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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Websites information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
...
3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:

https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
...
9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:

https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:

https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:

https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:

https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:

https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:

https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
Terms of Use:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:

https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
...
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without Uniteds prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without Uniteds prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:

https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:

https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
...
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
2. Your Conduct

The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

You may not otherwise modify, disassemble, create derivative works, distribute, reproduce, publicly display, perform, transmit, re-transmit, sell, rent, sublicense, or otherwise use any materials or content on this Site for commercial or non-commercial exploitation by yourself or the organization or entity to which you are attached or permit third parties to so do. Without limitation, unlimited or wholesale reproduction, copying of the content for commercial or non-commercial purposes and unwarranted modification of data and information within the content is not permitted, and any use of these materials on any other website or networked computer environment for any purpose without IATAs prior written consent is prohibited.
...
4. Intellectual Property Rights

...You must not modify, decompile, or reverse engineer any software IATA discloses to you via this Site, and you must not remove, overprint, or deface any notice of copyright, trademark, logo, legend, or other notice of ownership from any originals or copies of software or information from the website. "IATA Trademarks" means all names, marks, brands, URL names or addresses, logos, designs, trade dress and other designations IATA uses in connection with Products or Services. You are not permitted to incorporate any IATA Trademarks into any other trademarks, service marks, company names, Internet addresses, domain names, or any other similar designations. Any unauthorized use of any materials contained on this website may violate copyright laws, trademark laws, the laws of privacy and publicity, and communications regulations and statutes.

http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
Terms of Use:

http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
Terms of Use:

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
Terms of Use:
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Old Jan 31, 2012 | 2:43 pm
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 3:40 pm
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Originally Posted by former230
Just wanted to say that this tool has been very helpful so far. I am looking for a U class reward on CX next november and the same on a KA flight. I signed up as a diamond member and this tool has been a lot of fun and helpful. Still waiting for CX to release the inventory though!

Thanks for making this tool available!
A belated welcome to the KVS Tool!

Glad you're enjoying the CX Award Availability functionality and best of luck in finding your desired award.
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 3:50 pm
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Arrow KVS Tool: Version 6.9.4 Release -- What's New

Version 6.9.4 Release -- What's New:

  • New [Fares: ATP/FC] Method replaces [Fares/TVN]

  • Resolved: [Awards/M&M], [Awards/DL-SkyTeam], [Awards/JL-OneWorld], [Seat Map: Amadeus/Text] & [ITA Query Builder] Issues

  • Added: LO/AY/9W PNR Support

  • Added: Time option for the [Awards/CX] Method

  • Enhanced: DL SM Award Level (xX) Automatic Decoder functionality for the [Awards/DL] Method

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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 4:26 pm
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UA saver vs. standard award in KVS

Hello, I searched for this in the thread with no luck. With UA, is there a way to see which award seats are saver and which are standard? For example, XY1 (economy award)...is it a saver or standard? Thank you.
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Old Feb 1, 2012 | 6:16 pm
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Originally Posted by NWR
Hello, I searched for this in the thread with no luck. With UA, is there a way to see which award seats are saver and which are standard? For example, XY1 (economy award)...is it a saver or standard? Thank you.
There sure is -- please see:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 5:54 am
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Error RD-3

Hi,
I solved it by re-installing KVS but now it's suddenly back: When checking M&M-Awards KVS-Tool returns: Data source error [RD-3]: "Your Flight"

System: Windows7 64bit (but I also tried on VMachine Win-XP and native XP)

What I tried so far:
- changing cookies settings
- uninstall/re-install
- re-register *.OCX

Any suggestions?
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 8:38 am
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I can't search Skyteam awards anymore since last nights upgrade. It says that the KVS tool might not be up to date.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 10:07 am
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Originally Posted by lallyr
I can't search Skyteam awards anymore since last nights upgrade. It says that the KVS tool might not be up to date.
The [Awards/SkyTeam] Engine is currently unavailable.

