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nabeelj Sep 24, 2008 12:21 pm

KVS vs. ExpertFlyer
 
I downloaded KVS and also signed up for ExpertFlyer. Before by ExpertFlyer runs out:

Assuming all I need is to see award availability, and assuming I can figure out what classes the various airlines use for award seats/upgrades, is there anything specific I do not have access to in KVS that ExpertFlyer gives me?

Keep in mind I do not need paid fare routing information that I know ExpertFlyer provides but KVS does not.

Thanks!

KVS Sep 24, 2008 2:04 pm


Originally Posted by nabeelj (Post 10418814)
Assuming all I need is to see award availability, and assuming I can figure out what classes the various airlines use for award seats/upgrades, is there anything specific I do not have access to in KVS that ExpertFlyer gives me?

In terms of award availability:
  • Available exclusively via KVS Tool:
    BA/QF/IB/MA/LA,
    LH/US/OS/SK/TP/LO/JK/TK/SQ/NH/OZ/TG/SA/JP/OU/KF,
    CO/DL/KL/SU/AM,
    HA/YX/FJ


  • Available exclusively via EF:
    LX/CA,
    EK/MX

nabeelj Sep 24, 2008 4:32 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 10419452)
In terms of award availability:
  • Available exclusively via KVS Tool:
    BA/QF/IB/MA/LA,
    LH/US/OS/SK/TP/LO/JK/TK/SQ/NH/OZ/TG/SA/JP/OU/KF,
    CO/DL/KL/SU/AM,
    HA/YX/FJ


  • Available exclusively via EF:
    LX/CA,
    EK/MX

EK, AC and BA awards are my primary interest, so I guess each does two out of three. However, EK is the most important, so I guess I will keep my ExpertFlyer membership for now.

Out of curiosity, what data does ExpertFlyer have access to that KVS can not get, to get EK award availability?

ExpertFlyer Voice Sep 24, 2008 7:56 pm


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 10419452)
In terms of award availability:
  • Available exclusively via KVS Tool:
    BA/QF/IB/MA/LA,
    LH/US/OS/SK/TP/LO/JK/TK/SQ/NH/OZ/TG/SA/JP/OU/KF,
    CO/DL/KL/SU/AM,
    HA/YX/FJ


  • Available exclusively via EF:
    LX/CA,
    EK/MX

And for upgrade availability on EF:

AA - X, R, C
DL - G, V, X, Z
NW - R, U, Z

The complete list is here:
http://www.expertflyer.com/sessionlessClassList.do

ExpertFlyer Voice Sep 24, 2008 8:06 pm

dupe.

rolov Sep 30, 2008 8:42 am


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 10287812)
# Q: I am getting "SABRE: FQ-VERIFY SELLING DAT" error message when using the [Sabre: Fares/ZUJ] Method
# A: If you are getting this message on the last day of the current month (e.g. 31st), then this caused by a time difference bug in the ZUJ engine and you should simply try your request in a few hours.
Otherwise, you should check your current system Date, Time, and Time Zone settings to make sure that they are correct.

I think this is causing en error today for RTW search.

SuperFlyBoy Oct 1, 2008 6:12 am

I'm not able to obtain seatmaps using Amadeus...

KVS Oct 1, 2008 6:34 am


Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy (Post 10451966)
I'm not able to obtain seatmaps using Amadeus...

There are currently no issues with Amadeus Seat Maps -- could you pls be a bit more specific?

SuperFlyBoy Oct 1, 2008 6:50 am

Checking the following flight, right-click Amadeus, Seatmap-Text: "not supported":

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.0/Platinum - Sabre: ITN/UK-ASB]

BOM Mumbai Chhatrapati Shivaji IN [VABB]
FRA Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
FRI 02 Oct 2009

Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability
--------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- -----------------------------------------
LH 757 BOM 02:50 FRA 07:45 744 0 F3 A3 J4 C4 D0 Z0 Y9 B9 M9 H9 Q9 V9 W9 U0

KVS Oct 1, 2008 7:59 am


Originally Posted by SuperFlyBoy (Post 10452263)
Checking the following flight, right-click Amadeus, Seatmap-Text: "not supported":

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.0/Platinum - Sabre: ITN/UK-ASB]

BOM Mumbai Chhatrapati Shivaji IN [VABB]
FRA Frankfurt Metro / Frankfurt Int'l DE = FRA HHN [EDDF]
FRI 02 Oct 2009

Perhaps you have clicked on the AI codeshare instead?

[KVS Availability Tool 3.3.0/Platinum - Amadeus Seat Map: 02 Oct 2008/LH 757/BOM-FRA/744/Y]
Code:

      A  B  C    |  D  E  F  G    |  H  J  K     
33 W  -  -  -                            -  -  -      E
34 W  -  -  -        -  -  -  -        -  -  -     
35 W  -  -  -        -  -  +  -        -  -  -     
36 W  -  +  -        -  +  +  -        -  +  -     
37    -  +  -        -  +  +  -        +  -  -     
38    -  +  -        -  +  +  -        -  +  -     
39    -  +  -        -  +  +  -        -  +  -     
40    -  -  -        -  +  +  -        -  -  -     
41    -  +  +        +  +  +  +        -  -  -     
42    -  -  -        +  -  -  -        -  -  -     
43    -  -  -        -  -  -  -        -  -  -     
44    -  -  -        -  -  -  -        +  -  -     
45    -  -  -        -  -  -  -        -  -  -     
46    -  -  -        -  +  +  -        -  +  -     
47    -  +  -        +  +  +  -        +  -  -     
48    -  +  -        +  +  +  -        -  +  -     
52    -  -  -        -  +  +  +        -  +  -     
53    -  -  -        +  +  +  +        +  +  +     
54        -  -        +  +  +  +        +  +         
55        -  +        +  +  +  -        -  +         
56        -  -        +  -  -  +        -  -         

[+] Available  [-] Unavailable  [W] Wing  [E] Exit Row


SuperFlyBoy Oct 1, 2008 9:08 am

Nope - could it be internet connectivity?

Edited to Add: OK, now working - I know what happened! - Date was set to *2009*!


Originally Posted by KVS (Post 10452770)
Perhaps you have clicked on the AI codeshare instead?


EileenSRN Oct 6, 2008 6:06 am

I'm confused....(again)
 
I at a loss here. CO flt 779 IAH-SAT When this flt appears at the top of the list paired with PIT-IAH flt 655 on Oct 11th, it shows lots of availability; but at the bottom of the page it's paired with Flt 2309 PIT-IAH it shows coach sold out. How does this happen?
Eileen

KVS Oct 6, 2008 6:21 am


Originally Posted by EileenSRN (Post 10476705)
I at a loss here. CO flt 779 IAH-SAT When this flt appears at the top of the list paired with PIT-IAH flt 655 on Oct 11th, it shows lots of availability; but at the bottom of the page it's paired with Flt 2309 PIT-IAH it shows coach sold out. How does this happen?
Eileen

Pls see http://www.KVSTool.com/FAQ.php#Factors

bernyx Oct 6, 2008 6:59 am

C class codes for KE
 
Can someone tell me which these are for KE, and if any are for award on the KVS tool.

bernyx Oct 6, 2008 7:01 am

also for northwest , thanks


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