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RDY3238 Jan 8, 2004 5:44 pm

I have been messing with different Pop up software, looking at XP SP1 as a cause of general slowdown...and following a very interesting thread concerning NAV and Symantec dropping the ball, causing all kinds of system slowdowns...particularly manifesting itself in slow running MS Office apps. After running browser checks, I feel slow loading FT is probably at the FT server end....unless someone in FT IT knows something I don't http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

dan at WebFlyer Jan 9, 2004 9:49 am

We've been rebuilding threads and the search indexes, which is a major drain on the servers. We're done now, so the board should pick up its pace...

Rudi Mar 15, 2004 3:33 pm

slow in general, no OMNI access at all
 
about since 1 hour ago (since FlyerTalk time Monday 2:30pm): FlyerTalk in general is very slow (I am as usual on a fast cable-connection, and everything else but FT works fine) - and OMNI can't be accessed at all.

UALOneKPlus Mar 15, 2004 3:46 pm

I think you broke Omni, Rudi! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/eek.gif http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/eek.gif

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Seriously, I saw a ghost riding one of your posts. It had "unregistered user" with a blank post.

I'll bet that's a corrupt thread causing things to go amok.

[This message has been edited by UALOneKPlus (edited Mar 15, 2004).]

ClueByFour Mar 15, 2004 4:44 pm

Yeah, it (OMNI) is dead as of around 1843 EST.

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Jailer Mar 15, 2004 5:22 pm


<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ClueByFour:
dead
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Pushed, or jumped, I'm wondering

RobotDoctor Mar 15, 2004 5:51 pm

No, it was I that broke Omni. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/eek.gif Sorry.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/biggrin.gif

ClueByFour Mar 15, 2004 6:29 pm

Pushed, given the statement above http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif.

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mikey1003 Apr 2, 2004 12:50 pm

FYI, Fri at 2:30EST on DSL still painfully slow
 
I know you are working on this. I could not connect at all on 56.6 Modem with laptop...Took forever.

This is just to make FT staff aware that the corrections yesterday with corrupted forum has not helped here.

Jim90068 Apr 2, 2004 4:00 pm

New format way tooo slow
 
I know a lot of expense has probably gone into the new format, I find it to to be way too slow to load even with high speed connections. :(

I much prefer the old flyer talk forums! :cool:

socalgal Apr 2, 2004 4:58 pm

I agree! the old format was much easier. Also having trouble traversing it. Am often told that the web server not available and I have to start all over. Give me a break...choose a font size????

eireman Apr 2, 2004 5:01 pm

Concur totally with JIM900068

I too much prefer the old format- sometimes you can just give people too many options.The new format is too crowded

There just seems to be so many different subtle shades of blue and other faint colors that it actually makes it difficult to read the pages.

macmedia Apr 2, 2004 5:08 pm

Ditto here.

The pages are loading way slower than before

wanaflyforless Apr 2, 2004 5:19 pm

I was having the same problem - and I'm on a T3 (very fast!) connection.

But as of a few minutes ago - pages are suddenly loading very fast. Now I can get around....with no more than a second wait (max). :cool:

My guess is that once things are to a new normal this board will be fast again for everyone.

steve100 Apr 2, 2004 5:28 pm

Yes, I agree, it is way to slow. Also, the "New Posts" feature is nowhere near as good as the old format.

When you click on "New Posts" here, it just shows you a listing of all the new posts throughout the system. Whereas, the old "New Posts" link on the old board would show you all the new posts for that day, arranged in order by forum. So, forums that I wanted to skip, I would just scan past that entire section. Now, there is no way that I can do that!

Jace Apr 2, 2004 5:33 pm

I'm sure they just have some bugs to work out ... maybe the new software is just a huge resource hog on the servers... and it requires server upgrades.

Just be patient, I'm sure Randy and team will get it figure out.

All in all, the new software is much more feature rich and best long term solution for FT.

jaynyc Apr 2, 2004 5:48 pm

I do find it much more graphically pleasing :-:

But the speed is waaaaaaay toooooooo slooooooow. Not worth the trade off :mad:

scubamom Apr 2, 2004 5:49 pm

New format speeding up
 
The speed is increasing nicely for me, maybe just takes a few days to get up to cruising along y'all. Have a little patience and I agree there's probably some bugs to work out.... they'll get everything tweeked along the way.

I'm so happy the Forums are back up (slow, fast, don't matter, just let me get to them somehow, someway!).

I LIKE the new format... finally I can see some smilie faces to plaster into my messages and won't have to keep using those old 1990 ASCII faces :-) :)

bagold Apr 2, 2004 5:52 pm

Speed seems pretty comparable to me now.

greatam Apr 2, 2004 6:05 pm

New format way tooo slow
 
I have no idea what I am doing NOW. I really had no idea what I was doing before, but now I am TOTALLY lost. I am currently at the AC at LAX and this new format is befuddling. Someone hanging over my shoulder says he will help me. What do I do??? Somehow I do not trust the new format.

I usually look for the best deals on MR and the entire AA forum to point me in the right direction. I am lost!!!

Gina

xTWAnowAAer Apr 2, 2004 6:11 pm

It's fast now
 
It's moving at lighting speed now. Guess they got it fixed.

kbaa35 Apr 2, 2004 6:15 pm

Its current speed might have to do with less users being on, given that it's friday evening. Speaking of which, it's time for beer.... ^

venk Apr 2, 2004 6:21 pm

People who design web site for travelers....
 
... should be forced to visit all the business lounges in airports and ensure their design works with the tired and overworked computers with marginal bandwidths in these lounges.

