DEN-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/       
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG         
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-WAS-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/       
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                        
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-UA-WAS-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/       
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG         
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-US-LAS-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/       
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                        
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-US-LAS-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/       
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG         
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-US-PHL-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/       
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                        
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YTO-US-PHL-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/       
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG         
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR       
                      -AKL-PER*                                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR       
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC      
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/UA-SFO/HNL         
                      -AKL-PER*                                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/UA-SFO/HNL         
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC      
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA      
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                             
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA      
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN      
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*             
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX         
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-PER*                     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA-LAX         
                      -NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG      
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/      
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-PER*                       
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-NZ/AC/AC-YVR-NZ/AC/UA/AC/      
                      UA-SFO/HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG        
                      -BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*     
             FROM-TO  YOW-AC-YYC-US-LAS-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/       
                      CO/HA-HNL-AKL-PER*                        
             FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL         
                      -AKL-PER*                                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL         
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC      
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL         
                      -PER*                                     
             FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-LAX-NAN/PPT/RAR-AKL         
                      -ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/     
                      ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*                      
             FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL         
                      -AKL-PER*                                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-NZ/UA/CO/HA-HNL         
                      -AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC      
                      -DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-UA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA      
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                             
             FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-UA-LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA      
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN      
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*             
             FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-AKL-PER*                
             FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/        
                      NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN-CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG       
                      -AKL-PER*                                 
             FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA         
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                             
             FROM-TO  YOW-CO-EWR-CO-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA         
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN      
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*             
             FROM-TO  YOW-UA-CHI-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA         
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                             
             FROM-TO  YOW-UA-CHI-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA         
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN      
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*             
             FROM-TO  YOW-UA-WAS-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA         
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                             
             FROM-TO  YOW-UA-WAS-UA-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA         
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN      
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*             
             FROM-TO  YOW-US-PHL-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA         
                      -HNL-AKL-PER*                             
             FROM-TO  YOW-US-PHL-US-SFO/LAX-NZ/UA/CO/HA         
                      -HNL-AKL-ROT/TUO/NPE/NPL-WLG-BHE/NSN      
                      -CHC-DUD/ZQN-CHC/WLG-AKL-PER*

For RTW and other special Circle Fares, please use the [Sabre: DotRes] Method:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]

Code:

YOW  Ottawa Intl ON CA [CYOW]
RTW  01 Jun 2012 | 15 Jun 2012 | Economy

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
AC         YOW     YOW      4289   USD                      YRWSPCL
AC         YOW     YOW      6231   USD                      YRWSTAR1
AC         YOW     YOW      7256   USD                      YRWSTAR2
AC         YOW     YOW      8374   USD                      YRWSTAR3

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]

Code:

YOW  Ottawa Intl ON CA [CYOW]
RTW  01 Jun 2012 | 15 Jun 2012 | Economy

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
BA         YOW     YOW      3504   USD                      LCIRAT17
BA         YOW     YOW      3703   USD                      LONE3
BA         YOW     YOW      3803   USD                      LGLOB26
BA         YOW     YOW      3804   USD                      LCIR22
BA         YOW     YOW      4004   USD                      LCIRAT21
BA         YOW     YOW      4505   USD                      LCIR26
BA         YOW     YOW      4605   USD                      LCIRAT25
BA         YOW     YOW      5006   USD                      LCIR29SA
BA         YOW     YOW      5305   USD                      LONE4
BA         YOW     YOW      5405   USD                      LGLOB29
BA         YOW     YOW      6106   USD                      LONE5
BA         YOW     YOW      6206   USD                      LGLOB34
BA         YOW     YOW      7107   USD                      LONE6
BA         YOW     YOW      7207   USD                      LGLOB39

Mar 11, 2012 | 6:48 pm

#4907

cbourl

Join Date: Aug 2007

Location: Australia

Programs: LHSen UA1K VAGold QFSilv HHon Diamond ShangrilaJade Radisson Gold SPG Gold Marriott Gold Hertz Presi

Posts: 1,050

Hi Is the Co-UA Upgrade tool no longer working?
ITA - Upgrades/Rewards UA
I get a Datasource Error R1 United Airlines Site Source Error

Mar 11, 2012 | 7:27 pm

#4908

KVS

Original Poster

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII

The DotRes method does not work for me, as implied by your KVS tool web site.

