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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Websites information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:

https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:

https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:

https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:

https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:

https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:

https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:

https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
Terms of Use:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:

https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without Uniteds prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without Uniteds prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:

https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:

https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
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http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
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http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
Terms of Use:

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 4:39 pm
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KVS Mobile Companion and Airport Code

When I check availability on my tablet using the Mobile companion for YYZ - to GRU (*A) (Feb 27th) it loads AC90 as YYZ to SAP not GRU (same for other *A carriers).

Comparing to my desktop KVS, booking class / availability appears to be correct. Just curious why the arriving airport code is incorrect? I know it downloads what it receives from Sabre, but why SAP not GRU? I don't want to upgrade to Honduras, or go there, for that matter. Thanks KVS.
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Old Jan 24, 2012 | 5:24 pm
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Originally Posted by zackery149
When I check availability on my tablet using the Mobile companion for YYZ - to GRU (*A) (Feb 27th) it loads AC90 as YYZ to SAP not GRU (same for other *A carriers).

Comparing to my desktop KVS, booking class / availability appears to be correct. Just curious why the arriving airport code is incorrect? I know it downloads what it receives from Sabre, but why SAP not GRU? I don't want to upgrade to Honduras, or go there, for that matter. Thanks KVS.
The Availability Engine in the KVS Tool Mobile Companion may experience occasional issues interpreting certain airport names/codes. You can verify the routing by clicking the [Flight Info] icon and use the Contact Form to quickly report any such occurrences.

Rest assured, the Flight #, Availability, and all other data are always correct.
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 2:09 am
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Interestingly, I'm seeing some disagreement between Awards/OneWorld and Awards/BA-OneWorld on AKL-SYD on Jan 30 and 31. On Jan 30, OneWorld shows no seats on the LAN flight, though BA-Oneworld shows YS9. On Jan 31, OneWorld shows YS+ for 2 seats, but not 3, on the LAN flight (but with QF flight number), while BA-OneWorld shows YS3. On a separate note, I've read elsewhere that AAdvantage awards can't even use this segment, but I'm not sure where that is officially stated.
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 11:31 am
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Originally Posted by flightline
Interestingly, I'm seeing some disagreement between Awards/OneWorld and Awards/BA-OneWorld on AKL-SYD on Jan 30 and 31. On Jan 30, OneWorld shows no seats on the LAN flight, though BA-Oneworld shows YS9. On Jan 31, OneWorld shows YS+ for 2 seats, but not 3, on the LAN flight (but with QF flight number), while BA-OneWorld shows YS3.
Looks like a system connectivity issue between LA and its partners. Their own system is currently reporting zero YS Award Availability on both of those dates.

Originally Posted by flightline
On a separate note, I've read elsewhere that AAdvantage awards can't even use this segment, but I'm not sure where that is officially stated.
Award seats on the QF/LA codeshares are only available to QF FFP members, so they are irrelevant if you are redeeming AADV mileage.
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 8:00 pm
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Hi KVS,

For some reason my Enhanced Seat Map functionality is not working.

Have posted on a forum before asking people for a seat map for a particular flight like BA7311 / in PE for 10 Aug 2012.

My basic seat map works but the enhanced one does not - the error is below:

Unable to find a matching flight, or the flight is not currently available for sale in the requested cabin class [2].

/AE
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Old Jan 25, 2012 | 9:10 pm
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Originally Posted by angeloedades
Hi KVS,

For some reason my Enhanced Seat Map functionality is not working.

Have posted on a forum before asking people for a seat map for a particular flight like BA7311 / in PE for 10 Aug 2012.

My basic seat map works but the enhanced one does not - the error is below:

Unable to find a matching flight, or the flight is not currently available for sale in the requested cabin class [2].
Please use the [Galileo: ETR] Method to bring-up that flight before accessing the Enhanced Seat Map:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.2/Diamond - Amadeus Enhanced Seat Map: 10 Aug 2012/BA 7311/SYD-LHR/388/Premium Economy]
Code:
     A  B  |  D  E  F  |  J  K  
34   X  X     +  +  +     X  X  
35   -  -     +  +  +     -  -  
36   -  -     +  +  +     +  +  
37   +  +     +  +  +     +  +  
38            +  +  +     +  +  
39   +  +     +  +  +           

[+] Available     [P] Preferred   [G] Galley
[-] Unavailable   [X] Blocked
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 12:13 am
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Routing Rules

KVS-

I posted this issue a little over a week ago and it seems to still be abound. I cannot view routing rules for various fares, across Sabre, Galileo, or ATP method(s). I'm able to pull up fare basis, prices, etc., however routing rules constantly result in 'NO FARE IN SYSTEM'. I've spot checked different airlines, fare buckets, etc. to see if its a specific issue - alas, no.

I'm sitting on a Diamond membership, so I know I'm not insufficient in privileges. Is there something I'm not doing correctly?

Thanks!
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 2:09 am
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I can't see any * Alliance awards. I'm getting
Data Source Error[I]:

ANA
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 2:52 am
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Hello,

So I have just acquired the KVS Tool Diamond membership and I've been playing around with it a little bit in order to get a grip of things...

I have encountered a few problems and a question regarding fares.

I am a macbook user so I need to run the program through 'Crossover'

- When trying to search for fares with the Sabre tool, it gives me an error message (Galileo / ATP work fine)
- When trying to check for upgrade availability for UACO it gives me an error message saying UA MP settings are not set correctly ??
- When trying to search for *A award availability via SNT it also gives me an error message ("Engine Error [SF1-BKM]")
Here again, the ITA tool works fine.

