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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:

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http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:

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http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Website’s information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24’s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:

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http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways’ prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:

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http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
...
3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:

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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

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https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
...
9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:

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https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
...
D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
...
Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
...
L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz® web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
...
You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

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https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
...
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:

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http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.

https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:

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https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without United’s prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without United’s prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

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http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
...
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:

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http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
2. Your Conduct

The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

You may not otherwise modify, disassemble, create derivative works, distribute, reproduce, publicly display, perform, transmit, re-transmit, sell, rent, sublicense, or otherwise use any materials or content on this Site for commercial or non-commercial exploitation by yourself or the organization or entity to which you are attached or permit third parties to so do. Without limitation, unlimited or wholesale reproduction, copying of the content for commercial or non-commercial purposes and unwarranted modification of data and information within the content is not permitted, and any use of these materials on any other website or networked computer environment for any purpose without IATA’s prior written consent is prohibited.
...
4. Intellectual Property Rights

...You must not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer any software IATA discloses to you via this Site, and you must not remove, overprint, or deface any notice of copyright, trademark, logo, legend, or other notice of ownership from any originals or copies of software or information from the website. "IATA Trademarks" means all names, marks, brands, URL names or addresses, logos, designs, trade dress and other designations IATA uses in connection with Products or Services. You are not permitted to incorporate any IATA Trademarks into any other trademarks, service marks, company names, Internet addresses, domain names, or any other similar designations. Any unauthorized use of any materials contained on this website may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.

http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
Terms of Use:

http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
Terms of Use:

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
Terms of Use:

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Jan 10, 2014 | 1:30 am

#6436

st1575

Join Date: Jan 2013

Location: NYC

Posts: 558

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdrollins

How can I see the availability of AA flights to Bkk via NRT?

Do you have access to the Mobile Companion? I find it works really well for AA.

Jan 10, 2014 | 2:23 am

#6437

stifle

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Feb 2009

Location: From ORK, live LCY

Programs: BA Silver, M&M*G, HH Gold, ABP, Seigneur des Horaires des Mucci

Posts: 14,915

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

[Fares/PSH] Method issues have now been resolved.

Please restart the KVS Tool if necessary.

I'm afraid there are still gremlins in the system. While fares show up, if I ask for fare rules I get Error retrieving fare rules: "Error".

Jan 10, 2014 | 3:41 am

#6438

stifle

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Feb 2009

Location: From ORK, live LCY

Programs: BA Silver, M&M*G, HH Gold, ABP, Seigneur des Horaires des Mucci

Posts: 14,915

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Last edited by stifle; Jan 10, 2014 at 3:43 am Reason: duplicate

Jan 10, 2014 | 1:00 pm

#6439

KVS

Original Poster

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by VictorXray

Hello KVS, is there a code for a long time FTers avail? I've tried YGPM on Diamond option and it says that it's not valid.

There are no codes, but the annual membership options do come with a 2-month bonus, which is included automatically:

http://Join.KVSTool.com/

Jan 10, 2014 | 1:02 pm

#6440

KVS

Original Poster

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdrollins

I'm trying to use KVS to find some good fares from Mia to Bkk on AA around Feb 10th. Using the Fares/PSH, I see some good fares. When I check Availability, I see Flights on AA to LHR then on TG to Bkk.

Quote:

Originally Posted by stifle

I would suggest searching one leg at a time for that.

Indeed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by pdrollins

How can I see the availability of AA flights to Bkk via NRT?

Also, for AA flights please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#WhichMethod

Jan 10, 2014 | 1:06 pm

#6441

KVS

Original Poster

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by BostonFlyer1624

I'm thinking about getting KVS.

Are there any airlines that have restricted access or just simply never show up on KVS? I'll be doing a lot of BOS-ATH searching, using multiple via points to get there. Thanks!

The short answer is 'no', but if you have any specific airline(s) in mind, we would be able to provide a more detailed answer.

Please see also http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes for a partial list of 500+ supported airlines.

Jan 10, 2014 | 1:11 pm

#6442

KVS

Original Poster

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by stifle

I'm afraid there are still gremlins in the system. While fares show up, if I ask for fare rules I get Error retrieving fare rules: "Error".

The Fare Rules option continues to function normally. However, you may receive an Error Message if you come across a restricted Fare (which is rare).

Jan 10, 2014 | 1:41 pm

#6443

VictorXray

Join Date: Dec 2009

Location: LED,TLV,DUS

Programs: LH SEN + many more

Posts: 550

-So, when joining and paying for Diamond bundle, I get 14 months. Correct? Thanx
-Also, what option would you recommend for my Mac to run? I am 95% interested in using *A (LH and LX) tickets and class availability (most miles generating classes in Y and C) and occasional upgrade. Thank you ))

upd: ah, just saw that it's 12mo

Jan 10, 2014 | 1:56 pm

#6444

KVS

Original Poster

FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by VictorXray

-Also, what option would you recommend for my Mac to run? I am 95% interested in using *A (LH and LX) tickets and class availability (most miles generating classes in Y and C) and occasional upgrade. Thank you ))

If you are interested in *A Awards, then Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion would be best.