Which Route(s)/Cabin Class(es) are you searching for?

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII

The ATP method does not work for me, at least for any route (between Canada and either New Zealand or Australia) dealing with Air New Zealand - I get the message that "no matching fares found"

The [Fares/FC] Engine appears to be experiencing issues with NZ Fares on that route (Fares on other carriers are accessible). Please use the [Fares/PSH] Method instead:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Galileo: Fares/PSH/RU]

Code:

YOW  Ottawa Intl ON CA [CYOW]
AKL  Auckland Intl NZ [NZAA]
R/T  01 Apr 2012 | Business

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur   AdvanceP  Min  Max  Fare Basis | Travel Period
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ---  --------------------------
NZ         YOW     AKL      7730   USD    50 Days    5   90  JN1C
NZ         YOW     AKL      8240   USD    21 Days       360  JN2C
NZ         YOW     AKL      8750   USD    21 Days       360  ZN1C
NZ         YOW     AKL      9056   USD        ***       360  J3C
NZ         YOW     AKL      9566   USD        ***       360  Z3C
NZ         YOW     AKL     10586   USD        ***       360  D3C
NZ         YOW     AKL     11773   USD        ***       360  J3COW
NZ         YOW     AKL     12436   USD        ***       360  Z3COW
NZ         YOW     AKL     12830   USD        ***       360  C3C
NZ         YOW     AKL     13762   USD        ***       360  D3COW
NZ         YOW     AKL     16679   USD        ***       360  C3COW

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII

The Galileo method does find the routing rules for economy fares; when I try business class fares, I get the message "no fare in system".

What is City Pair/Fare Basis in question?

Mar 11, 2012 | 7:28 pm

#4909

KVS

Original Poster

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbourl

Hi Is the Co-UA Upgrade tool no longer working?
ITA - Upgrades/Rewards UA
I get a Datasource Error R1 United Airlines Site Source Error

The [Awards-Upgrades/UA] Method continues to function normally -- are you running the latest KVS Tool Version?

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - ITA: Awards-Upgrades/UA]

Code:

NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
LON  London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY QQS QQW ZLS ZEP
SUN  01 Apr 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UA         18      EWR   09:00     LHR   21:20     752      J6 JN6 C5 D4 Z4 ZN4 P4 PN4 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G0 N0 XN9 X9
UA         110     EWR   18:25     LHR   06:45 +1  752      J9 JN9 C8 D6 Z6 ZN6 P6 PN6 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
UA         28      EWR   19:35     LHR   07:40 +1  772      J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R3 RN3 IN2 I2 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
UA         8       EWR   21:10     LHR   09:25 +1  752      J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R1 RN1 IN1 I1 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
UA         114     EWR   22:05     LHR   10:15 +1  752      J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R1 RN1 IN1 I1 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
UA         36      EWR   20:05     EDI   07:55 +1  752      J3 JN3 C3 D0 Z0 ZN0 P0 PN0 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
 -> UA/BD  7702    EDI   09:05 +1  LHR   10:35 +1  320      J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y7 B7 M7 E0 U7 H0 Q0 V0 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0
UA/XE      5716    JFK   06:00     IAD   07:22     CR2      Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G2 N2 XN9 X5
 -> UA     922     IAD   09:29     LHR   21:55     763      F4 FN4 A2 ON0 O0 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G2 N2 XN9 X5
UA/XE      5719    LGA   06:00     IAD   07:24     CR2      Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
 -> UA     922     IAD   09:29     LHR   21:55     763      F4 FN4 A2 ON0 O0 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G9 N9 XN9 X9
UA/XE      4640    EWR   06:15     IAD   07:36     EM4      Y4 YN4 B4 M4 E3 U2 H2 HN2 Q2 V1 W1 S1 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA     922     IAD   09:29     LHR   21:55     763      F4 FN4 A2 ON0 O0 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y4 YN4 B4 M4 E3 U2 H2 HN2 Q2 V1 W1 S1 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA/XE      4678    EWR   15:43     IAD   17:05     EM4      Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H2 HN2 Q2 V1 W1 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA     918     IAD   17:59     LHR   06:20 +1  772      F5 FN5 A3 ON1 O0 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R4 RN4 IN2 I2 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H2 HN2 Q2 V1 W1 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA/XE      5714    JFK   18:59     IAD   20:22     CR2      Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA     924     IAD   21:52     LHR   10:10 +1  772      F5 FN5 A5 ON1 O1 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R3 RN3 IN1 I1 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA/S5      3517    LGA   19:30     IAD   20:56     E70      F4 A4 JN4 ZN3 P3 PN3 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G8 N8 XN9 X9
 -> UA     924     IAD   21:52     LHR   10:10 +1  772      F4 FN5 A4 ON1 O1 J9 JN4 C9 D9 Z9 ZN3 P3 PN3 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K9 G8 N8 XN9 X9
UA/XE      4672    EWR   19:48     IAD   21:10     EM4      Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T6 L6 K4 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA     924     IAD   21:52     LHR   10:10 +1  772      F5 FN5 A5 ON1 O1 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R3 RN3 IN1 I1 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T6 L6 K4 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA/S5      5133    EWR   17:05     YUL   18:43     E70      F6 A6 JN6 ZN6 P6 PN6 R6 RN6 IN6 I6 Y7 YN7 B3 M3 E2 U1 H1 HN1 Q1 V1 W1 S0 T0 L0 K0 G1 N1 XN2 X2
 -> UA/AC  8296    YUL   19:50     LHR   07:30 +1  333      J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y7 B7 M7 E7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 S7 T7 L7 K7 G0
UA/QK      8187    LGA   17:30     YUL   18:56     CRA      F4 A7 Y7 B7 M7 E7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 W0 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0
 -> UA/AC  8296    YUL   19:50     LHR   07:30 +1  333      J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y7 B7 M7 E7 U7 H7 Q7 V7 W7 S7 T7 L7 K7 G0

