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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
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http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
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directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
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http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
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http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
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http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
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http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
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http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
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https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
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https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

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https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
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https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
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https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
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https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
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https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
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https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
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http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
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You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

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You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

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https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
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https://www.finnair.com
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https://www.flysas.com
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https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
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https://www.lot.com
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https://www.lufthansa.com
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http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.

https://www.routehappy.com/
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https://www.swiss.com
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https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
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https://www.tripple.jp
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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
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http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
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http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
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http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
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Mar 13, 2012 | 11:45 am

#4921

lxjenkins

Join Date: Sep 2004

Location: Maryland

Programs: DL Gold, Hyatt Diamond

Posts: 68

Quote:

Originally Posted by golfmad

What flight and date are you looking for?

Flight 4520
EZE - MIA (business class - 2 seats)
4 April, 2012

Mar 13, 2012 | 11:58 am

#4922

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by poverty.jet.set

colour me stupid, but where are you getting that info, especially about the fuel surcharge?
I don't see anything about a fuel surcharge in the fare rules for the code (neither in KVS nor on UA when I make a dummy booking, including if I click on "View Rules and Restrictions" after selecting the flights).

OK wait, now I see it under "additional taxes/fees at the top of the UA trip while booking - though it says $1,237 + 117.80 in fees (yet fees list $372 in fuel surcharge, with a footnote of "some fees listed in originally quoted price").

Isn't the fuel surcharge normally mentioned in the fare rules? grr....

You can only see the Other Surcharges via the Fare Rules. The [Fares/FC] Method can display both Fuel & Other Surcharges. Taxes can be calculated via the ITA option.

Mar 13, 2012 | 12:03 pm

#4923

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lxjenkins

Flight 4520
EZE - MIA (business class - 2 seats)
4 April, 2012

Those 2 C Award seats should be available. Be sure to ask for 4M specifically; if you just ask for "LAN", then the Agent will likely search for LA flights [only] (and won't find anything).

For other tips on dealing with Agents, please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#AgentSaysNo

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.6/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/OneWorld/AU-QFA-SP1]

Code:

EZE  Buenos Aires Ministro Pistarini BA AR [SAEZ]
MIA  Miami Intl FL US [KMIA]
WED  04 Apr 2012 | 2 Seats

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
4M         4520    EZE   22:45     MIA   07:15 +1       0   CS+

Mar 13, 2012 | 1:59 pm

#4924

cbourl

Join Date: Aug 2007

Location: Australia

Programs: LHSen UA1K VAGold QFSilv HHon Diamond ShangrilaJade Radisson Gold SPG Gold Marriott Gold Hertz Presi

Posts: 1,050

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

Please try clearing your MSIE Cookies & Cache. If the issue persists, please provide a screenshot via http://Contact.KVSTool.com/

Thanks very much - clearing the cache did the trick!^^

Mar 19, 2012 | 9:11 am

#4925

sparkzone

Join Date: Jan 2002

Location: ATL, GA, USA

Posts: 231

KVS,
having hard time finding CX seats, getting error with awards/jl-oneword. when using awards/cx, none showing. is cx not releasing seats in advance anymore. rumor flyin around maybe you can shed more info about cx awards. for me will be using AA miles

Mar 19, 2012 | 11:38 am

#4926

GEXPO

Join Date: Jun 2011

Location: FLL

Posts: 71

KVS, is there any way to set up alerts as to when there is availability for a certain (award) class?

Is it maybe in the works for a future release? (Was one of the main reasons I used Expert Flyer a while ago)

Mar 19, 2012 | 12:29 pm

#4927

justdmbobbo

Join Date: Dec 2009

Location: IND

Posts: 74

Can someone help or give me an tutorial on searching for award availability over multiple skyteam airlines/ DL/AF or DL/KLM?

Trying to look for availability from IND > SEZ

Mar 19, 2012 | 8:40 pm

#4928

KVS

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Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabrielexposito

KVS, is there any way to set up alerts as to when there is availability for a certain (award) class?

Not directly, but you can add the desired searches to [My Trips] in the KVS Tool and quickly re-check Award Availability at your convenience.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gabrielexposito

Is it maybe in the works for a future release? (Was one of the main reasons I used Expert Flyer a while ago)

Indeed, the Alerting functionality is already being considered.

