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Where does the KVS tool get its data and is KVS authorized to provide this data in the manner it is presented?

The tool is known to access a variety of web sites, many in a manner that is not authorized. Please see the next section of this Wiki for a list of sites believed to be accessed and their data access policies (where known).

Additionally, under some conditions the tool appears to access sites via a KVS-operated back end. This means that the tool is not just a 'web browser' that runs via a user's machine. No detailed public information is available about how this works or whether any of this back-end access is authorized.

Websites KVS Accesses and their relevant Terms of Use

http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...verrideServlet
http://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConlin...PreviewServlet
https://book.aircanada.com/pl/AConli...verrideServlet
https://www.aircanada.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/legal/notice.html
Use of our web site for any other purpose, including any commercial use or purpose, is expressly prohibited.
Without limiting the generality of the foregoing, you agree that, in using or accessing our website, you shall not commit or participate in any of the following acts or actions, each of which is expressly prohibited under this User Agreement:
directly or indirectly, use or access, or encourage, solicit, permit, facilitate, aid, assist or abet, including, but not limited to, the selling, licensing, distribution or provision to any person of any means that permit, the use or access, or agree to provide the use or access, of our website through any manual process or any automatic, electronic or technical device, including but not limited to automated scripts, robots, crawls, screen scrapers, web "bots", deep-links, indexes, spiders, click-spams, macro programs, or any other device, program, software, system, algorithm, methodology or technology, now known or hereinafter discovered, that performs the same or a similar function, in order to, without limitation: "data mine"; "screen scrape"; data process; access, extract, copy, distribute, aggregate or acquire information; generate impressions or clicks; input or store information; search or generate searches; or manipulate or monitor any portion or content of our website;

http://data.flight24.com/flights/
Terms of Use:
http://www.flightradar24.com/terms-and-conditions
Websites information and Services are provided for personal, non-commercial use only. Permission is granted to temporarily download one copy of the materials (information or software) on Flightradar24s web site for personal, non-commercial transitory viewing only. This is the grant of a license, not a transfer of title, and under this license you may not:

Modify or copy the materials;
Use the materials for any commercial purpose, or for any public display (commercial or non-commercial);
Attempt to decompile or reverse engineer any software contained on Flightradar24's web site;
Remove any copyright or other proprietary notations from the materials; or
Transfer the materials to another person or "mirror" the materials on any other server.

This license shall automatically terminate if you violate any of these restrictions and may be terminated by Flightradar24 at any time. Upon terminating your viewing of these materials or upon the termination of this license, you must destroy any downloaded materials in your possession whether in electronic or printed format.

http://data.seatexpert.com/tpi/find.php
Terms of Use:

http://plane.lan.com/cgi-bin/recibo_...bo_eticket.cgi
Terms of Use:
http://www.lan.com/en_us/sitio_perso...-use/about-us/
You may use the information on our site solely for non-commercial purposes, and any use or modification of the website contents is not permitted.

http://reservations.usairways.com/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://reservations.usairways.com/en-US/aboutus/site_usage_policy.html
Content may be used for non-commercial personal use only, and you agree not to modify, copy, transmit, distribute, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, sell or otherwise transfer any information, software, products or services obtained from the Site without prior written permission from US Airways. You agree not to use any automatic device, manual process, or scraping to monitor or copy the Site or the content contained therein for any purpose without US Airways prior written permission. You agree not to use any device, software or routine to interfere with or attempt to interfere with the proper working of the Site or any activities conducted on the Site.

https://book.austrian.com/app/fb.fly
Terms of Use:
http://www.austrian.com/Info/LegalRegulations/WebsiteTerms.aspx?sc_lang=en&cc=AT
2. Proprietary rights
All trademark rights, copyrights, database rights and other intellectual property rights to the contents of the Austrian-website, (as well as the organization and layout of the website), together with the underlying software code rest, either with Austrian or with its licensors. You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Austrian-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Austrian.

