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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
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http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
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http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:

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http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:

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http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
...
3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:

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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

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https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
...
9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:

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https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

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https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
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https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
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https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
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https://www.lot.com
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https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:

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http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.

https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
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https://www.tripple.jp
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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

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http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
...
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
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http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
2. Your Conduct

The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

You may not otherwise modify, disassemble, create derivative works, distribute, reproduce, publicly display, perform, transmit, re-transmit, sell, rent, sublicense, or otherwise use any materials or content on this Site for commercial or non-commercial exploitation by yourself or the organization or entity to which you are attached or permit third parties to so do. Without limitation, unlimited or wholesale reproduction, copying of the content for commercial or non-commercial purposes and unwarranted modification of data and information within the content is not permitted, and any use of these materials on any other website or networked computer environment for any purpose without IATA’s prior written consent is prohibited.
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4. Intellectual Property Rights

...You must not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer any software IATA discloses to you via this Site, and you must not remove, overprint, or deface any notice of copyright, trademark, logo, legend, or other notice of ownership from any originals or copies of software or information from the website. "IATA Trademarks" means all names, marks, brands, URL names or addresses, logos, designs, trade dress and other designations IATA uses in connection with Products or Services. You are not permitted to incorporate any IATA Trademarks into any other trademarks, service marks, company names, Internet addresses, domain names, or any other similar designations. Any unauthorized use of any materials contained on this website may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.

http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
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http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
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http://www.myairlines.ru
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http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
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http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
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http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
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http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
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http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
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Jan 6, 2014 | 2:33 pm

#6421

stifle

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Quote:

Originally Posted by dolfinco

Im fairly new to this forum but an avid traveller. On another few threads people have came up with great Bus Class fares from Dub-JFK-MCO however i would rather have a better final destination.

Does the KVS tool allow you to see the above fare rules to easily work out if there are other destination options ?

It does when it's working properly. Right now it isn't.

Jan 6, 2014 | 2:57 pm

#6422

Avnu

Join Date: Apr 2011

Location: BRU

Posts: 175

Quote:

Originally Posted by dolfinco

Yes and no. Fare rules are often the same or quite similar for a whole list of destinations, but in my experience they will never present you with a list of possible destinations. So you'd have to try a few places to see if anything similar comes up.

If you want to see whether there are other possibilities to get from DUB to MCO, then yes, KVS can - when it works - show you the routing rules attached to a certain fare which can help you find different or additional stopovers.

Jan 6, 2014 | 3:33 pm

#6423

dolfinco

Join Date: Aug 2012

Location: Dubai

Posts: 832

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avnu

Thanks. I thought it would be that and probably not of any value to me at this stage then.

Jan 6, 2014 | 4:48 pm

#6424

BangkokTraveler

Join Date: Dec 2001

Location: Florida

Programs: UA 2MM

Posts: 1,923

KVS shows this availability. But every booking engine, including United.com, only offers me a W seat. Can anyone explain?

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.3/Diamond - Availability/FS/US]

Code:

ORD  Chicago O'Hare Intl IL US [KORD]
LAS  Las Vegas McCarran Intl NV US [KLAS]
FRI  31 Jan 2014

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------------
UA         1134    ORD   12:10     LAS   14:08     738      F9 C9 A9 D9 Z7 P5 Y9 B9 M9 E9 U9 H9 Q9 V9 W1 S1 T1 L1 K1 G1 N1

Jan 6, 2014 | 5:08 pm

#6425

st1575

Join Date: Jan 2013

Location: NYC

Posts: 558

Quote:

Originally Posted by BangkokTraveler

KVS shows this availability. But every booking engine, including United.com, only offers me a W seat. Can anyone explain?

Just because there is availability in a particular class for this flight doesn't mean that there is an eligible fare for it at the moment. If the KVS were showing fares, you could cross-check this and the applicable rules.

Jan 7, 2014 | 3:09 am

#6426

stifle

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Could be any number of reasons.

No W class fare defined between your start and end points.
You don't meet the advance reservation, minimum stay, or maximum stay rules for a W fare
W fare not available on your return leg (if a roundtrip) and the fare you are using for your return is non-combinable with a W fare, or vice-versa
You are booking for two or more people and only 1 W fare is offered
KVS listing is out of date
KVS listing relates to a different point of sale than that which you are looking to book from
Married segments
Starnet blocking

OK maybe not the last one.

Jan 7, 2014 | 12:21 pm

#6427

BostonFlyer1624

Join Date: Apr 2011

Location: BOS

Programs: Marriott, AAdvantage, United, Club Carlson

Posts: 1,687

Help?

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Question:

I'm thinking about getting KVS.

Are there any airlines that have restricted access or just simply never show up on KVS? I'll be doing a lot of BOS-ATH searching, using multiple via points to get there. Thanks!

Jan 8, 2014 | 2:06 am

#6428

croberts134

Join Date: Aug 2007

Location: HOU

Programs: AA EXP, UA 1K

Posts: 285

Quote:

Originally Posted by stifle

Could be any number of reasons.