Mar 12, 2012 | 4:08 pm

#4910

poverty.jet.set

Join Date: Aug 2011

Location: SEA

Programs: UA Plat (former 1K)

Posts: 296

Why can't I find my UA fare?

I'm new to KVS.
I searched for Fares for YYZ-PVG using method "Sabre: Fares/DotRes" and POS of "US", UA inc. codeshare
Then I check Availability of L fare on dates (UA with no codeshare), looking each direction individually (finding Sep 12 and Oct 1 return)
Then I go to UA site and use those dates, pick the same flight numbers (via SFO out, ORD back), and the fare is L outbound and S return for a total of $1,491.80
Am I doing something wrong?
(side note: this was a few hours ago that I ran both KVS and UA searches; I'm just finding time to post now)
(update: I just ran it again now and got same results)

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]

Code:

YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
PVG  Shanghai PuDong CN [ZSPD]
R/T  12 Sep 2012 | 01 Oct 2012 | Economy

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
AC         YTO     SHA       652   USD                      E0LXCNT
AC         YTO     SHA       672   USD                      E0LWCNT
UA         YTO     SHA       835   USD                      LLX27DM2
UA         YTO     SHA       875   USD                      LLX47DM2
UA         YTO     SHA       885   USD                      LLE74BM1
UA         YTO     SHA       895   USD                      LLW27DM2
[removed the more expensive ones for brevity]

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]

Code:

YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
PVG  Shanghai PuDong CN [ZSPD]
WED  12 Sep 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
UA         547     YYZ   08:00     ORD   08:47     319      F4 A6 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K4 G4
 -> UA     835     ORD   10:23     PVG   13:55     777      F4 A4 J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K4 G0
UA         867     YYZ   07:00     SFO   09:41     319      F4 A5 J4 C4 D5 Z5 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K0 G0
 -> UA     857     SFO   13:26     PVG   17:25     744      F4 A4 J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K4 G0

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]

Code:

PVG  Shanghai PuDong CN [ZSPD]
YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
MON  01 Oct 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
UA         836     PVG   15:55     ORD   16:23     777      F4 A4 J4 C4 D4 Z4 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K0 G0
 -> UA     843     ORD   18:15     YYZ   20:59     319      F4 A6 Y4 B4 E4 M4 U4 H4 Q4 V4 W4 S4 T4 L4 K0 G0

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - DotRes: YTO-SHA/UA/LLX27DM2/835 USD]

Code:

[Rule Application & Other Conditions]
NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
PACIFIC ROUND TRIP ECONOMY SAVER FARES
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
BETWEEN AREA 1 AND AREA 3.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY/COACH/OFF PEAK COACH
CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
THIS RULE GOVERNS ROUND-TRIP FARES.
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/SINGLE OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS.