Please use the [Awards/DL-SkyTeam] Method in the meantime and monitor the announcements on the KVS Tool Homepage.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 10:07 am
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Question

Originally Posted by uncleflori
I solved it by re-installing KVS but now it's suddenly back: When checking M&M-Awards KVS-Tool returns: Data source error [RD-3]: "Your Flight"

System: Windows7 64bit (but I also tried on VMachine Win-XP and native XP)

What I tried so far:
- changing cookies settings
- uninstall/re-install
- re-register *.OCX

Any suggestions?
Which KVS Tool version are you running?
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 10:45 am
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Noob at KVS TOOL. I am trying to learn how to do everything but I think I might be missing some steps.

I am looking for Cheapest fares NYC-FCO or Milan. I chose the EI fare for search.

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.4/Diamond - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:
JFK  New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
FCO  Rome Fiumicino IT [LIRF]
R/T  26 Feb 2012 | 07 Mar 2013 | Economy

Carrier    From    To    Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis/TD
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
TP         NYC     ROM        70   USD                      ULEUROPE
TP         NYC     ROM       150   USD                      ALEUROPE
AA         NYC     ROM       239   USD                      OLX7Q2Z1
UA         NYC     ROM       239   USD                      TLXNC22S
US         NYC     ROM       239   USD                      WLXET7EA
UX         NYC     ROM       239   USD                      PLXPRO2
SK         NYC     ROM       259   USD                      LLUSCE22
EI         NYC     ROM       288   USD                      WLXFTSUS
DL         NYC     ROM       289   USD                      TLXP47US
AZ         NYC     ROM       289   USD                      LLXP47US
AF         NYC     ROM       289   USD                      NLXP47US
US         NYC     ROM       289   USD                      VLWET7EA
US         NYC     ROM       289   USD                      VLXET7EU
AB         NYC     ROM       295   USD                      EFLYRT2
AA         NYC     ROM       299   USD                      QLX7Q2Z1
UA         NYC     ROM       299   USD                      SLXNC22T
UX         NYC     ROM       299   USD                      QLXPRO2
TP         NYC     ROM       300   USD                      KLTAPEU
EI         NYC     ROM       308   USD                      WLXFTUS
EI         NYC     ROM       328   USD                      WLWFTSUS
US         NYC     ROM       339   USD                      VLWET7EU
EI         NYC     ROM       348   USD                      WLWFTUS
SU         NYC     ROM       350   USD                      LLPX
UA         NYC     ROM       359   USD                      WLXNC22U
TK         NYC     ROM       368   USD                      GNPB3M
AB         NYC     ROM       373   USD                      PFLYRT2
DL         NYC     ROM       389   USD                      ULXP47US
AZ         NYC     ROM       389   USD                      SLXP47US
AY         NYC     ROM       395   USD                      RLXECO
TP         NYC     ROM       420   USD                      VLTAPEU
AY         NYC     ROM       435   USD                      RLWECO
UX         NYC     ROM       448   USD                      ULXSX2MS
SU         NYC     ROM       450   USD                      WLPX
AB         NYC     ROM       463   USD                      OFLYRT2
AY         NYC     ROM       465   USD                      ZLXECO
TK         NYC     ROM       473   USD                      WNPB3M
AA         NYC     ROM       477   USD                      NLXE2NA
UA         NYC     ROM       477   USD                      SLX6NCE
SK         NYC     ROM       477   USD                      KLUSEUE
UX         NYC     ROM       498   USD                      ULWSX2MS
AY         NYC     ROM       505   USD                      ZLWECO
DL         NYC     ROM       527   USD                      ULXB67US
AZ         NYC     ROM       527   USD                      NLXB67US
AF         NYC     ROM       527   USD                      TLXB67US
AA         NYC     ROM       527   USD                      NLXD2NA
US         NYC     ROM       527   USD                      NLWETNE1
US         NYC     ROM       527   USD                      NLXETNE1
AY         NYC     ROM       535   USD                      OLXECO
SK         NYC     ROM       537   USD                      WLUSEUE
BA         NYC     ROM       539   USD                      TLXNCNA1

Then it looks like there are W4 in the availabilty search. In theory there should be a way to check if I can buy these right?

