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seanburke Oct 15, 2008 10:32 am

Thanks
 
Ok, so Flight Passes might be a good option.

Thanks for the info:)

zman Oct 17, 2008 12:02 pm

Problem retrieving AA fares using Fares/ZUJ
 
When trying to retreive AA fares using Fares/ZUJ (forced to HK) get error message
"Unable to retrieve Fares" ZUJI Hong Kong

Also is there any way to look up booking class availabilty of X and R for AA?

Blank Sheet Oct 17, 2008 12:05 pm

Answered below

SuperFlyBoy Oct 17, 2008 12:06 pm


Originally Posted by zman (Post 10536386)
When trying to retreive AA fares using Fares/ZUJ (forced to HK) get error message
"Unable to retrieve Fares" ZUJI Hong Kong

You have the old version - upgrade to 3.3.1 - Zuji is not present any longer in the new version.

KVS Oct 17, 2008 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by zman (Post 10536386)
Also is there any way to look up booking class availabilty of X and R for AA?

No -- pls see http://www.kvstool.com/FAQ.php#Classes for currently-supported classes.

zman Oct 17, 2008 12:19 pm

[QUOTE=zman;10536386]When trying to retreive AA fares using Fares/ZUJ (forced to HK) get error message
"Unable to retrieve Fares" ZUJI Hong Kong

I missed the 3.3.1 upgrade notice
New Fares/ZVN with POS CA works

zman Oct 17, 2008 12:24 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 10536449)
No -- pls see http://www.kvstool.com/FAQ.php#Classes for currently-supported classes.

I am aware.
Looking for a future enhancement capability.

delanotre Oct 17, 2008 3:33 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 10519739)
RTW fares are not currently supported.

I am very disappointed by this new version to find fares:
When I try to find the fares (Fares/TVN) on PAR TLV with AF, all the economic fares are not displayed (no R no B no S) and no business fare at all!
These booking classes are shown on ITN but you can't find the fare...
Hope you will adjust this issue...

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.1/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/TVN/CA]
Code:

PAR  Paris Metro FR = BVA CDG ORY
TLV  Tel Aviv Yafo Metro / Tel Aviv Yafo Ben Gurion Int'l IL = SDV TLV [LLBG]
RT  Oct-Sep

Carrier  From  To  Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
AF        PAR    TLV      343  EUR            Sun  ***  NLWKEND
AF        PAR    TLV      344  EUR            ***  14  NLAP30
AF        PAR    TLV      396  EUR            Sun  ***  NKWKEND
AF        PAR    TLV      397  EUR            ***  14  NKAP30
AF        PAR    TLV      401  EUR            Sun  ***  ELWKEND
AF        PAR    TLV      403  EUR            ***  1M  ELAP21
AF        PAR    TLV      454  EUR            Sun  ***  EKWKEND
AF        PAR    TLV      456  EUR            ***  1M  EKAP21
AF        PAR    TLV      459  EUR            Sun  ***  NHWKEND
AF        PAR    TLV      459  EUR            Sun  ***  WLWKEND
AF        PAR    TLV      460  EUR            ***  14  NHAP30
AF        PAR    TLV      460  EUR            Sun  1M  WLAP14
AF        PAR    TLV      513  EUR            Sun  ***  WKWKEND
AF        PAR    TLV      514  EUR            Sun  1M  WKAP14
AF        PAR    TLV      518  EUR            Sun  ***  EHWKEND
AF        PAR    TLV      519  EUR            ***  1M  EHAP21
AF        PAR    TLV      530  EUR            Sun  1M  QLAP7
AF        PAR    TLV      576  EUR            Sun  ***  WHWKEND
AF        PAR    TLV      577  EUR            Sun  1M  WHAP14
AF        PAR    TLV      582  EUR            Sun  1M  QKAP7
AF        PAR    TLV      599  EUR            Sun  1M  QLSX0
AF        PAR    TLV      645  EUR            Sun  1M  QHAP7
AF        PAR    TLV      650  EUR            Sun  2M  MLSX0
AF        PAR    TLV      652  EUR            Sun  1M  QKSX0
AF        PAR    TLV      706  EUR            Sun  2M  MKSX0
AF        PAR    TLV      716  EUR            Sun  1M  QHSX0
AF        PAR    TLV      760  EUR            Sun  3M  KLPX0
AF        PAR    TLV      770  EUR            Sun  2M  MHSX0
AF        PAR    TLV      815  EUR            Sun  3M  KKPX0
AF        PAR    TLV      879  EUR            Sun  3M  KHPX0