3. Permissible use
All Austrian-website online services (including the booking machine) are provided solely for the purpose of enabling you to check the availability of goods or services relating to your journey (the timetable, for example), make legitimate reservations, use our online check-in or transact other business with suppliers. You may only use the website in accordance with these terms and conditions and for the legally permitted purposes described above. In particular, you indicate your agreement to the following:
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3.5 You may not reproduce information from the Austrian-website for commercial purposes. This also includes providing prices for Austrian flights on another website or another online server. In particular you may not copy, distribute, in other way use or reproduce discarded content from the Austrian-website with the help of 'robots', other search machine technologies or through other automatic mechanisms.

https://booking.qatarairways.com/qri...Booking.action
Terms of Use:

https://book.tam.com.br/TAM/dyn/air/...ng/retrievePNR
Terms of Use:

https://classic.checkmytrip.com/plne...ievePNR.action
Terms of Use:
(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://en.aegeanair.com
Terms of Use:

https://eservice.evaair.com
Terms of Use:

https://flymas.mobi/itravel/viewBooking.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://fly.rj.com/MyBookings/Home/EN/Default.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://skyvector.com/airport/
Terms of Use:

https://m.aeroflot.ru/b/info/pnr/load
Terms of Use:

https://mm.alitalia.com/GB_EN/booking/apvsearch.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://mobile1.emirates.com/myb/review.xhtml
Terms of Use:

https://myb.s7.ru/getMyBooking.action
Terms of Use:

https://mytripandmore.com/Itinerary.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://mytripandmore.com/TermsAndConditions.aspx
Except as expressly permitted by these Terms, you may not:
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9. use any "robot", "spider" or other automatic device, software, program, algorithm, routine, methodology, or any manual process or functionality:
...to monitor, assemble, analyse, index, copy, transmit, distribute, transfer, or link to any of the pages, data, materials, or content available on the Site,

https://pilotweb.nas.faa.gov/PilotWe...yICAOAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://prefunds.aa.com/refunds/receipt
https://www.aa.com/reservation/findReservationSubmit.do
Terms of Use:
https://www.aa.com/i18n/footer/siteUsage.jsp
Intellectual property notifications
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D. American Airlines owns or uses by permission all software contained on the Site, including without limitation all HTML code and Active X controls. Copyright and other laws and international treaty provisions protect this software. The law expressly prohibits any modification, redistribution, or reproduction of the software, and such actions could result in severe civil and criminal penalties. American Airlines will seek and support prosecuting violators to the maximum extent possible.
E. You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of the Site for public or commercial purposes. Nothing on the Site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.
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Limitations on your use:
You agree that you will not Misuse the Site. "Misuse" includes, but is not limited to, using the Site to do any of the following:
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L. Copy or create derivative works from, display, distribute, license, perform, publish, recreate, reproduce, sell, transfer, or transmit any information, products, services, or software obtained by, from, or through the Site.
M. Monitor or copy any Content by using any manual process, or any robot, spider, or other automatic device, without first obtaining American Airlines' prior written consent.

https://raw.github.com/opentraveldat...i_airlines.csv
Terms of Use:

https://secure.jetairways.com/PlatformID/Identify.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://tickets.airtran.com/SeatAvailability.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.southwest.com/html/about-...ons/index.html
Prohibited Activities

You may not copy, display, distribute, download, license, modify, publish, re-post, reproduce, reuse, sell, transmit, use to create a derivative work, or otherwise use the content of this site for public or commercial purposes without our express written permission. Nothing on this site shall be construed to confer any grant or license of any intellectual property rights, whether by estoppel, by implication, or otherwise.

You may not modify, re-render, frame, mirror, truncate, add to, inject, filter or change the order of the information contained on any page of the Southwest Airlines sites, including, without limitation, by any way of reproducing Southwest Airlines or SWABiz web pages or Company information on any other web site without our express written permission.

You may not copy, derive, edit, translate, decompile, reverse engineer, modify, use, or reproduce any code or source relating to our sites, including without limitation, any service or product Southwest offers.

You may not cause to appear any pop-up, pop-under, exit windows, expanding buttons, banners advertisement, or anything else which minimizes, covers, or otherwise inhibits the full display of the Southwest Airlines sites.