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.4/Diamond - Sabre: Availability/FS/US]
Code:
FCO  Rome Fiumicino IT [LIRF]
JFK  New York John F Kennedy Intl NY US [KJFK]
DUB  Dublin IE [EIDW]
WED  07 Mar 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------------------------------------------
EI         403     FCO   12:10     DUB   14:30     320      Y4 B4 H4 K4 M4 V4 N4 L4 O4 Q4 X4 S4 R4 W4 Z4 T4 G4
 -> EI     109     DUB   15:45     JFK   18:20     330      J4 C4 D0 U? I4 Y4 B4 H4 M4 V4 N4 L4 O4 Q4 X4 T4 S4 R4 W4 G4

When I use the Find Flights using ITA option nothing comes back. Has ITA changed the language of their search engine. Or does that mean this flight is not available? Because I can do a Kayak.com search and find fares that do not appear on ITA.

I just want to know if there are any sites that KVS TOOL knows can search for this fare class on this flight. Thanks. Even if it is not with EI can I book any of those cheaper fares?
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by thetravelabstract
Noob at KVS TOOL. I am trying to learn how to do everything but I think I might be missing some steps.

I am looking for Cheapest fares NYC-FCO or Milan. I chose the EI fare for search.

Then it looks like there are W4 in the availabilty search. In theory there should be a way to check if I can buy these right?

When I use the Find Flights using ITA option nothing comes back. Has ITA changed the language of their search engine. Or does that mean this flight is not available? Because I can do a Kayak.com search and find fares that do not appear on ITA.

I just want to know if there are any sites that KVS TOOL knows can search for this fare class on this flight. Thanks. Even if it is not with EI can I book any of those cheaper fares?
Your return date is outside of the Seasonality period and the outbound date is a Sunday:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.4/Diamond - Sabre: NYC-ROM/EI/WLXFTSUS/288 USD]
Code:
[Seasonality]
PERMITTED 01FEB12 THROUGH 29FEB12 FOR EACH TRIP.
SEASON IS BASED ON TRIP DATE.

[Day/Time]
PERMITTED MON/TUE/WED/THU.

[Rule Application & Other Conditions]
NOTE - THE FOLLOWING TEXT IS INFORMATIONAL AND NOT
VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
AER LINGUS PUBLIC FARES FROM THE USA TO IRELAND/
EUROPE.
APPLICATION
 AREA
  THESE FARES APPLY
   FROM UNITED STATES
   TO IRELAND
   ANDEUROPE.
 CLASS OF SERVICE
  THESE FARES APPLY FOR BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS
   SERVICE.
 TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
  FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
   ROUND-TRIP/CIRCLE-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
  THESE FARES ONLY APPLY WHEN PURCHASED PRIOR TO
   COMMENCEMENT OF TRAVEL.
 CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
  THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS
   CARRIED ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY
   THIS RULE AND SUCH FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE
   AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS. THE NUMBER OF SEATS,
   WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN
   FLIGHT, WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE CARRIER$S BEST
   JUDGEMENT.

[Flight Application]
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST INCLUDE TRAVEL VIA EACH
TRANSATLANTIC SECTOR ON
    ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
      ANY EI FLIGHT.

[Advance Reservations/Ticketing]
FARE RULE
CONFIRMED RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS ARE REQUIRED AT
LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE, TICKETING MUST BE
COMPLETED AT LEAST 7 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE.
 
GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED AT LEAST 30 MINUTES BEFORE
DEPARTURE.
OPEN RETURNS PERMITTED, TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED AT
LEAST 30 MINUTES BEFORE DEPARTURE.

[Minimum Stay]
TRAVEL FROM LAST INTERNATIONAL STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE
NO EARLIER THAN THE FIRST SUN AFTER DEPARTURE OF THE
FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.