[Day/Time]
PERMITTED MON THROUGH THU ON EACH TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.

[Seasonality]
PERMITTED 25DEC THROUGH 06JUN OR 17AUG THROUGH 30NOV
ON THE OUTBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR. SEASON IS BASED
ON DATE OF ORIGIN.

[Flight Application]
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA
TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY CO.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN JAPAN AND
CHINA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY UA FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA
ANY CA FLIGHT OPERATED BY CA
ANY NH FLIGHT OPERATED BY NH.
AND
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY CO FLIGHT OPERATED BY UA.
AND
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL WITHIN UNITED
STATES
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY AC FLIGHT.

[Advance Reservations/Ticketing]
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT
LEAST 21 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 3 DAYS AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 21 DAYS BEFORE
DEPARTURE WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.

[Minimum Stay]
TRAVEL FROM INBOUND TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR MUST COMMENCE
NO EARLIER THAN 7 DAYS AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE OUTBOUND
TRANSPACIFIC SECTOR.

[Maximum Stay]
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
3 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

[Stopovers]
2 STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN EACH
DIRECTION AT USD 100.00 EACH
NONE IN GUAM
IN AREA 3
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.

[Transfers]
6 TRANSFERS PERMITTED IN EACH DIRECTION.
1 PERMITTED IN CANADA IN EACH DIRECTION
2 PERMITTED IN UNITED STATES IN EACH
DIRECTION
3 PERMITTED IN AREA 3 IN EACH DIRECTION.
FARE BREAK SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED AND EMBEDDED
SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON THE FARE COMPONENT.

[Blackout Dates]
INBOUND -
TRAVEL IS NOT PERMITTED 13JUL12 THROUGH 23AUG12 FOR
TRANSPACIFIC SECTORS.

[Surcharges]
FARE RULE
IF THE FARE COMPONENT INCLUDES TRAVEL BETWEEN SHA/BJS
AND TYO/OSA
THEN THAT TRAVEL MUST BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY CA FLIGHT
ANY NH FLIGHT.
MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 150.00 WILL BE
ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE PER ADULT,ALLOWING
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS.

GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
IF INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.
OR - CONTRACT BULK INFANT PSGR UNDER 2.
OR - MILITARY INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT UNDER 2.
OR - NEGOTIATED INFANT PSGR UNDER 2.
OR - INCLUSIVE TOUR INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.
THERE IS NO MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE PER
COUPON.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
SURCHARGES DO NOT APPLY TO INFANT PASSENGERS
NOT OCCUPYING A SEAT.
SECURITY SURCHARGE OF HKD 33 OR CAD 6.00 WILL BE ADDED
TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR DEPARTURE FROM/TO/VIA HONG
KONG SAR CHINA.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
THE SECURITY SURCHARGE WILL BE ASSESSED TO
EACH PASSENGER OF ANY AGE GROUP FOR EACH DEPARTURE
OUT OF HONG KONG INCLUDING THROUGH PASSENGERS WITH
STOPOVERS IN HONG KONG.
THE SECURITY SURCHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO -
1-PASSENGERS TRANSFERRING/TRANSITTING HONG KONG.
2-PASSENGERS TRAVELLING ON ID/AD TICKETS.
3-PASSENGERS HOLDING DIPLOMATIC PASSPORTS.
4-INFANTS.
THE SECURITY SURCHARGE MUST BE COLLECTED AT TIME
OF TICKET ISSUANCE AND WILL BE INCORPORATED IN THE
FARE CALCULATION AS A -Q- SURCHARGE BY CONVERTING
THE SURCHARGE INTO NUC USING THE APPLICABLE IATA
RATE OF EXCHANGE /IROE/.
THE APPLICABLE SECURITY SERVICE CHARGE IS SUBJECT
TO REFUND WHEN HONG KONG IS NO LONGER A DEPARTING
AND/OR STOPOVER POINT AS A RESULT OF CANCELLATION
OR REROUTING OF A TICKET.
AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 5.00 OR CAD
5.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
ARRIVAL FROM/TO/VIA TKK.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
APPLIES TO DISEMBARKATION SURCHARGE FOR ANY FARE
PAYING PASSENGER DISEMBARKING AT TRUK IN
MICRONESIA.
THIS SURCHARGE IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
THIS CHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO INFANTS UNDER 2
YEARS OF AGE.
AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 5.00 OR CAD
5.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
ARRIVAL FROM/TO/VIA YAP.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
APPLIES TO DISEMBARKATION SURCHARGE FOR ANY FARE
PAYING PASSENGER DISEMBARKING AT YAP IN THE
REPUBLIC OF THE MARSHALL ISLANDS.
THIS SURCHARGE IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.
THIS CHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO INFANTS UNDER 2
YEARS OF AGE.
AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 18.00 OR CAD
18.00 WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
DEPARTURE FROM/TO/VIA ROR.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
THE FACILITY SURCHARGE APPLIES EACH TIME TRAVEL
INVOLVES ENPLANEMENT AT KOROR-PALAU ON A UA FLIGHT
THIS FACILITY SURCHARGE WILL NOT APPLY TO
PASSENGERS WHO ARE TRAVELING ON ANY UA FREE TICKET
AND - MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF CAD 15.00 PER
DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
THE SURCHARGE IS A NAVIGATION SURCHARGE.
THE SURCHARGE APPLIES IN ADDITION TO ALL OTHER
CHARGES AND IS NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT.