You may not use any deep-link, page-scrape, robot, crawl, index, spider, click spam, macro programs, Internet agent, or other automatic device, program, algorithm or methodology which does the same things, to use, access, copy, acquire information, generate impressions or clicks, input information, store information, search, generate searches, or monitor any portion of the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information.
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You may not disguise the origin of information transmitted to, from, or through the Southwest Airlines sites. You may not circumvent any measures implemented by Southwest Airlines aimed at preventing violations of the Use Agreement. You may not violate the restrictions in any robot exclusion header.

When you use the Southwest Airlines sites or Company information for an authorized purpose, you must include all proprietary notices without changing, hiding or deleting them.

You may not engage in any conduct that is, or that Southwest Airlines deems to be, in violation of this Use Agreement.

https://wftc3.e-travel.com
Terms of Use:

https://wtrweb.worldtracer.aero/WorldTracerWeb/pax.do
Terms of Use:

https://www121.jal.co.jp/JmbWeb/JR/S...MileCalc_en.do
Terms of Use:

https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/ETDisplay.tk
https://www4.thy.com/mybookings/getPnr.tk
Terms of Use:

https://www.airberlin.com/en-DE/cockpit
Terms of Use:

https://www.airfrance.fr/cgi-bin/AF/...chPnrAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.alaskaair.com/booking/reservationlookup
Terms of Use:

https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
https://www.bookonline.saudiairlines...verride.action
Terms of Use:

https://www.britishairways.com/trave...g/public/en_gb
Terms of Use:

https://www.checkmytrip.com/CMTSERVLET
Terms of Use:
https://www.checkmytrip.com/cmt/apf/...&SITE=NCMTNCMT
3. Licence restrictions

3.1 Except as expressly set out in this EULA or as permitted by any local law, you agree:
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(D) not to use any automated system or software to extract data from the Application, Documents or Services for commercial purposes (such as screen scraping);

https://www.delta.com/mytrips/findPnr.action
http://www.delta.com/ism/SeatMapDisplay.action
http://www.delta.com/shared/components/blank.jsp
Terms of Use:

https://www.finnair.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.flysas.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.iberia.com/web/retrievePNR.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.lot.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.lufthansa.com
Terms of Use:
http://www.lufthansa.com/online/port...d=2016866&l=en

2. Proprietary rights
...You may not, either in whole or in part, copy, modify, distribute or use or reproduce in other form contents of the Lufthansa-website, or the underlying software code, without the prior written consent of Deutsche Lufthansa AG.
https://www.routehappy.com/
Terms of Use:

https://www.swiss.com
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripforyou.net/t4u/PTopAction.do
Terms of Use:

https://www.tripple.jp
Terms of Use:

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/app...n/default.aspx
Terms of Use:
https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/legal.aspx This website is for the User's personal, noncommercial use only. User agrees not to modify, copy, alter, distribute, transmit, display, perform, reproduce, publish, license, create derivative works from, transfer, or sell any information, software, products or services obtained from this website without Uniteds prior written permission. User agrees not to use any robot, spider, other automatic device, or manual process to monitor or copy this website or the content contained therein or for any other unauthorized purpose without Uniteds prior written permission. ... United reserves the right to investigate any illegal and/or unauthorized use of this website, including, but not limited to, unauthorized framing of this website or unauthorized use of any robot, spider or other automated device, and to take appropriate legal action, including, without limitation, civil, criminal and injunctive redress.

https://www.viewtrip.com/GetItin.aspx
Terms of Use:

https://www.virginamerica.com/book/ow/a1/
Terms of Use:

https://www.virgin-atlantic.com/en/g...ndBooking.next
Terms of Use:

https://www.virtuallythere.com/new/reservations.html
Terms of Use:

http://weather.noaa.gov/weather/current/
Terms of Use:

http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi
Terms of Use:

http://www.airframes.org/fleet/
Terms of Use:

http://www.cathaypacific.com/cx/en_H...oking-now.html
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightradar24.com/
Terms of Use:

http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...ingByFlight.do
http://www.FlightStats.com/go/Flight...tusByFlight.do
Terms of Use:

http://www.flightview.com/TravelTool...eryResults.asp
http://www.flightview.com/TravelTools/viewairport.asp
Terms of Use:

http://www.gcmap.com/airport/
http://www.gcmap.com/mapui
Terms of Use:
http://www.gcmap.com/faq/using
Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps on my web page?
A: You may use maps generated by the Great Circle Mapper on non-commercial web pages (q.v. commericial use below) so long as you do not profit from them and you include the following credit on pages which include maps:
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Q: May I use the Great Circle Mapper's maps for commercial sites or publications?
A: Please write to Karl L. Swartz regarding terms for commercial use of the maps.

http://www.iata.org/about/members/Pa...line-list.aspx
Terms of Use:
http://www.iata.org/Pages/terms.aspx
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The content on this Site is for your personal use only within the organization or entity to which you are attached as applicable, and it is not intended for commercial exploitation unless expressly agreed in writing by IATA through a duly authorized representative. IATA authorizes you to download or reproduce selected materials at this Site only for your personal, non-commercial use, in the ordinary course of business provided that you retain all copyright and other proprietary notices contained in the original materials on any copies of the materials and that the title or database brand name and IATA name is stated as the source.

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http://www.itn.net/cgi/get
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http://www.kenya-airways.com/kqbook.aspx
Terms of Use:

http://www.myairlines.ru
Terms of Use:

http://www.qantas.com.au/regions/do/dyn/checkmytrip
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatexpert.com/multiple_results.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatguru.com/ajax/findseatmap.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatmaestro.com/airlines-...eckmytrip.html
http://www.seatmaestro.com/themes/de...te_airline.php
Terms of Use:

http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/Airline
http://www.seatplans.com/ajax/airports-and-city
http://www.seatplans.com/find-and-compare/
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by neuro0
The following error keep coming up:

Unsupported route/engine error

I was doing a search on HKG - SFO.

any idea?

Sames thing here, doing a search HKG-JFK all classed.
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 12:42 pm
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Originally Posted by russrjbr
Hi, I'm very interested in using the tool but before place a financial commitment I'd like to try it first (diamond) even if its for a day or two to see if it attends my demands.
Welcome to FT -- YGM!
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 12:44 pm
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Originally Posted by neuro0
The following error keep coming up:

Unsupported route/engine error

I was doing a search on HKG - SFO.

any idea?
Originally Posted by gsforfree
Sames thing here, doing a search HKG-JFK all classed.
The datalink between JL & CX is currently down -- please try again later or use the [Awards/OneWorld] / [Awards/BA-OneWorld] / [Awards/CX] Methods instead.
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 3:39 pm
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Old Feb 10, 2012 | 7:04 pm
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CX/KA reservation system is down this weekend(thus affecting KVS inquiries)...I got an email from them last week preparing me for this outage...states:

On 11 and 12 February, Cathay Pacific and Dragonair will upgrade their passenger reservation system to ensure they can continue meeting their passengers' needs in the future.

During the transition, it will be necessary for them to temporarily suspend some of their services, including their websites www.cathaypacific.com and www.dragonair.com which will go entirely offline worldwide at 3pm on 11 February, Hong Kong time (GMT+8). They will be brought back online in stages throughout the day on 12 February, and the majority of services on the site will be available by approximately 8pm that day.

What will happen during this period (3pm Hong Kong time, 11 February, to approximately 8pm Hong Kong time, 12 February)

Reservations and ticketing services will not be available, so it will not be possible to make new bookings or change existing bookings, including redemption bookings or upgrades on
Cathay Pacific , Dragonair, and all other Asia Miles partner airlines.
Online and mobile services will not be available, including online booking,online redemption, online ticket change, online check-in, printing eTickets, boarding passes, flight information, Advance Seat Reservation, special meal requests, and others.
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Old Feb 11, 2012 | 5:13 pm
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Originally Posted by Dorian
As per the Error Message, the [Galileo: ETR] Engine was temporarily unavailable.