[Maximum Stay]
TRAVEL FROM LAST STOPOVER MUST COMMENCE NO LATER THAN
12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE FROM FARE ORIGIN.

[Stopovers]
2 FREE STOPOVERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT - 1 IN
EACH DIRECTION
  ONLY AT THE GATEWAY IN IRELAND.

[Transfers]
4 TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT.
      1 PERMITTED IN UNITED STATES/EUROPE IN EACH
     DIRECTION.
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS PERMITTED ON
THE FARE COMPONENT.

[Surcharges]
IF INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2.
  THERE IS NO FUEL SURCHARGE.
OTHERWISE
  MISCELLANEOUS/OTHER SURCHARGE OF USD 95.00 PER
  DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE FOR
  DEPARTURE OF TRANSATLANTIC SECTORS.

[Sales Restrictions]
FARE RULE
TICKETS MUST BE ISSUED ON/BEFORE 09FEB12.
 
GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
       FOR TKTS SOLD IN U.S.--EI IMPOSES A SERVICE
       CHARGE OF USD 35.00 FOR EACH PTA.
       THIS CHARGE IST NOT SUBJECT TO ANY DISCOUNT
       AND CANNOT BE REFUNDED.
       EXTENSION OF TICKET VALIDITY PERMITTED UNDER
       GUIDELINES SET FORTH BY THE CARRIER.  CONTACT
       CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

[Penalties]
FARE RULE
CANCELLATIONS

  ANY TIME
    TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
       FOR TICKET TO HAVE ANY FUTURE VALUE ALL CHANGES
       MUST BE MADE PRIOR TO ORIGINAL FLIGHT SCHEDULED
       DEPARTURE TIME.
       GOVERNMENT TAX REFUND REQUEST MUST BE MADE
       WITHIN ONE MONTH OF THE BOOKED TRAVEL DATE.

CHANGES

  ANY TIME
    CHARGE USD 150.00/EUR 100.00 FOR REISSUE/
REVALIDATION.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
       ANY TIME CHANGES CHARGE USD150.00/EUR 100.00/
       GBP90.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
       -------
       PER PERSON PER DIRECTION. FOR ALL ITINERARIES
       THAT INCLUDE AN ADD-ON FROM IRELAND INTO EUROPE
       THE CHARGE SHALL BE USD 210.00/EUR140.00/GBP120.00
       PER DIRECTION.
       ---
       IF A CHANGE RESULTS IN A FARE OF HIGHER VALUE
       THE ADDITIONAL COLLECTION WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE
       IN FARE PLUS CHANGE FEE. CHARGES APPLY PER
       DIRECTION.
       CHANGES SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY-
       CAN BE MADE UP TO 2 HOURS PRIOR TO THE FLIGHT
       SCHEDULED DEPARTURE TIME.
       ---
       CHANGE FEES/FARES DIFFERENCES ARE NON-REFUNDABLE
       ---
       CHANGES ONLY PERMITTED FROM SAME COUNTRY OF
       ORIGIN ONLY.
       ---
       NAME CHANGES
       NAME CHANGES PERMITTED ON AER LINGUS DIRECT
       SERVICES ONLY FOR A FEE OF USD 157.00/EUR 100.00/
       GBP080.00 PER PERSON AND MAY BE CHANGED UP TO 2
       HOURS PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF JOURNEY.
       NAME MUST BE CHANGED FOR ALL FLIGHTS IN THE
       ITINERARY.
       NAME CHANGES ARE NOT PERMITTED FROM OFFLINE POINTS