[Sales Restrictions]
FARE RULE
TICKETS MAY BE ISSUED BY PTA.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
PTA CONSTITUTES TICKETING.

GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY DUE TO MEDICAL
REASONS PERMITTED UNDER GUIDELINES SET FORTH
BY CARRIER. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

[Penalties]
CANCELLATIONS

ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
--
A.  UA CUSTOMER COMMITMENT
--
CUSTOMERS WHO PURCHASE A TICKET FOR TRAVEL
ON UNITED VIA UA CHANNELS MAY CANCEL THEIR
RESERVATIONS/REFUND TICKET WITHOUT PENALTY
WITHIN 24HRS OF PURCHASE.
--
B.  EXCHANGE - CHANGE TO 1ST TICKETED FLIGHT /
WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET
--
FULL VALUE OF A WHOLLY UNUSED TICKET MAY BE
APPLIED TOWARDS PURCHASE OF A NEW TICKET PRICED
AT -CURRENT- EQUAL OR HIGHER FARE LEVELS UPON
PAYMENT OF CHANGE FEE CONTAINED WITHIN THIS
RULE AND ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE / TAXES /
FEES / SURCHARGES WILL BE APPLICABLE AT TIME
OF EXCHANGE.
--PROVIDED--
--ORIGINAL RESERVATIONS ARE CANCELED PRIOR TO
ORIGINALLY SCHEDULE FLIGHT ---  AND ---
RESERVATIONS FOR NEW ITINERARY ARE MADE AND
TICKETS REISSUED NO LATER THAN 1 YEAR FROM
DATE OF ISSUE ON ORIGINAL PURCHASED TICKET.
--
THE NON-REFUNDABLE CANCELLATION AMOUNT OF THE
TICKET BEING EXCHANGED REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE
AND CARRIED FORWARD IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX OF
THE NEW TICKET.
--
C. LOWER FARE INTRODUCED OR AVAILABLE IN MARKET
--
WHEN A LOWER FARE IS INTRODUCED INTO THE MARKET
OR A CURRENT FARE IS REDUCED / OR BECOMES
AVAILABLE / THE TICKETED PASSENGER MAY
QUALIFY FOR THE ABOVE.  ALL PROVISIONS OF THE
LOWER AIR FARE MUST BE MET BEFORE DEPARTURE.
NO CHANGE TO ORIGIN/DESTINATION/DATES/FLIGHTS.
ONLY BOOKING CODE CHANGE IS PERMITTED.
--
A SERVICE FEE EQUAL TO THE CHANGE FEE
WILL BE ASSESSED.  -- RESIDUAL VALUE /IF ANY /
WILL BE RETURNED TO THE ORIGINAL FORM OF
PAYMENT.
--
D.  EMERGENCY PROVISION
--
TICKET MAY BE USED TOWARD PURCHASE OF
ANOTHER TICKET DUE TO AN EMERGENCY OF
PASSENGER / IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER OR
TRAVELING COMPANION.
DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED.

