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gleff Sep 6, 2008 7:24 am


Originally Posted by bernyx (Post 10321506)
I'm trying to get a skyteam award from Delta on Korean air and I'm tired of calling all the time.
If I contribute to KVS for the platinum membership, will I be able to see exactly what Delta would see?

IIRC KE awards aren't displahyed on the NW Japan site and thus don't come up using the KVS tool.

bernyx Sep 6, 2008 8:24 am

Is there any other tool anybody knows of to find KE availibility or at least get an idea of it?

FlyerGoldII Sep 7, 2008 5:05 am

1. I would like to determine MPM using the KVS tool - can one determine the Aeroplan MPM between 2 different cities? Are the MPM values between any given city pair the same or different for different frequent flyer programs?

2. When did Sabre:dotres with Canada as POS become nonfunctional for the KVS tool?

FlyerGoldII Sep 7, 2008 5:11 am

It is quite inconvenient to try to find award availability to Switzerland, without having access to such information for LX, using the KVS tool. Do you think a future version of the KVS tool (or the ANA tool) will be able to access such data?

gleff Sep 7, 2008 5:48 am

Here's how to check LX award availability online:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=858553

bernyx Sep 7, 2008 7:09 am


Originally Posted by gleff (Post 10321596)
IIRC KE awards aren't displayed on the NW Japan site and thus don't come up using the KVS tool.

Will KE seat availability come up? (to purchase) and would this give you an idea?
(in the systems other that apollo)

tomh009 Sep 7, 2008 8:41 am


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 10325468)
1. I would like to determine MPM using the KVS tool - can one determine the Aeroplan MPM between 2 different cities? Are the MPM values between any given city pair the same or different for different frequent flyer programs?

IATA publishes the MPM values ... you can buy the 2008 mileage manual from IATA for a mere $3264!

KVS Sep 7, 2008 9:47 am


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 10325468)
2. When did Sabre:dotres with Canada as POS become nonfunctional for the KVS tool?

You have already asked the same question at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...postcount=2013

KVS Sep 7, 2008 9:49 am


Originally Posted by bernyx (Post 10325682)
Will KE seat availability come up? (to purchase) and would this give you an idea?
(in the systems other that apollo)

Yes.

KVS Sep 7, 2008 9:52 am


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 10325475)
It is quite inconvenient to try to find award availability to Switzerland, without having access to such information for LX, using the KVS tool. Do you think a future version of the KVS tool (or the ANA tool) will be able to access such data?

There are technical incompatibility issues with LX's systems that prevent ANA from accessing their award availability. If and when those issues are resolved, LX award availability should become accessible via the KVS Tool.

FlyerGoldII Sep 9, 2008 6:52 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 10326180)
You have already asked the same question at http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...postcount=2013

Actually, this is a corollary to that question. That question asked why sabre:dotres with POS identified as Canada, is not working. This question asks when did the specific function of the KVS tool stop working.

PS-Or you can say that I intentionally (with a different wording) ask the same question, to make sure that people who surf the Aeroplan forum are aware of this new change. I did not, by reviewing this thread, see that this had been mentioned before.

FlyerGoldII Sep 9, 2008 6:54 pm


Originally Posted by tomh009 (Post 10325932)
IATA publishes the MPM values ... you can buy the 2008 mileage manual from IATA for a mere $3264!

So I can presume that relatively economical web based tools such as KVS or expert flyer do not offer that function?

ExpertFlyer Voice Sep 9, 2008 9:28 pm


Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII (Post 10341519)
So I can presume that relatively economical web based tools such as KVS or expert flyer do not offer that function?

ExpertFlyer does indeed show the MPM for mileage based fares using our Routing Rules function, here is an example of the result:

---------
Routing Details
Search: Departing YYZ on 10/09/08 for NRT
Fare basis code C7XJEX
Flying AC

MPM FARE - ROUTE NOT APPLICABLE
MAXIMUM PERMITTED MILEAGE IS 7708
---------

Here is a sample result for a route based fare:

---------
Routing Details
Search: Departing YYZ on 10/09/08 for NRT
Fare basis code N0M0WCJ
Flying AC

YTO-TYO THU-09OCT08 AC
TAXES/FEES NOT INCLUDED
ADULT FARES
CX FARE FARE C AP MIN/ SEASONS...... MR GI DT
USD BASIS MAX
17 AC 1163.00R N0M0WCJ N | /12M R PA D

SPECIFIED ROUTE: 0301
YTO-YXE/YWG/YQR-YYC/YEA/YYJ-YVR-TYO
YTO-YXE/YWG/YQR-YYC/YEA/YYJ-YVR-OSA(AC/NH/JL)TYO
YTO-YWG-YYC/YEA/YYJ-YVR-TYO
YTO-YWG-YYC/YEA/YYJ-YVR-OSA(AC/NH/JL)TYO
--------

This is in addition to the Fare Rules.

Hope this helps,
EFV

getaround Sep 9, 2008 9:54 pm


Originally Posted by ExpertFlyer Voice (Post 10342268)
ExpertFlyer does indeed show the MPM for mileage based fares using our Routing Rules function, here is an example of the result:

---------
Routing Details
Search: Departing YYZ on 10/09/08 for NRT
Fare basis code C7XJEX
Flying AC

MPM FARE - ROUTE NOT APPLICABLE
MAXIMUM PERMITTED MILEAGE IS 7708
---------

Here is a sample result for a route based fare:

---------
Routing Details
Search: Departing YYZ on 10/09/08 for NRT
Fare basis code N0M0WCJ
Flying AC

YTO-TYO THU-09OCT08 AC
TAXES/FEES NOT INCLUDED
ADULT FARES
CX FARE FARE C AP MIN/ SEASONS...... MR GI DT
USD BASIS MAX
17 AC 1163.00R N0M0WCJ N | /12M R PA D

SPECIFIED ROUTE: 0301
YTO-YXE/YWG/YQR-YYC/YEA/YYJ-YVR-TYO
YTO-YXE/YWG/YQR-YYC/YEA/YYJ-YVR-OSA(AC/NH/JL)TYO
YTO-YWG-YYC/YEA/YYJ-YVR-TYO
YTO-YWG-YYC/YEA/YYJ-YVR-OSA(AC/NH/JL)TYO
--------

This is in addition to the Fare Rules.

Hope this helps,
EFV

EXPERTFLYER - When will you have a refer a buddy discount? :)

virtualtroy Sep 10, 2008 12:23 pm

Kheria / Agra (AGR) isn't recognised as an airport by the tool.


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