      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
       IF A CHANGE RESULTS IN A FARE OF HIGHER VALUE
       THE ADDITIONAL COLLECTION WILL BE THE DIFFERENCE
       IN FARE PLUS CHANGE FEE. CHARGES APPLY PER
       DIRECTION.
       CHANGES SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY-
       CAN BE MADE UP TO 2 HOURS PRIOR TO THE FLIGHT
       SCHEDULED DEPARTURE TIME.
       ---
       CHANGE FEES/FARES DIFFERENCES ARE NON-REFUNDABLE
       ---
       CHANGES ONLY PERMITTED FROM SAME COUNTRY OF
       ORIGIN ONLY.
       ---
       NAME CHANGES
       NAME CHANGES PERMITTED ON AER LINGUS DIRECT
       SERVICES ONLY FOR A FEE OF USD 157.00/EUR 100.00/
       GBP080.00 PER PERSON AND MAY BE CHANGED UP TO 2
       HOURS PRIOR TO COMMENCEMENT OF JOURNEY.
       NAME MUST BE CHANGED FOR ALL FLIGHTS IN THE
       ITINERARY.
       NAME CHANGES ARE NOT PERMITTED FROM OFFLINE POINTS
 
GENERAL RULE - APPLY UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED
CANCELLATIONS

  PER TICKET CHARGE USD 50.00/CAD 65.00 FOR LOST
TICKET.
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
       1-NO SERVICE CHARGE WILL BE IMPOSED FOR MILITARY
       PASSENGERS WHEN TRANSPORTATION IS PAID WITH A U.S.
       GOVERNMENT TRANSPORTATION REQUEST FORM NO. 1169.
       2-NO SERVICE CHARGE WILL BE IMPOSED FOR TICKETS
       LOST WITH THE INITIAL MAILING OF TELEMAIL TICKETS.

[Combinations]
END-ON-END
  END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED. VALIDATE ALL FARE
  COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED WITH NO
  RESTRICTIONS. FARES MUST BE SHOWN SEPARATELY ON THE
  TICKET. TRAVEL MUST BE VIA THE POINT OF COMBINATION.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/CIRCLE TRIPS
  FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
  -TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS/
   CIRCLE TRIPS.
  PROVIDED -
    COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER EI IN
    RULE 2100/2200/2300 IN TARIFF
    IPRA    - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2
    OR ANY RULE IN TARIFF
    FBRINPV - BETWEEN USA/CA-AREA 1/2/3
    TAPVR   - BETWEEN AREA 1-AREA 2/3 AND GUAM-AREA 2.
    COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER RE
    IRELAND IN ANY RULE AND TARIFF.

[Ticket Endorsement]
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED
- NO REFUND PERMITTED - AND - FEES/FARE DIFF APPLY -
IN THE ENDORSEMENT BOX.

[Children Discounts]
CNN/ACCOMPANIED CHILD PSGR 2-11 - CHARGE 90 PERCENT OF
  THE FARE.
  MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
    COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
OR - 1ST INF/INFANT WITHOUT A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 -
       CHARGE 10 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
       MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
         COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.
OR - INS/INFANT WITH A SEAT PSGR UNDER 2 - CHARGE 90
       PERCENT OF THE FARE.
       MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN THE SAME
         COMPARTMENT BY ADULT PSGR 12 OR OLDER.

[Tour Conductor Discounts]
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
       DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
       AT THIS TIME...CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

[Agent Discounts]
      NOTE - TEXT BELOW NOT VALIDATED FOR AUTOPRICING.
       DISCOUNTS APPLY. INFORMATION IS NOT AVAILABLE
       AT THIS TIME. CONTACT CARRIER FOR DETAILS.

[Eligibility]
NO ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS APPLY.

[Blackout Dates]
NO BLACKOUT DATES APPLY.

[Accompanied Travel]
ACCOMPANIED TRAVEL NOT REQUIRED.

[Travel Restrictions]
NO TRAVEL DATE RESTRICTIONS APPLY.

[HIP/Mileage Exceptions]
NO HIP OR MILEAGE EXCEPTIONS APPLY.

[All Other Discounts]
NO DISCOUNTS FOR OTHERS.

[Miscellaneous Provisions]
NO PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Fare By Rule]
NOT APPLICABLE.