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.1/Platinum - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]
Code:

PAR  Paris Metro FR = BVA CDG ORY
TLV  Tel Aviv Yafo Metro / Tel Aviv Yafo Ben Gurion Int'l IL = SDV TLV [LLBG]
LUN  22 déc 2008

Carrier  Flight From Depart    To  Arrive    A/C  St  Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- -----------------------------------------------------------
AF        1620  CDG  11:30    TLV  16:55    320  0    C9 D9 Z7 F1 Y9 S9 B8 R0 K0 V0 L0 U0 M0 H0 Q0 A0 W0 T0 E0 N0
AF        2220  CDG  18:45    TLV  00:10 +1  320  0    C9 D9 Z9 F1 Y9 S9 B9 R0 K0 V0 L0 U0 M0 H0 Q0 A0 W0 T0 E0 N0


KVS Oct 17, 2008 3:55 pm


Originally Posted by delanotre (Post 10537429)
When I try to find the fares (Fares/TVN) on PAR TLV with AF, all the economic fares are not displayed (no R no B no S)

Those fares will be displayed if you activate the [Max] option:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.1/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/TVN/CA]
Code:

PAR  Paris Metro FR = BVA CDG ORY
TLV  Tel Aviv Yafo Metro / Tel Aviv Yafo Ben Gurion Int'l IL = SDV TLV [LLBG]
RT  Oct-Sep

Carrier  From  To  Fare      Cur  Expiry    Min  Max  Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
AF        PAR    TLV      460  USD            Sun  ***  NLWKEND
AF        PAR    TLV      462  USD            ***  14  NLAP30
AF        PAR    TLV      531  USD            Sun  ***  NKWKEND
AF        PAR    TLV      532  USD            ***  14  NKAP30
AF        PAR    TLV      537  USD            Sun  ***  ELWKEND
AF        PAR    TLV      540  USD            ***  1M  ELAP21
AF        PAR    TLV      609  USD            Sun  ***  EKWKEND
AF        PAR    TLV      611  USD            ***  1M  EKAP21
AF        PAR    TLV      616  USD            Sun  ***  NHWKEND
AF        PAR    TLV      616  USD            Sun  ***  WLWKEND
AF        PAR    TLV      617  USD            Sun  1M  WLAP14
AF        PAR    TLV      617  USD            ***  14  NHAP30
AF        PAR    TLV      687  USD            Sun  ***  WKWKEND
AF        PAR    TLV      689  USD            Sun  1M  WKAP14
AF        PAR    TLV      694  USD            Sun  ***  EHWKEND
AF        PAR    TLV      696  USD            ***  1M  EHAP21
AF        PAR    TLV      710  USD            Sun  1M  QLAP7
AF        PAR    TLV      773  USD            Sun  ***  WHWKEND
AF        PAR    TLV      774  USD            Sun  1M  WHAP14
AF        PAR    TLV      781  USD            Sun  1M  QKAP7
AF        PAR    TLV      803  USD            Sun  1M  QLSX0
AF        PAR    TLV      865  USD            Sun  1M  QHAP7
AF        PAR    TLV      872  USD            Sun  2M  MLSX0
AF        PAR    TLV      875  USD            Sun  1M  QKSX0
AF        PAR    TLV      947  USD            Sun  2M  MKSX0
AF        PAR    TLV      960  USD            Sun  1M  QHSX0
AF        PAR    TLV    1020  USD            Sun  3M  KLPX0
AF        PAR    TLV    1033  USD            Sun  2M  MHSX0
AF        PAR    TLV    1092  USD            Sun  3M  KKPX0
AF        PAR    TLV    1179  USD            Sun  3M  KHPX0
AF        PAR    TLV    1387  USD                12M  RWEEK
AF        PAR    TLV    1586  USD            Sun  3M  SEE3M
AF        PAR    TLV    1826  USD                12M  S
YY        PAR    TLV    1986  USD                      YIF