CHANGES

ANY TIME
CHARGE CAD 250.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
WAIVED FOR SCHEDULE CHANGE.
NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
--
A.  CHANGE MADE TO OTHER THAN THE FIRST TICKETED
FLIGHT
--
TICKETS MUST BE REISSUED WHEN ANY VOLUNTARY
CHANGE IS MADE.  WHEN TICKETED RESERVAIONS
ARE CANCELLED PRIOR TO FLIGHT TIME - NEW
FLIGHTS MUST BE CONFIRMED AND TICKET REISSUED.
NO OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED.
--
IF CHANGES ARE MADE TO OTHER THAN THE FIRST
TICKETED FLIGHT THE FARE LEVELS IN EFFECT AT
TIME OF ORIGINAL TICKET ISSUE WILL APPLY
PROVIDED THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR
ALL THE PROVISIONS OF THE ORIGINALLY
TICKETED FARE FAMILY /
IGNORING ADVANCE RESERVATION OR TICKETING
REQUIREMENTS.
--IF THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR THE
ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE FAMILY / BUT RESULTS
IN A HIGHER FARE /
THE DIFFERENCE IN FARE AND THE CHANGE FEE
CONTAINED IN THIS RULE MUST BE COLLECTED
AT TIME OF CHANGE/REISSUE.
--IF THE NEW ITINERARY QUALIFIES FOR THE
ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE FAMILY / BUT RESULTS
IN A LOWER FARE /-- NO REFUND WILL BE MADE--.
-------FULL CHANGE FEE WILL APPLY-----
--
IF CHANGES BY THE PASSENGER NO LONGER QUALIFY
FOR THE ORIGINALLY TICKETED FARE / FULL VALUE
OF THE ORIGINAL TICKET MAY BE APPLIED TOWARDS
EQUAL OR HIGHER QUALIFYING FARE -
USING FARES IN EFFECT ON THE ORIGINAL
TICKETING DATE.
--
FARE IS RECALCULATED FROM POINT OF ORIGIN.
ANY DIFFERENCE IN FARE/TAXES/FEES/SURCHARGE
WILL BE APPLICABLE AT TIME OF CHANGE/REISSUE.
--
B.  EMERGENCY PROVISION
--
TICKET MAY BE USED TOWARD THE PURCHASE OF
ANOTHER TICKET DUE TO AN EMERGENCY OF
PASSENGER / IMMEDIATE FAMILY MEMBER OR
TRAVELING COMPANION.
DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED.

[Combinations]
END-ON-END PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS.
SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO RESTRICTIONS. TRAVEL
MUST BE VIA POINT OF COMBINATION.
OPEN JAWS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS
MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
PROVIDED -
WHEN THE OPEN SEGMENT OCCURS
-WITHIN AREA 1 OR WITHIN AREA 3 COMBINATIONS ARE
WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER UA/CO IN ANY RULE
FOR TRAVEL VIA THE PACIFIC.
ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
-TO FORM CIRCLE TRIPS
A MAXIMUM OF TWO INTERNATIONAL FARE COMPONENTS
PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER UA/CO
IN ANY RULE
FOR TRAVEL VIA THE PACIFIC.
NOTE - THE CITY PAIRS BELOW ARE CONSIDERED THE SAME
POINT -
NYC-EWR

[HIP/Mileage Exceptions]
NOTE -
ROUTING FARES ARE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HIP CHECKS

[Ticket Endorsement]
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- NONREF/0VALUEAFTDPT/CHGFEE - IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.

[Children Discounts]
FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 27JAN12 AND ON/BEFORE 03MAY12
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 04MAY12 AND ON/BEFORE 08JUL12
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 09JUL12 AND ON/BEFORE 07DEC12
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 08DEC12 AND ON/BEFORE 23DEC12
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 100 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
FOR TRAVEL ON/AFTER 24DEC12 AND ON/BEFORE 03MAY13
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - IN AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 75
PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKET DESIGNATOR - CH AND DISCOUNT
PERCENT.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 18 OR OLDER.
OR - UNN/UNACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 5-11 - CHARGE 100
PERCENT OF THE FARE.