Otherwise, you can use any of the Mac options listed at http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Mac

Jan 10, 2014 | 2:02 pm

#6445

BostonFlyer1624

Join Date: Apr 2011

Location: BOS

Programs: Marriott, AAdvantage, United, Club Carlson

Posts: 1,687

Using KVS and searching MUC-YUL on 8/31. LH 474 shows two biz class awards, but when I call United, they don't find it (tried 3 agents). I'm using AC award method.

Jan 10, 2014 | 3:02 pm

#6446

KVS

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FlyerTalk Evangelist

Join Date: Jan 2004

Location: Worldwide

Posts: 12,952

Quote:

Originally Posted by BostonFlyer1624

Using KVS and searching MUC-YUL on 8/31. LH 474 shows two biz class awards, but when I call United, they don't find it (tried 3 agents). I'm using AC award method.

Welcome to the KVS Tool!

Looks like an issue with the [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Engine.
Unfortunately, there are no C Award Seats available on that flight:

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.3/Diamond - Awards/StarAlliance/JP-ANA-SP1]

Code:

MUC  Munich Franz Josef Strauss DE [EDDM]
YUL  Montreal Pierre Elliott Trudeau/Dorval QC CA [CYUL]
SUN  31 Aug 2014 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LH         474     MUC   15:50     YUL   18:20     333  0   FS-  CS-  YS+
LH         2228    MUC   08:55     CDG   10:30     320  0   FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> AC     871     CDG   13:05     YUL   14:25     77W  0   FS/  CS-  YS-
LH         95      MUC   08:00     FRA   09:05     321  0   FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> AC     875     FRA   10:30     YUL   12:30     333  0   FS/  CS-  YS+
LH         101     MUC   10:00     FRA   11:05     321  0   FS/  CS-  YS+
 -> LH     478     FRA   13:35     YUL   15:40     333  0   FS/  CS-  YS+
LH         103     MUC   11:00     FRA   12:05     321  0   FS/  CS-  YS+
 -> LH     478     FRA   13:35     YUL   15:40     333  0   FS/  CS-  YS+
LH         2474    MUC   12:00     LHR   13:05     320  0   FS/  CS+  YS+
 -> AC     865     LHR   15:00     YUL   17:05     77W  0   FS/  CS-  YS+

Jan 10, 2014 | 3:14 pm

#6447

benom

Join Date: Aug 2009

Location: LJU

Programs: A3*G, EY Gold

Posts: 16

@KVS
is there any plan to get back [Fares/FS]?
Thanks.

Jan 11, 2014 | 11:32 am

#6448

delanotre

Join Date: Oct 2006

Location: Paris, France

Programs: Flying Blue (LTPE) All (Gold)

Posts: 1,543

Quote:

Originally Posted by KVS

If you are interested in *A Awards, then Parallels Desktop or VMWare Fusion would be best...

I use free Oracle Virtual box for several years: very fast and always upgraded when needed, for free of course.
https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads

Jan 11, 2014 | 11:50 am

#6449

delanotre

Join Date: Oct 2006

Location: Paris, France

Programs: Flying Blue (LTPE) All (Gold)

Posts: 1,543

Happy to use Fares/PSH again and to find some "nuggets" with AF (in first, of course

)

[KVS Availability Tool 7.3.3/Diamond - Fares/PSH/RU]

Code:

JNB  Johannesburg Metro / OR Tambo Intl ZA = JNB HLA [FAJS]
HNL  Honolulu Intl HI US [PHNL]
R/T  16 Apr 2014 | First

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur   AdvanceP  Min  Max  Fare Basis | Travel Period
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ---  --------------------------
AF         JNB     HNL      8756   USD        ***       360  FFFZA 
AA         JNB     HNL     10960   USD        ***            ARZA
EK         JNB     HNL     11176   USD        ***       120  AEE4MZA1
SN         JNB     HNL     11909   USD        ***       360  F77RT
LX         JNB     HNL     11909   USD        ***       360  F77RT
UA         JNB     HNL     11909   USD        ***       360  F77RT
OS         JNB     HNL     11909   USD        ***       360  F77RT
LH         JNB     HNL     11909   USD        ***       360  F77RT
AA         JNB     HNL     11976   USD        ***            F1E6FR
BA         JNB     HNL     12604   USD        ***       360  AFFAFR
EK         JNB     HNL     12867   USD        ***       360  FRTZA1
AA         JNB     HNL     14919   USD        ***            FRZA
AA         JNB     HNL     15570   USD        ***            F1E6FO
SA         JNB     HNL     16004   USD        ***            FRT
BA         JNB     HNL     16287   USD        ***       360  FFFAFR
AA         JNB     HNL     16287   USD        ***            AZA
YY         JNB     HNL     17352   USD        ***            FIFRT2
AA         JNB     HNL     22228   USD        ***            FZA
AF         JNB     HNL     23782   USD        ***            PFF
AF         JNB     HNL     23782   USD        ***       360  PFFZA
EK         JNB     HNL     24084   USD        ***            ARTZA7

Last edited by delanotre; Jan 11, 2014 at 11:55 am

Jan 12, 2014 | 6:42 am

#6450

belfordrocks

Join Date: Dec 2009

Posts: 5,443

Is there anyway to use the Star Alliance M&M method with a temporary account only (no miles)?