delanotre Oct 17, 2008 4:35 pm

Thanks but what about biz fares?

zman Oct 17, 2008 8:33 pm

New Fares/TVN not listing all fares
 
Fares/TVN will not list all fares even if checking off max
It will not list all the coach fares, no business and no first in many cases.


An example asing for max:

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.1/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/TVN/CA]

BOS Boston Logan Int'l MA US [KBOS]
TPE Taipei Chiang Kai Shek TW [RCTP]
RT Oct-Sep

Carrier From To Fare Cur Expiry Min Max Fare Basis
AA BOS TPE 942 USD 6 6M WLXPX6M
AA BOS TPE 990 USD 6 6M WLWPX6M
AA BOS TPE 1077 USD 6 6M MLXPX6M
AA BOS TPE 1082 USD 6 6M WKXPX6M
AA BOS TPE 1126 USD 6 6M MLWPX6M
AA BOS TPE 1131 USD 6 6M WKWPX6M
AA BOS TPE 1228 USD 6 6M WHXPX6M
AA BOS TPE 1277 USD 6 6M MKXPX6M
AA BOS TPE 1297 USD 6 6M WHWPX6M
AA BOS TPE 1345 USD 6 6M MKWPX6M
AA BOS TPE 1423 USD 6 6M MHXPX6M
AA BOS TPE 1499 USD 6 6M HLXRTCX
AA BOS TPE 1520 USD 6 6M MHWPX6M
AA BOS TPE 1558 USD 6 6M HLWRTCX
AA BOS TPE 1651 USD 6 6M KLXPX6M
AA BOS TPE 1735 USD HLOWCX
AA BOS TPE 1769 USD 6 6M KLWPX6M
AA BOS TPE 1860 USD 6 6M KKXPX6M
AA BOS TPE 1978 USD 6 6M KKWPX6M
AA BOS TPE 2102 USD 4 12M KLXS
AA BOS TPE 2142 USD 6 6M KHXPX6M
AA BOS TPE 2220 USD 4 12M KLS
AA BOS TPE 2255 USD 6 6M HKXRTCX
AA BOS TPE 2259 USD 6 6M KHWPX6M
AA BOS TPE 2305 USD 12M BLEX
AA BOS TPE 2320 USD 4 12M KKXS
AA BOS TPE 2326 USD 6 6M HKWRTCX
AA BOS TPE 2425 USD 6 6M HHXRTCX
AA BOS TPE 2446 USD 4 12M KKS
AA BOS TPE 2495 USD 6 6M HHWRTCX
AA BOS TPE 2526 USD 4 12M KHXS
AA BOS TPE 2642 USD 12M BHEX

jarusoba Oct 17, 2008 10:33 pm

Why is there a discrepancy in the fare?
 
I was looking at the U fare of AC PVG-YYZ return. All in Canadian dollars, departing Apr 13, 09, returning May 14, 09.