Mar 19, 2012 | 8:47 pm

#4929

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by sparkzone

Both Methods continue to function normally and advance Award Availability looks reasonable as well. If the issue persists, please forward a screenshot via http://Contact.KVSTool.com/

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.7/Diamond - Axess: Awards/JL-OneWorld]

Code:

NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
THU  01 Nov 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
CX         845     JFK   01:20     HKG   05:30 +1  77W  0   FS0  CS4  YS0
CX         841     JFK   10:10     HKG   14:20 +1  77W  0   FS0  CS1  YS0
CX         831     JFK   14:55     HKG   19:00 +1  77W  0   FS1  CS3  YS0
CX         889     JFK   23:00     HKG   07:55 +2  77W  1   FS1  CS4  YS0
CX         889     JFK   23:00     YVR   01:55 +1  77W  0   FS0  CS1  YS1
 -> CX     837     YVR   14:35 +1  HKG   19:05 +2  744  0   FS0  CS1  YS1

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.7/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/CX]

Code:

NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
THU  01 Nov 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
CX         889     JFK   23:00     HKG   07:55 +2  77W  1   FS+  CS+  YS@
CX         845     JFK   01:20     HKG   05:30 +1  77W  0   FS@  CS+  YS@
CX         841     JFK   10:10     HKG   14:20 +1  77W  0   FS@  CS+  YS@
CX         831     JFK   14:55     HKG   19:00 +1  77W  0   FS+  CS+  YS+

Mar 19, 2012 | 8:55 pm

#4930

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by justdmbobbo

Can someone help or give me an tutorial on searching for award availability over multiple skyteam airlines/ DL/AF or DL/KLM?

Trying to look for availability from IND > SEZ

The only *S airline that serves SEZ is KQ.

You would need to search for IND-PAR/AMS via [Awards/DL-SkyTeam] and then for PAR/AMS-NBO & NBO-SEZ via the [Awards/SkyTeam] Method:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.7/Diamond - WSpan: Awards/DL-SkyTeam]

Code:

IND  Indianapolis Intl IN US [KIND]
CDG  Paris Charles De Gaulle FR [LFPG]
WED  31 Oct 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
DL         964     IND   15:27     MSP   16:16     319  0   FM+  YM+
 -> DL     220     MSP   17:15     CDG   08:00 +1  763  0   CM+  YM+
DL         1127    IND   12:50     ATL   14:31     M88  0   FM+  YM+
 -> DL     28      ATL   16:20     CDG   06:10 +1  763  0   CM+  YM+
DL         796     IND   10:40     ATL   12:18     M88  0   FM+  YM+
 -> DL     28      ATL   16:20     CDG   06:10 +1  763  0   CM+  YM+
DL/9E      3599    IND   11:50     MSP   12:44     CR9  0   FM+  YM+
 -> DL     220     MSP   17:15     CDG   08:00 +1  763  0   CM+  YM+
DL/9E      3426    IND   11:15     JFK   13:24     CR9  0   FM+
 -> DL     184     JFK   19:10     CDG   07:50 +1  763  0   CM+
DL         1759    IND   08:10     ATL   09:50     M88  0   FM+  YM+
 -> DL     28      ATL   16:20     CDG   06:10 +1  763  0   CM+  YM+
DL         650     IND   09:40     MSP   10:36     320  0   FM+  YM+
 -> DL     220     MSP   17:15     CDG   08:00 +1  763  0   CM+  YM+
DL         1575    IND   07:05     ATL   08:50     M88  0   FM+  YM+
 -> DL     28      ATL   16:20     CDG   06:10 +1  763  0   CM+  YM+
DL         960     IND   06:00     ATL   07:34     M88  0   FM+  YM+
 -> DL     28      ATL   16:20     CDG   06:10 +1  763  0   CM+  YM+
DL/9E      3343    IND   07:10     MSP   07:58     CR9  0   FM+  YM+
 -> DL     220     MSP   17:15     CDG   08:00 +1  763  0   CM+  YM+
DL         2281    IND   19:10     ATL   20:53     M88  0   FM+  YM+
 -> DL     28      ATL   16:20 +1  CDG   06:10 +2  763  0   CM+  YM+
DL         1534    IND   17:15     ATL   18:49     M88  0   FM+  YM+
 -> DL     28      ATL   16:20 +1  CDG   06:10 +2  763  0   CM+  YM+
DL/9E      4109    IND   13:00     DTW   14:19     CR9  0   FM+
 -> DL/OH  2997    DTW   15:20     CVG   16:41     CR9  0   FM+
 -> DL     44      CVG   18:40     CDG   08:00 +1  763  0   CM+
DL         862     IND   06:45     DTW   08:00     320  0   FM+
 -> DL/XE  5260    DTW   14:00     CVG   15:18     CR9  0   FM+
 -> DL     44      CVG   18:40     CDG   08:00 +1  763  0   CM+
DL         862     IND   06:45     DTW   08:00     320  0   FM+
 -> DL/OH  2997    DTW   15:20     CVG   16:41     CR9  0   FM+
 -> DL     44      CVG   18:40     CDG   08:00 +1  763  0   CM+
DL         862     IND   06:45     DTW   08:00     320  0   FM+
 -> DL/OH  2955    DTW   10:10     CVG   11:34     CR7  0   FM+
 -> DL     44      CVG   18:40     CDG   08:00 +1  763  0   CM+
DL/CP      5823    IND   19:30     DTW   20:40     E75  0   FM+
 -> DL/OH  2955    DTW   10:10 +1  CVG   11:34 +1  CR7  0   FM+
 -> DL     44      CVG   18:40 +1  CDG   08:00 +2  763  0   CM+
DL/CP      5823    IND   19:30     DTW   20:40     E75  0   FM+
 -> DL/XE  5021    DTW   07:25 +1  CVG   08:55 +1  CR9  0   FM+
 -> DL     44      CVG   18:40 +1  CDG   08:00 +2  763  0   CM+
DL/CP      5823    IND   19:30     DTW   20:40     E75  0   FM+
 -> DL/OH  2889    DTW   21:45     CVG   23:01     CR7  0   FM+
 -> DL     44      CVG   18:40 +1  CDG   08:00 +2  763  0   CM+
DL/CP      5823    IND   19:30     DTW   20:40     E75  0   FM+
 -> DL/OH  2997    DTW   15:20 +1  CVG   16:41 +1  CR9  0   FM+
 -> DL     44      CVG   18:40 +1  CDG   08:00 +2  763  0   CM+
DL         2281    IND   19:10     ATL   20:53     M88  0   YM+
 -> DL     22      ATL   21:50     CDG   11:20 +1  763  0   YM+
DL         1534    IND   17:15     ATL   18:49     M88  0   YM+
 -> DL     22      ATL   21:50     CDG   11:20 +1  763  0   YM+
DL         1613    IND   14:20     ATL   15:57     M88  0   YM+
 -> DL     22      ATL   21:50     CDG   11:20 +1  763  0   YM+
DL         1127    IND   12:50     ATL   14:31     M88  0   YM+
 -> DL     22      ATL   21:50     CDG   11:20 +1  763  0   YM+
DL         796     IND   10:40     ATL   12:18     M88  0   YM+
 -> DL     22      ATL   21:50     CDG   11:20 +1  763  0   YM+
DL         1759    IND   08:10     ATL   09:50     M88  0   YM+
 -> DL     22      ATL   21:50     CDG   11:20 +1  763  0   YM+
DL         1575    IND   07:05     ATL   08:50     M88  0   YM+
 -> DL     22      ATL   21:50     CDG   11:20 +1  763  0   YM+
DL         960     IND   06:00     ATL   07:34     M88  0   YM+
 -> DL     22      ATL   21:50     CDG   11:20 +1  763  0   YM+
DL/9E      3854    IND   19:30     MSP   20:25     CR1  0   YM+
 -> DL     220     MSP   17:15 +1  CDG   08:00 +2  763  0   YM+

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.7/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/SkyTeam/FR-AF]

Code:

PAR  Paris Metro FR = CDG ORY BVA XPG XJY
NBO  Nairobi Metro / Jomo Kenyatta Intl KE = NBO WIL [HKNA]
THU  01 Nov 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
AF         1240    CDG   07:15     AMS   08:35              CS5  YA9
 -> KL     565     AMS   10:35     NBO   20:40
AF         1340    CDG   08:00     AMS   09:20              CS6  YA9
 -> KL     565     AMS   10:35     NBO   20:40
KL         1228    CDG   09:35     AMS   10:55              CS4  YX0
 -> KQ     117     AMS   20:40     NBO   07:00 +1
AF         1980    CDG   09:55     LHR   10:15              CX0  YS4
 -> KQ     101     LHR   19:00     NBO   06:30 +1
AF         1640    CDG   11:40     AMS   12:55              CS4  YX0
 -> KQ     117     AMS   20:40     NBO   07:00 +1
AF         1740    CDG   12:45     AMS   14:00              CS4  YX0
 -> KQ     117     AMS   20:40     NBO   07:00 +1
AF         5022    ORY   13:00     LCY   13:25              CX0  YS4
 -> KQ     101     LHR   19:00     NBO   06:30 +1
AF         2280    CDG   13:25     LHR   13:45              CS4  YS4
 -> KQ     101     LHR   19:00     NBO   06:30 +1
KL         1234    CDG   14:40     AMS   15:55              CS4  YX0
 -> KQ     117     AMS   20:40     NBO   07:00 +1
AF         2580    CDG   16:10     LHR   16:25              CS4  YS4
 -> KQ     101     LHR   19:00     NBO   06:30 +1
AF         2040    CDG   16:20     AMS   17:35              CS4  YX0
 -> KQ     117     AMS   20:40     NBO   07:00 +1

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.7/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/SkyTeam/FR-AF]

Code:

NBO  Nairobi Metro / Jomo Kenyatta Intl KE = NBO WIL [HKNA]
SEZ  Seychelles Mahe Is Pointe La Rue Intl SC [FSIA]
THU  01 Nov 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive         St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
KQ         450     NBO   09:05     SEZ   13:20              CS4

Mar 20, 2012 | 8:39 am

#4931

justdmbobbo

Join Date: Dec 2009

Location: IND

Posts: 74

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

Ah, see I knew it was some combo of sorts, I just didn't know how to best go about it.
Thanks!

Mar 20, 2012 | 3:10 pm

#4932

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by justdmbobbo

Ah, see I knew it was some combo of sorts, I just didn't know how to best go about it.
Thanks!

Good luck!

Mar 20, 2012 | 3:13 pm

#4933

KVS

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KVS Tool: Version 6.9.7 Release -- What's New

Version 6.9.7 Release -- What's New:

Enhanced: [Amadeus: Awards/OneWorld] Method Per-Segment Availability & Mixed Cabin Handling
Merged: UA-CO Awards/Upgrades Methods
Added: AF/KL "Europe Classic" Awards Support for FB members

Download

Mar 22, 2012 | 1:58 am

#4934

hwmorth

Join Date: Feb 2009

Location: CH

Posts: 240

Seatmap discrepancy on LX?

Hi, I was just checking if there are any A/B seats open on LX38 (ZRH-SFO) on Apr 21 this year and the KVS tool gave me this

Code:

     A   B    |   C   D   E   F   G    |   H   J   K    
 4   -                -           -                -    
 5   -   -            -           -                -    
 6   -                            -                -    
 7   -                -           -                -    
 8   -                -           -                -    
 9   -   -            -           -                -    
10   -                +           +                -    
11   -   +            +           +                -    
12   -                +           +                -    
14   -   -            -           +                     
15                    +                                 

[+] Available     [W] Wing       [L] Lavatory  
[-] Unavailable   [E] Exit Row   [U] Upper Deck
[P] Preferred

However I called LX to be sure and they assured me that A/B seats available. Any insights on how to see which seats are open to LX? Fact is, I am travelling with my +1 and she´d rather be in the back at a window than up front without a window, so want to check regularily if I should pull the upgrade request..

Mar 22, 2012 | 10:33 am

#4935

KVS

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hwmorth

Hi, I was just checking if there are any A/B seats open on LX38 (ZRH-SFO) on Apr 21 this year and the KVS tool gave me this

However I called LX to be sure and they assured me that A/B seats available. Any insights on how to see which seats are open to LX? Fact is, I am travelling with my +1 and she´d rather be in the back at a window than up front without a window, so want to check regularily if I should pull the upgrade request..

Please use the Enhanced Seat Map option to see those Blocked seats:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.7/Diamond - Amadeus Enhanced Seat Map: 21 Apr 2012/LX 38/ZRH-SFO/343/Business]

Code:

     A  B  |  C  D  E  F  G  |  H  J  K  
 4   -           X        X           X  
 5   -  -        -        -           -  
 6   -           +        -           -  
 7   -  +        X        X           -  
 8   -           -        -           -  
 9   -  -        -        -           -  
10   X           +        +           -  
11   -  +        +        +           -  
12   X           +        +           -  
14   +  +        +        +           +  
15               +        +              

[+] Available     [P] Preferred   [G] Galley
[-] Unavailable   [X] Blocked