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.5/Diamond - Galileo: Availability/ETR/JP]
Code:
YVR  Vancouver Metro / Intl BC CA = YVR CXH [CYVR]
HKG  Hong Kong Intl HK [VHHH]
SAT  18 Feb 2012

Carrier    Flight  From  Depart    To    Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
---------  ------  ----  --------  ----  --------  ---  --  ------------
AC         7       YVR   11:40     HKG   17:20 +1  77W  0   J1
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 9:50 am
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hi guys,

i am new to KVS Tool but I am very interested in fare routing rules. Can anyone tell me why in 90% of situations these rules are not available?

cheers.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 12:00 pm
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Originally Posted by abdon
i am new to KVS Tool but I am very interested in fare routing rules. Can anyone tell me why in 90% of situations these rules are not available?
Could you please provide a specific Route/Fare Basis?
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 12:21 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
Could you please provide a specific Route/Fare Basis?
sure, eg. :
FRA-NYC: OL7E6J

generally, the cheapest fares don't have fare routing rules available.
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 1:58 pm
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Originally Posted by abdon
sure, eg. :
FRA-NYC: OL7E6J
All AA Fares on that route are MPM-based:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.5/Diamond - Routing Rules: FRA-NYC/AA/OLE7Q7G1/116 USD]
Code:
FRANYC-AA 01MAR12      *RULE DISPLAY*     TARIFF 0001 RULE J699 
* ADD APPLICABLE TAX * FED INSP FEES *                          
   -FARE BASIS         EUR       NUC                PTC  FT  GI 
OLE7Q7G1        R     88.00    117.93               ADT  EX  AT 
OLE7Q7G1CH      R     88.00    117.93               CNN  EX  AT 
OLE7Q7G1CH      R     88.00    117.93               INS  EX  AT 
OLE7Q7G1IN      R      9.00     12.06               INF  EX  AT 
OLE7Q7G1        R     88.00    117.93               UNN  EX  AT 
OLE7Q7G1        R     88.00    117.93               SRC  EX  AT 
BOOKING CODES        O                                          
PFCS MAY VARY BY RTG                                            
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - XAN - APEX NONREFUNDABLE                   
MPM - AT  4621 VIA NORTH ATLANTIC
---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING MPM  MPM TRVL PERMITTED
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Old Feb 13, 2012 | 8:04 pm
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Originally Posted by former230
CX/KA reservation system is down this weekend(thus affecting KVS inquiries)...I got an email from them last week preparing me for this outage...states:
Update has been posted in the http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/catha...l#post18010448 thread.
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 8:39 pm
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Originally Posted by abdon
sure, eg. :
FRA-NYC: OL7E6J

generally, the cheapest fares don't have fare routing rules available.
Originally Posted by KVS
All AA Fares on that route are MPM-based:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.5/Diamond - Routing Rules: FRA-NYC/AA/OLE7Q7G1/116 USD]
Code:
FRANYC-AA 01MAR12      *RULE DISPLAY*     TARIFF 0001 RULE J699 
* ADD APPLICABLE TAX * FED INSP FEES *                          
   -FARE BASIS         EUR       NUC                PTC  FT  GI 
OLE7Q7G1        R     88.00    117.93               ADT  EX  AT 
OLE7Q7G1CH      R     88.00    117.93               CNN  EX  AT 
OLE7Q7G1CH      R     88.00    117.93               INS  EX  AT 
OLE7Q7G1IN      R      9.00     12.06               INF  EX  AT 
OLE7Q7G1        R     88.00    117.93               UNN  EX  AT 
OLE7Q7G1        R     88.00    117.93               SRC  EX  AT 
BOOKING CODES        O                                          
PFCS MAY VARY BY RTG                                            
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - XAN - APEX NONREFUNDABLE                   
MPM - AT  4621 VIA NORTH ATLANTIC
---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING MPM  MPM TRVL PERMITTED
Here's another where the routing rules can't be pulled up

LAX-PHL SA14FN
LAX-PHL SAG7GS

Both on either UA or CO

I get "No fare in system"
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 8:50 pm
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Originally Posted by jasonvr
Here's another where the routing rules can't be pulled up