KVS gave the following results:
[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.1/Platinum - Sabre: Fares/DotRes/US]
Code:

PVG  Shanghai PuDong CN [ZSPD]
YYZ  Toronto Pearson Int'l ON CA [CYYZ]
MON  13 Apr 2009 / THU  14 May 2009 / RT

Carrier  From  To  Fare      Cur                      Fare Basis
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ----------
AC        PVG    YYZ    1292  CAD                      QLXCNCA
AC        PVG    YYZ    1479  CAD                      VLXCNCA
AC        PVG    YYZ    1666  CAD                      HLXCNCA
AC        PVG    YYZ    2102  CAD                      BLXCNCA
AC        PVG    YYZ    2265  CAD                      ULXCNCA
AC        PVG    YYZ    2571  CAD                      MLXCNCA
AC        PVG    YYZ    4862  CAD                      YX2RAC

However, in the AC website, when I punched in the dates, I get this result:

Code:

Review your itinerary
Flight
       
From
       
To
        Date        Depart        Arrive        Stops        Aircraft        Fare
Type
AC026
       
Shanghai, Pu Dong (PVG)
       
Toronto, Pearson Int'l (YYZ)
        Mon Apr-13        15:45        21:30
        1 /YVR1        763        Economy (flexible) U
AC087
       
Toronto, Pearson Int'l (YYZ)
       
Shanghai, Pu Dong (PVG)
        Thu May-14        13:00        15:20
+1 day        0        77L        Economy (flexible) U
1Vancouver

Review final quote details Fare Summary
Passenger Type        Adult
Base Fare (ULXCNCA)        2320.00
Fuel Surcharge YQ        428.66
Taxes, Fees and Charges
Canada Airport Improvement Fee SQ        20.00
Air Travellers Security Charge (ATSC) CA        17.00
China Airport Fee CN        15.68
Canada Goods and Services Tax (GST/HST #10009-2287) XG        1.00
Total airfare and taxes before options (per passenger)        2802.34
Number Of Passengers        1
Grand Total - Canadian dollars        $2802.34

I have the U-fare highlighted in Red. Why is there a discrepancy? TIA.

virtualtroy Oct 18, 2008 2:15 am

More on the fares glitch
 
A simple search query using the Sabre / TVN option for a r/t business class fare on BD, MANLAS returns only economy fares - even with the max box checked.

Using Fares / DotRes is worse still as this produces the error message that more than one match has been found for the city entered.

However, the system storing ANA membership # and PIN on the *A awards search is a welcome improvement.

KVS Oct 18, 2008 5:19 am


Originally Posted by delanotre (Post 10537730)
Thanks but what about biz fares?


Originally Posted by zman (Post 10538505)
Fares/TVN will not list all fares even if checking off max
It will not list all the coach fares, no business and no first in many cases.

From http://www.kvstool.com/FAQ.php#FAQ:

# Q: Does the [Sabre: Fares/TVN] Method support Business/First class fares?
# A: This method will return fares for all cabin classes, sorted by price. When an airline has more fares published on a specific route, only the first 40-100 fares will be shown when using this Method. Try activating the [Max] option, or use the [Sabre: Fares/DotRes] Method instead, where a specific cabin class can be specified.

KVS Oct 18, 2008 5:34 am


Originally Posted by jarusoba (Post 10538874)
I was looking at the U fare of AC PVG-YYZ return. All in Canadian dollars, departing Apr 13, 09, returning May 14, 09.

KVS gave the following results:

However, in the AC website, when I punched in the dates, I get this result:

I have the U-fare highlighted in Red. Why is there a discrepancy? TIA.

I have just checked, and it appears that AC.com is not calculating the fare correctly:
Fare (A1): AC SHAYTO ULXCNCA fare (rules) CNY 6660
Fare (A2): AC YTOSHA ULXCNCA fare (rules) CNY 6660
Tax: People's Republic of China Airport Fee CNY 90
Tax: AC YQ surcharge $360.00
Tax: Toronto Airport Improvement Fee C$20.00
Tax: Canadian Goods and Services Tax C$1.00
Tax: Canadian Air Travelers Security Charge C$17.00
Total for 1 adult passenger: C$2701.10

Fare construction):
SHA AC YTO 973.88ULXCNCA AC SHA 973.88ULXCNCA NUC 1947.76 END ROE 6.83858 FARE CNY 13320 EQU CAD 2235.00 XT 17.00CA 20.00SQ 1.00XG 15.10CN 413.00YQ



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