[Eligibility]
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[Accompanied Travel]
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.

[Travel Restrictions]
NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[Tour Conductor Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR TOUR CONDUCTORS.

[Agent Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR SALE AGENTS.

[All Other Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.

[Miscellaneous Provisions]
NO PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Groups]
NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Tours]
NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Visit Another Country]
NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Deposits]
NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Voluntary Refunds]
CHECK CATEGORY 16 OR CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

Last edited by poverty.jet.set; Mar 12, 2012 at 4:15 pm Reason: clarified a point

Mar 12, 2012 | 4:22 pm

#4911

KVS

Original Poster

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by poverty.jet.set

I'm new to KVS.

Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Quote:

Originally Posted by poverty.jet.set

I searched for fares for YYZ-PVG using method "Sabre: Fares/DotRes" and POS of "US", UA inc. codeshare
Then I check availability of L fare on dates (UA with no codeshare), looking each direction individually (finding Sep 12 and Oct 1 return)
Then I go to UA site and use those dates, pick the same flight numbers (via SFO out, ORD back), and the fare is L outbound and S return for a total of $1,491.80
Am I doing something wrong?
(side note: this was a few hours ago that I ran both KVS and UA searches; I'm just finding time to post now)

You have done everything correctly.

This looks like a system connectivity issue -- if you use the [Awards-Upgrade/UA] Method to check Availability, you will see that it is showing L0 for your return flights:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - ITA: Awards-Upgrades/UA]

Code:

PVG  Shanghai PuDong CN [ZSPD]
YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
MON  01 Oct 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UA         836     PVG   15:55     ORD   16:23     772      F6 FN7 A6 ON4 O2 J9 JN8 C9 D9 Z9 ZN7 P7 PN7 R1 RN1 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA     843     ORD   18:15     YYZ   20:59     319      F6 A6 JN8 ZN7 P7 PN7 R1 RN1 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA         858     PVG   12:10     SFO   07:59     744      F6 FN8 A6 ON6 O5 J9 JN8 C9 D9 Z9 ZN6 P6 PN6 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T5 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA     526     SFO   13:04     YYZ   20:59     319      F6 A6 JN8 ZN6 P6 PN6 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T5 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA         858     PVG   12:10     SFO   07:59     744      F8 FN8 A8 ON6 O5 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA     972     SFO   10:06     ORD   16:20     763      F6 FN6 A1 ON0 O0 J9 JN8 C9 D9 Z9 ZN7 P7 PN7 R4 RN4 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S8 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA     843     ORD   18:15     YYZ   20:59     319      F6 A1 JN8 ZN7 P7 PN7 R4 RN4 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S8 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA         858     PVG   12:10     SFO   07:59     744      F8 FN8 A8 ON6 O5 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA     222     SFO   10:30     ORD   16:46     320      F8 A5 JN8 ZN5 P5 PN5 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T1 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA     843     ORD   18:15     YYZ   20:59     319      F8 A5 JN8 ZN5 P5 PN5 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T1 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
UA         858     PVG   12:10     SFO   07:59     744      F8 FN8 A8 ON6 O5 J9 JN9 C9 D9 Z9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA     906     SFO   11:06     ORD   17:16     752      F8 A8 JN9 ZN9 P9 PN9 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S0 T0 L0 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA     843     ORD   18:15     YYZ   20:59     319      F8 A7 JN8 ZN7 P7 PN7 R4 RN4 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L9 K0 G0 N0 XN1 X0

Mar 12, 2012 | 6:01 pm

#4912

poverty.jet.set

Join Date: Aug 2011

Location: SEA

Programs: UA Plat (former 1K)

Posts: 296

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

Welcome to the KVS Tool!

You have done everything correctly.

This looks like a system connectivity issue -- if you use the [Awards-Upgrade/UA] Method to check Availability, you will see that it is showing L0 for your return flights:

Can you please clarify:
- what do you mean by system connectivity issue? I tried the awards/upgrade search, and the return availability search again, and get different results?
- are you suggesting I should be using the Awards-Upgrade search instead of the Availability search, even though I'm looking for regular cash fares? Always, or under what circumstances?

thanks

Mar 12, 2012 | 6:44 pm

#4913

KVS

Original Poster

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by poverty.jet.set

Can you please clarify:
- what do you mean by system connectivity issue? I tried the awards/upgrade search, and the return availability search again, and get different results?