[Groups]
NO GROUP PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Tours]
NO TOUR PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Visit Another Country]
NO VISIT ANOTHER COUNTRY PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Deposits]
NO DEPOSIT PROVISIONS APPLY.

[Voluntary Changes]
NO VOLUNTARY CHANGES DATA FOUND.

[Voluntary Refunds]
NO VOLUNTARY REFUNDS DATA FOUND.

[Negotiated Fares]
NOT APPLICABLE.

[International Construction]
NOT A CONSTRUCTED FARE

Last edited by KVS; Feb 2, 2012 at 12:36 pm Reason: Correction
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 2:11 pm
  #4797  
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Originally Posted by NWR
Hello, I searched for this in the thread with no luck. With UA, is there a way to see which award seats are saver and which are standard? For example, XY1 (economy award)...is it a saver or standard? Thank you.
Originally Posted by KVS
There sure is -- please see:
http://Help.KVSTool.com/#Classes
I'm sorry I can't seem to understand. It seems the link you posted only takes me to "Interpreting Results - Fares". I do see some discussion under "Award, Upgrade & Other Special Booking Classes Supported in KVS Tool" for UA where it's indicated that F C Y are "KVS additional" awards (UA MP standard). But I don't see where it's shows how "KVS standard" are listed. Perhaps you could show me and example of how KVS additional and standard awards are displayed in results using [ITA: Awards-Upgrades/UA]?

Thanks so much for your help.
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Old Feb 2, 2012 | 2:41 pm
  #4798  
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Originally Posted by NWR
I'm sorry I can't seem to understand. It seems the link you posted only takes me to "Interpreting Results - Fares".
It shouldn't: http://help.kvstool.com/#Classes

Originally Posted by NWR
I do see some discussion under "Award, Upgrade & Other Special Booking Classes Supported in KVS Tool" for UA
Yes, that is the correct section.

Originally Posted by NWR
where it's indicated that F C Y are "KVS additional" awards (UA MP standard). But I don't see where it's shows how "KVS standard" are listed. Perhaps you could show me and example of how KVS additional and standard awards are displayed in results using [ITA: Awards-Upgrades/UA]?

Thanks so much for your help.
There you go:



[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.4/Diamond - ITA: Awards-Upgrades/UA]
Code:
WAS  Washington Metro DC US = IAD DCA
LON  London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY QQS QQW ZLS ZEP
SAT  17 Mar 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -----------------------
UA         922     IAD   09:37     LHR   21:00     763  0   XY9 NY9 XF1 NF1 XC4 NC9
UA         918     IAD   19:46     LHR   06:55 +1  777  0   XY0 NY0 XF0 NF0 XC0 NC3
UA         924     IAD   23:02     LHR   10:15 +1  777  0   XY0 NY0 XF0 NF0 XC0 NC7
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 1:17 am
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Originally Posted by KVS
Which KVS Tool version are you running?
Version 6.9.4.
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Old Feb 3, 2012 | 8:25 pm
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Originally Posted by uncleflori
I solved it by re-installing KVS but now it's suddenly back: When checking M&M-Awards KVS-Tool returns: Data source error [RD-3]: "Your Flight"
Originally Posted by uncleflori
Version 6.9.4.
Are you sure you have cleared & verified your MSIE Cookie Settings (after closing the KVS Tool)?

If the issue persists, please provide a screenshot via the Contact Form.

The [Awards/M&M] Method continues to function normally, e.g.:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.4/Diamond - Amadeus: Awards/M&M]
Code:
FRA  Frankfurt Metro / Intl DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
NYC  New York Metro NY US = JFK LGA
THU  01 Mar 2012 | 08 Mar 2012 | 1 Seat

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  -------------
LH         400     FRA   10:25     JFK   13:15     346      FS-  CS-  YS+
LH         402     FRA   13:20     EWR   15:45     744      FS-  CS-  YS+
LH         404     FRA   17:30     JFK   20:30     346      FS-  CS+  YS+
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