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kryten22uk Oct 6, 2008 11:30 am

I am searching SA awards, and they show FS@ CS@ YS@.

Looking on the FAQ, this means On Request but for NH/OZ only. So seeing as i'm getting this for SA is it something different, or has SA gone On Request too?

KVS Oct 6, 2008 11:57 am


Originally Posted by kryten22uk (Post 10478221)
I am searching SA awards, and they show FS@ CS@ YS@.

Looking on the FAQ, this means On Request but for NH/OZ only. So seeing as i'm getting this for SA is it something different, or has SA gone On Request too?

Pls read the FAQ to the end :):
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...3#post10478003

KVS Oct 6, 2008 11:59 am


Originally Posted by bernyx (Post 10476854)
Can someone tell me which these are for KE, and if any are for award on the KVS tool.


Originally Posted by bernyx (Post 10476860)
also for northwest , thanks

Pls refer to http://FAQ.KVSTool.com/

kryten22uk Oct 6, 2008 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 10478376)

Damn, I did read the FAQ and saw that but for some reason I didnt read the "non" infront of NH/OZ. :rolleyes:

jarusoba Oct 9, 2008 11:25 am

I'm trying to book a trip PVG to YYZ on April 13, 2009. And would like to check the I class availability. AC88 non-stop is showing on the AC.com website but I cannot see it in KVS. I can't see it in seatcounter.com either. Why is that? Yes, I know I can call AC but I would rather do all the homework before calling them.

KVS Oct 9, 2008 12:53 pm


Originally Posted by jarusoba (Post 10494324)
I'm trying to book a trip PVG to YYZ on April 13, 2009. And would like to check the I class availability. AC88 non-stop is showing on the AC.com website but I cannot see it in KVS. I can't see it in seatcounter.com either. Why is that? Yes, I know I can call AC but I would rather do all the homework before calling them.

That flight is not scheduled to operated on Mondays:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.0/Platinum - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]
Code:

PVG  Shanghai PuDong CN [ZSPD]
YYZ  Toronto Pearson Int'l ON CA [CYYZ]
MON  13 Apr 2009 - 20 Apr 2009

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C  St  Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Effect | Ending | Exceptions
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------------------------------------------------------------
AC        88    PVG  17:10    YYZ  18:50    77L  0    --3-5-7    13:40      -      -  01 Apr  29 Apr
AC        26    PVG  15:45    YYZ  21:30    763  1    12-4-6-    17:45      -      -  13 Apr  20 Apr


jarusoba Oct 10, 2008 7:28 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 10494888)
That flight is not scheduled to operated on Mondays:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.0/Platinum - Amadeus: Timetable/NL-BCDF]

So I presume there is a bug in AC's website. I can see that flight in their website.

KVS Oct 10, 2008 11:53 am


Originally Posted by jarusoba (Post 10498948)
So I presume there is a bug in AC's website. I can see that flight in their website.

You may wish to raise this question in the dedicated AC forum ...

jarusoba Oct 10, 2008 12:21 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 10500498)
You may wish to raise this question in the dedicated AC forum ...

It seems that they have fixed that in AC.com now. It is not showing that flight any more. So KVS is more accurate than AC.com^

delanotre Oct 13, 2008 1:06 pm

Impossible to see the fares between PAR (or LON) and Asia transitting US
for example CDG-EWG-HKG (which is a regular flight with CO and can be booked on Co website) can not be listed on Sabre fares/DotRes or Zuj (independantly of the oct. 13 issue )
pop up with "data source error" and "no fares found"
any solution?
thanks

KVS Oct 13, 2008 1:28 pm


Originally Posted by delanotre (Post 10513611)
Impossible to see the fares between PAR (or LON) and Asia transitting US
for example CDG-EWG-HKG (which is a regular flight with CO and can be booked on Co website) can not be listed on Sabre fares/DotRes or Zuj (independantly of the oct. 13 issue )
pop up with "data source error" and "no fares found"
any solution?
thanks

CO does not publish any fares between PAR and HKG; there are 2 separate fares: PAR-EWR & EWR-HKG.

delanotre Oct 14, 2008 12:12 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 10513711)
CO does not publish any fares between PAR and HKG; there are 2 separate fares: PAR-EWR & EWR-HKG.

These fares are published on their site, in one fare with a stop and I have yet booked with AF agency. So, is it only available for professionnals?

2) What is exactly IATA fares included in the last updated version?
The maximum fare available?