Occasionally, Availability can temporarily get out-of-sync in different systems, due to airline technology limitations and/or technical issues.

Quote:

Originally Posted by poverty.jet.set

- are you suggesting I should be using the Awards-Upgrade search instead of the Availability search, even though I'm looking for regular cash fares? Always, or under what circumstances?

As mentioned in the KVS Tool User Guide, the [Awards-Upgrades/UA] Method is also recommended for Regular Availability on UA flights: http://Help.KVSTool.com/#WhichMethod

Mar 12, 2012 | 9:11 pm

#4914

poverty.jet.set

Join Date: Aug 2011

Location: SEA

Programs: UA Plat (former 1K)

Posts: 296

Hmm.
So now I see L available for return on UA (2nd leg on Shuttle America dba United Express) but the fare on UA is $1354.80 - is that because of that Shuttle America hop?
I suppose the real question is how do I know if that farecode is even available on any days on United? (since L bucket availability could be one of serveral L-fare codes)
Even on an ITA Matrix search I'm not seeing under $1250
Sigh, I thought this would simplify things

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - ITA: Awards-Upgrades/UA]

Code:

PVG  Shanghai PuDong CN [ZSPD]
YYZ  Toronto Pearson Intl ON CA [CYYZ]
MON  01 Oct 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
UA         836     PVG   15:55     ORD   16:23     772      F5 FN7 A0 ON4 O2 J9 JN5 C9 D9 Z9 ZN0 P0 PN0 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L5 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0
 -> UA/S5  3483    ORD   21:00     YYZ   23:26     E70      F5 A0 JN5 ZN0 P0 PN0 R0 RN0 IN0 I0 Y9 YN9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 HN9 Q9 V9 W9 S9 T9 L5 K0 G0 N0 XN0 X0

Mar 12, 2012 | 9:43 pm

#4915

KVS

Original Poster

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by poverty.jet.set

So now I see L available for return on UA (2nd leg on Shuttle America dba United Express) but the fare on UA is $1354.80

That is correct: LLX27DM2 Base Fare ($835) + Fuel Surcharges ($370) + Other Surcharges ($30) + Taxes ($120) comes to a total of ~$1 355.

Mar 13, 2012 | 2:10 am

#4916

cbourl

Join Date: Aug 2007

Location: Australia

Programs: LHSen UA1K VAGold QFSilv HHon Diamond ShangrilaJade Radisson Gold SPG Gold Marriott Gold Hertz Presi

Posts: 1,050

hi yes im running the latest kvs tool

Mar 13, 2012 | 5:27 am

#4917

poverty.jet.set

Join Date: Aug 2011

Location: SEA

Programs: UA Plat (former 1K)

Posts: 296

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

That is correct: LLX27DM2 Base Fare ($835) + Fuel Surcharges ($370) + Other Surcharges ($30) + Taxes ($120) comes to a total of ~$1 355.

colour me stupid, but where are you getting that info, especially about the fuel surcharge?
I don't see anything about a fuel surcharge in the fare rules for the code (neither in KVS nor on UA when I make a dummy booking, including if I click on "View Rules and Restrictions" after selecting the flights).

OK wait, now I see it under "additional taxes/fees at the top of the UA trip while booking - though it says $1,237 + 117.80 in fees (yet fees list $372 in fuel surcharge, with a footnote of "some fees listed in originally quoted price").

Isn't the fuel surcharge normally mentioned in the fare rules? grr....

Mar 13, 2012 | 9:34 am

#4918

lxjenkins

Join Date: Sep 2004

Location: Maryland

Programs: DL Gold, Hyatt Diamond

Posts: 68

KVSTool and 4M

I know this has been touched on in the past - however, KVSTool is clearly showing 4M CS+ availability on the day I want to travel. Yet, when I contact BA to use Avios miles to purchase this award on 4M the agents (all 3 that I've spoken to) adamantly claim that there is no such availability. Is it possible that the KVSTool is wrong?