LAX-PHL SA14FN
LAX-PHL SAG7GS

Both on either UA or CO

I get "No fare in system"
Likewise, all UA/CO S-Class Fares on that route use the same Routing #947, so you can just retrieve the Routing Rules for any other S-Class Fare:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.5/Diamond - Routing Rules: LAX-PHL/UA/SE213FN/263 USD]
Code:
LAXPHL-UA 01MAR12      *RULE DISPLAY*     TARIFF 0011 RULE 70F2 
   -FARE BASIS         USD       TAX       TOTAL    PTC  FT     
SE213FN         R    515.35     38.65      554.00   ADT  EX     
SE213FN         R    515.35     38.65      554.00   CNN  EX     
SE213FN         R      0.00      0.00        0.00   INF  EX     
SE213FN         R    515.35     38.65      554.00   INS  EX     
SE213FN         R    515.35     38.65      554.00   JNN  EX     
SE213FN         R      0.00      0.00        0.00   JNF  EX     
SE213FN         R    515.35     38.65      554.00   JNS  EX     
BOOKING CODES        S                                          
PFCS MAY VARY BY RTG                                            
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - XPN - INSTANT PURCHASE NONREFUNDABLE
---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING  947 *** TRAVEL MUST NOT BE NONSTOP ***                 
         947 FROM-TO  LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-CLE/CHI/EWR/WAS/PHL/      
                      CLT-PHL*                                  
             FROM-TO  LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-PHL*                      
             FROM-TO  LAX-SFO/LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-CLE/CHI/EWR/      
                      WAS/PHL/CLT-PHL*                          
             FROM-TO  LAX-SFO/LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-PHL*
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Old Feb 14, 2012 | 10:16 pm
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Originally Posted by KVS
Likewise, all UA/CO S-Class Fares on that route use the same Routing #947, so you can just retrieve the Routing Rules for any other S-Class Fare:

[KVS Availability Tool 6.9.5/Diamond - Routing Rules: LAX-PHL/UA/SE213FN/263 USD]
Code:
LAXPHL-UA 01MAR12      *RULE DISPLAY*     TARIFF 0011 RULE 70F2 
   -FARE BASIS         USD       TAX       TOTAL    PTC  FT     
SE213FN         R    515.35     38.65      554.00   ADT  EX     
SE213FN         R    515.35     38.65      554.00   CNN  EX     
SE213FN         R      0.00      0.00        0.00   INF  EX     
SE213FN         R    515.35     38.65      554.00   INS  EX     
SE213FN         R    515.35     38.65      554.00   JNN  EX     
SE213FN         R      0.00      0.00        0.00   JNF  EX     
SE213FN         R    515.35     38.65      554.00   JNS  EX     
BOOKING CODES        S                                          
PFCS MAY VARY BY RTG                                            
INDUSTRY FARE TYPE - XPN - INSTANT PURCHASE NONREFUNDABLE
---------------------------------------------------------------

ROUTING  947 *** TRAVEL MUST NOT BE NONSTOP ***                 
         947 FROM-TO  LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-CLE/CHI/EWR/WAS/PHL/      
                      CLT-PHL*                                  
             FROM-TO  LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-PHL*                      
             FROM-TO  LAX-SFO/LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-CLE/CHI/EWR/      
                      WAS/PHL/CLT-PHL*                          
             FROM-TO  LAX-SFO/LAX-CHI/DEN/HOU-PHL*
How does one tell that all S fares use the same routing (or even specifically routing 947)?
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Old Feb 15, 2012 | 12:36 am
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I have a query regarding KVS if a regular user would be so kind....

I need to book a flight from LHR to SEA at some point during mid Sept, staying for around 16 days or so.
The dates are in no way fixed so I can work around a good flight price.

Ideally I'd like to buy a WT+ seat and upgrade to J using my Avios, but BA's site is currently showing no upgrade availability to SEA on any day.

Can KVS give me the information I need to make a booking at the best price possible given the date parameters?
I have no issue in paying for the software, but there's not much point if it can't do what I need.

Thanks in advance.
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