[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.1/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/TVN/CA]
Code:

LON  London Metro UK = LHR LGW STN LTN LCY
LAX  Los Angeles Int'l CA US [KLAX]
RT  Oct-Sep

Carrier  From  To  Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
YY        LON    LAX      950  EUR            Sun  6M  YHAP4M
YY        LON    LAX    1203  EUR            Sun  6M  YHAP4M
YY        LON    LAX    1242  EUR            Sun  6M  YHAP4M
YY        LON    LAX    4223  EUR                      Y
YY        LON    LAX    8872  EUR                      C
YY        LON    LAX    10952  EUR                      F

3) I do not find RTW fares.

KVS Oct 14, 2008 2:03 pm


Originally Posted by delanotre (Post 10519016)
These fares are published on their site, in one fare with a stop and I have yet booked with AF agency. So, is it only available for professionnals?

No, the site is using 2 separate fares as I have described above.


Originally Posted by delanotre (Post 10519016)
2) What is exactly IATA fares included in the last updated version?
The maximum fare available?

Generic YY fares are published by the IATA on behalf of its members and are applicable to flights of all participating carriers. To book a ticket using these fares, it would be best to use the services of an experienced Travel Agent, who will be able to confirm whether a desired carrier actually participates in that fare and the booking class(es) to be used.


Originally Posted by delanotre (Post 10519016)
3) I do not find RTW fares.

RTW fares are not currently supported.

seanburke Oct 15, 2008 9:37 am

H class and Air Canada Flight passes
 
Hi all. I'm contemplating purchasing some flight passes from Air Canada, but i'm concerned about ticket availability. The terms of the passes state that they are H booking class tickets. I'm not quite sure if that's good or bad. When I look up flights for today, I see this, but I'm unsure what it means.
Could someone help me understand what I may be getting myself into!

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.1/Lite - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]

YYT St John's NL CA [CYYT]
EWR New York Newark Liberty Int'l NJ US [KEWR]
WED 15 Oct 2008

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ----
-> AC/QK 8640 YYZ 18:30 EWR 20:00 CRA 0 J4 C4 Z4 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H8 V7 Q7 L5 A0 S0 R9 K8 N7 G7 P5 E0 T0

zorn Oct 15, 2008 10:06 am


Originally Posted by seanburke (Post 10523753)
Hi all. I'm contemplating purchasing some flight passes from Air Canada, but i'm concerned about ticket availability. The terms of the passes state that they are H booking class tickets. I'm not quite sure if that's good or bad. When I look up flights for today, I see this, but I'm unsure what it means.
Could someone help me understand what I may be getting myself into!

You've asked several questions. First I will explain what this means:


Code:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.1/Lite - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]

YYT  St John's NL CA [CYYT]
EWR  New York Newark Liberty Int'l NJ US [KEWR]
WED  15 Oct 2008

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ----
 -> AC/QK 8640  YYZ  18:30    EWR  20:00    CRA  0    J4 C4 Z4 Y9 M9 U9 B9 H8 V7 Q7 L5 A0 S0 R9 K8 N7 G7 P5 E0 T0

It means the following.

"At this instant:

J4 - AC is willing to sell 4 seats for the Executive Class cabin, and it is willing to selling them at the J fare level.
C4 - AC is willing to sell 4 seats in Executive Class at the C fare level.
Z4 - AC is willing to sell 4 seats in Executive Class at the Z fare level.

Y9 - AC is willing to sell 9 or more seats for the Economy Class cabin, and it is willing to sell them at the Y fare level.
M9 - will sell 9 or more at the M fare level
U9 - and so on
B9 - and so on
H8 - AC is willing to sell 8 seats at the H fare level
V7 - or 7 seats at the V level
Q7 L5 A0 S0 - and so on until it will not sell any at A or S fare level.
R9 K8 N7 G7 P5 E0 T0 - and so on

and all this could change at any instant."

Note that they will not tell you the number over 9 in a cabin or a fare level.

Now, are H fares good or bad? The AC fare structure in North America looks like this:


J C Z - Executive
Y M U - Latitude
B H V Q L A S - Tango Plus
R K N G P E T - Tango


Within each of the four categories the fare rules are identical. The fares get cheaper as you move to the right, and the number of seats available for sale will not increase as you move to the right within each row.

In my experience the numbers of seats available tend to be equal for the last two rows (B=R, H=K, V=N) etc.

H is the second highest Tango Plus fare level, so essentially the second highest of the nonrefundable fares. It is a fairly high fare level and availability should be good. You might have trouble getting on a popular flight on short notice but that's about it.


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