Now I have a question regarding fares. I need to fly HKG-EWR(NYC) in late february. Im looking into getting the direct shuttle offered by UACO.
KVS tool gives me a fare at:
[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.2/Diamond - ATP: Fares/FC/US]
Code:
HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
EWR  New York Newark Liberty Intl NJ US [KEWR]
R/T  

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur   Total     Q    YQYR  Fare Basis
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ----  -------------
CO         HKG     EWR       723   USD       866         139  KLE0ZEC4
UA         HKG     EWR       723   USD      1000         277  KLE0ZEC4
CO         HKG     EWR       798   USD       941         139  KKE0ZEC4
UA         HKG     EWR       798   USD      1075         277  KKE0ZEC4
I understand that the total of 866 includes YQ surcharges?!
Now KLE0ZEC4 gives me:
1,078.40 USD on united and continental websites.

In the fare rules its also specified that this offer is valid until the 31.January - which probably means that I would have to book it by then to ensure that low fare?

thanks for helping.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 3:10 pm
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Originally Posted by broms
I posted this issue a little over a week ago and it seems to still be abound. I cannot view routing rules for various fares, across Sabre, Galileo, or ATP method(s). I'm able to pull up fare basis, prices, etc., however routing rules constantly result in 'NO FARE IN SYSTEM'. I've spot checked different airlines, fare buckets, etc. to see if its a specific issue - alas, no.

I'm sitting on a Diamond membership, so I know I'm not insufficient in privileges. Is there something I'm not doing correctly?
As per the reply in Post #4507, there is currently an issue with the Routing Rules Engine for certain Fares. If there are any particular one(s) you are interested in, please feel free to PM their details (city pair/carrier/Fare Basis) and we will look them up for you.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 3:25 pm
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Originally Posted by jmoorfoot
I can't see any * Alliance awards. I'm getting
Data Source Error[I]:

ANA
Originally Posted by mxr
I am a macbook user so I need to run the program through 'Crossover'

- When trying to search for *A award availability via SNT it also gives me an error message ("Engine Error [SF1-BKM]")
Here again, the ITA tool works fine.
As mentioned in the KVS Tool User Guide at http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Mac, a bug in the CrossOver Mac system currently prevents the use of the [Awards/StarAlliance] Method by its Mac users.

Please use the [Awards/AC-StarAlliance] Method instead or consider switching to another solution, such as Parallels or VMWare for Mac.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 3:39 pm
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Originally Posted by mxr
So I have just acquired the KVS Tool Diamond membership and I've been playing around with it a little bit in order to get a grip of things...
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Originally Posted by mxr
I have encountered a few problems and a question regarding fares.

- When trying to search for fares with the Sabre tool, it gives me an error message (Galileo / ATP work fine)
What is the error message?

Originally Posted by mxr
- When trying to check for upgrade availability for UACO it gives me an error message saying UA MP settings are not set correctly ??
Please see http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Method_ITA_AwardsUpgrades_UA

Originally Posted by mxr
Now I have a question regarding fares. I need to fly HKG-EWR(NYC) in late february. Im looking into getting the direct shuttle offered by UACO.
KVS tool gives me a fare at:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.2/Diamond - ATP: Fares/FC/US]
Code:
HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
EWR  New York Newark Liberty Intl NJ US [KEWR]
R/T  

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur   Total     Q    YQYR  Fare Basis
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  ----  -------------
CO         HKG     EWR       723   USD       866         139  KLE0ZEC4
UA         HKG     EWR       723   USD      1000         277  KLE0ZEC4
CO         HKG     EWR       798   USD       941         139  KKE0ZEC4
UA         HKG     EWR       798   USD      1075         277  KKE0ZEC4
I understand that the total of 866 includes YQ surcharges?!
Now KLE0ZEC4 gives me:
1,078.40 USD on united and continental websites.
The Fuel Surcharge is actually $277 for both UA & CO Fares, so the total ticket price is $1 078 USD ($723 Base Fare + $277 YQ + $78 Taxes).

Originally Posted by mxr
In the fare rules its also specified that this offer is valid until the 31.January - which probably means that I would have to book it by then to ensure that low fare?
Yes, but the ticket price is also subject to Availability.
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Old Jan 26, 2012 | 5:51 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
As per the reply in Post #4507, there is currently an issue with the Routing Rules Engine for certain Fares. If there are any particular one(s) you are interested in, please feel free to PM their details (city pair/carrier/Fare Basis) and we will look them up for you.
KVS - Thank you. I should've been a bit more polite in rephrasing my question to asked if the issue had been fixed yet

Thanks again for all you do for us!
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 10:32 am
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I have been checking BA award availability and I am curious because sometimes it will let me check flights 355 days out, but often I will get an error message ("Please try using a different POS setting for this query."). Am I getting lucky when it will let me check +355, or is it a bug that it won't let me always check +355?

Now this is really obscure (and might belong on the BAEC board) but I am a little curious about how the +355 (or +354) rules work across time zones. Are the tickets released by BA at midnight GMT for anyone to book, or do people only have access to book whatever is available when the new day starts in their time zone (I am in the US, if you couldn't guess).

Last, I use KVS on both a PC and a mac (via crossover), but the mac has not been able to startup since the new version came out. I assume I have to uninstall and reinstall the new version?
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 7:57 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
What is the error message?
either: Error 9001: Time-Out Requesting Data
or: Error 9002: No Data received

and: Error 12157: The Application Experienced An Internal Error Loading The SSL Libraries

actually this time after I clicked OK, a few fares showed up.


For the rest: Thanks alot!
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