No W class fare defined between your start and end points.
You don't meet the advance reservation, minimum stay, or maximum stay rules for a W fare
W fare not available on your return leg (if a roundtrip) and the fare you are using for your return is non-combinable with a W fare, or vice-versa
You are booking for two or more people and only 1 W fare is offered
KVS listing is out of date
KVS listing relates to a different point of sale than that which you are looking to book from
Married segments
Starnet blocking

I believe the poster of this particular question was wondering why there is availability below W class, but united.com only gives him/her a W class fare. In this case, there are fares cheaper than W in the market, but the routing rules require travel through IAH or DEN. The cheaper fares are not allowed on the non-stop service.

Jan 9, 2014 | 1:52 am

#6429

KVS

Original Poster

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Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by BostonFlyer1624

Question:

I'm thinking about getting KVS.

Are there any airlines that have restricted access or just simply never show up on KVS? I'll be doing a lot of BOS-ATH searching, using multiple via points to get there. Thanks!

Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Q1 and make sure that you are meeting the rules of the lower Fares:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.3/Diamond - Fares/PSH/RU]

Code:

CHI  Chicago Metro IL US = ORD MDW RFD
LAS  Las Vegas McCarran Intl NV US [KLAS]
R/T  31 Jan 2014 | Economy-Low

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur   AdvanceP  Min  Max  Fare Basis | Travel Period
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ---  --------------------------
UA         CHI     LAS       312   USD    14 Days            LAU14KS      24 Dec-26 Mar
UA         CHI     LAS       330   USD    21 Days            LA21KN       24 Dec-26 Mar
UA         CHI     LAS       330   USD    14 Days            TAU14KS      18 Jan-21 May
UA         CHI     LAS       330   USD    21 Days            LA21KN       18 Jan-21 May
UA         CHI     LAS       349   USD    14 Days            TAG14KS      18 Jan-21 May
UA         CHI     LAS       440   USD    14 Days            SA14KN       18 Jan-21 May
UA         CHI     LAS       441   USD    14 Days            WAK14QS      22 Jan-10 May
UA         CHI     LAS       478   USD    14 Days            WA14QS       22 Jan-10 May
UA         CHI     LAS       510   USD    14 Days            WA14KN       22 Jan-10 May
UA         CHI     LAS       593   USD    14 Days            QA14KN       22 Jan-10 May
UA         CHI     LAS       690   USD     7 Days            HA7KN        22 Jan-10 May
UA         CHI     LAS       949   USD        ***            EA0KY        22 Jan-10 May
UA         CHI     LAS      1051   USD    14 Days            V2UP14N3     22 Jan-10 May
UA         CHI     LAS      1135   USD        ***            MA0FY        22 Jan-10 May
UA         CHI     LAS      1237   USD     7 Days            Q2UP7Y3      22 Jan-10 May
UA         CHI     LAS      1431   USD        ***            H2UPY3       22 Jan-10 May
UA         CHI     LAS      1506   USD        ***            BA0FY        22 Jan-10 May
UA         CHI     LAS      2232   USD        ***            YUA          22 Jan-10 May
UA         CHI     LAS      2985   USD        ***            FUA          22 Jan-10 May
UA         CHI     LAS      2985   USD        ***            YUAUP3       22 Jan-10 May
UA         CHI     LAS     10847   USD        ***            Y            22 Jan-10 May
UA         CHI     LAS     14462   USD        ***            F            22 Jan-10 May

Jan 9, 2014 | 1:53 am

#6430

KVS

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Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalendil

Is there any delay/lag/discrepancy between what KVS shows for award availability via the StarAlliance7D function vs the web-based ANA tool?

No, that would be technically impossible.

Jan 9, 2014 | 1:56 am

#6431

KVS

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Posts: 12,952

Resolved: [Fares/PSH] Method Issues

[Fares/PSH] Method issues have now been resolved.

Please restart the KVS Tool if necessary.

Jan 9, 2014 | 7:16 pm

#6432

VictorXray

Join Date: Dec 2009

Location: LED,TLV,DUS

Programs: LH SEN + many more

Posts: 550

Hello KVS, is there a code for a long time FTers avail? I've tried YGPM on Diamond option and it says that it's not valid.

Thanx a lot, regards,
Victor

Jan 9, 2014 | 7:16 pm

#6433

VictorXray

Join Date: Dec 2009

Location: LED,TLV,DUS

Programs: LH SEN + many more

Posts: 550

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Jan 9, 2014 | 11:52 pm

#6434

pdrollins

Join Date: Apr 2005

Programs: AA Exec Plat

Posts: 10

Flights to Bkk via NRT

I'm trying to use KVS to find some good fares from Mia to Bkk on AA around Feb 10th. Using the Fares/PSH, I see some good fares. When I check Availability, I see Flights on AA to LHR then on TG to Bkk.
How can I see the availability of AA flights to Bkk via NRT?

Jan 10, 2014 | 12:25 am

#6435

stifle

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Quote:

Originally Posted by pdrollins

I would suggest searching one leg at a time for that.