They may be able to get the servers powerful enough to serve all the cutesies in this new format fast enough but when travelers who haunt these message boards are no longer able to download the huge page content at each click when at a lounge or on a dialup from a hotel room, then the designers have lost the plot.

Just looking at the page where I am typing this, it is almost 50k in size not including the graphics!!!!! It includes the posts in the thread below it. Why would I want to wait for the page to download the posts in the thread to reply when I am on a dialup?

Not to be overly critical of a free resource but feature creep never solved a scaling problem.

minatonka Apr 2, 2004 6:22 pm

Give it some time & hopefully it will get better both from FT getting its software act together more, and from each of us playing more with the system so that we get more used to it until it is again second nature....

bollar Apr 2, 2004 6:37 pm


Originally Posted by venk
... should be forced to visit all the business lounges in airports and ensure their design works with the tired and overworked computers with marginal bandwidths in these lounges.

They may be able to get the servers powerful enough to serve all the cutesies in this new format fast enough but when travelers who haunt these message boards are no longer able to download the huge page content at each click when at a lounge or on a dialup from a hotel room, then the designers have lost the plot.

Just looking at the page where I am typing this, it is almost 50k in size not including the graphics!!!!! It includes the posts in the thread below it. Why would I want to wait for the page to download the posts in the thread to reply when I am on a dialup?

Not to be overly critical of a free resource but feature creep never solved a scaling problem.

Randy replied to your similar comments a few hours ago here: New FT Version Is Worse

Platinum4life Apr 2, 2004 7:55 pm

It seems back up to spped now. (at least for me)

OldRope Apr 2, 2004 8:10 pm

It seems to be getting faster. Yesterday the board was just worthless. But given time, I'm sure things will be getting eed.

DataPlumber Apr 3, 2004 7:15 am

The new format is terrible
 
The speed of the site seems determined by the load. At odd hours it is ok, but still nowhere near as good as the old front end. During the day, it is useless.

It is frustrating when you cannot post a reply. :mad: I also receive many errors and timeouts. ^_ ^_

I think they paved paradise and put up a parking lot :rolleyes:

andrzej Apr 3, 2004 7:56 am


Originally Posted by DataPlumber
The speed of the site seems determined by the load. At odd hours it is ok, but still nowhere near as good as the old front end. During the day, it is useless.

It is frustrating when you cannot post a reply. :mad: I also receive many errors and timeouts. ^_ ^_

I think they paved paradise and put up a parking lot :rolleyes:

Yesterday I was just as frustraded as you, but all morning long, it's working beautifully. Pages load as quickly as before. Everything seems to be back to normal. I guess it's a good time to explore the new features. I still can't understand why this took so long, only beause I can't imagine a commercial site shutting down for almost a week to upgrade, but the end results seem to be worth it. ^

Plato90s Apr 3, 2004 8:52 am

Still too slow, besides the fact that I can't seem to access the site using Netscape 7.0

SethLevy Apr 3, 2004 11:42 am

The new format sucks and it is way too slow. I think FT will loose a lot of people. They should have left it alone. Too bad. But for me I find myself moving away from FT now.

martin33 Apr 3, 2004 12:30 pm


Originally Posted by SethLevy
The new format sucks and it is way too slow. I think FT will loose a lot of people. They should have left it alone. Too bad. But for me I find myself moving away from FT now.

as of right now, it's drawing in near-text only mode, and that is much much faster. perhaps all those graphical backgrounds that made it look like old FT are what's so slow in the new regime.

the new regime is harder to navigate, too, whilst we're at it. hard to hop from one forum to another-- you're forced to traverse menus for it.

martin33 Apr 3, 2004 12:32 pm


Originally Posted by SethLevy
The new format sucks and it is way too slow. I think FT will loose a lot of people. They should have left it alone. Too bad. But for me I find myself moving away from FT now.

as of right now, it's drawing in near-text only mode, and that is much much faster. perhaps all those graphical backgrounds that made it look like old FT are what's so slow in the new regime.

the new regime is harder to navigate, too, whilst we're at it. hard to hop from one forum to another-- you're forced to traverse menus for it.

Bruiser Apr 3, 2004 12:42 pm


Originally Posted by Jim90068
I know a lot of expense has probably gone into the new format, I find it to to be way too slow to load even with high speed connections. :(

I much prefer the old flyer talk forums! :cool:

I agree - this is too slow and I don't like the new format, which seems to have changed again to larger print and larger spacing - less compact and readable and doesn't seem to be color coded now. Can't we go back to the old one?

tzmrhal Apr 3, 2004 12:46 pm

A Llittle Patience and a Littlle Loyallity May be in Order Here
 
or actually a BUNCH of patience and a BUNCH of loyalty almost certainly is in order here.

I mean, gheeessus. We all know Randy does whatever he can to keep this whole thing together. Its not like he's some [crooked] airline exec making millions. He's the fairest community leader I've come across as an entrepreneur and executive who studies them.

And as far as the transition is concerned, these are not easy things to accomplish. Randy is right, eBay, Amazon, etc...all had servers crash and growing pains...and they spent HUNDREDS of MILLIONS of dollars. I guarantee you Randy found some way to give us upgrades, on a shoestring, so he doesn't have to raise our membership/magazine costs.

So, if you're gonna leave the day or two after a major upgrade, good riddance, dude..."we ain't want yas around here anyway" as they say...so beat it.

Teddy

tom911 Apr 3, 2004 12:56 pm


Originally Posted by martin33
hard to hop from one forum to another-- you're forced to traverse menus for it.

Have you set up My Flyertalk with your preferred forums stored on it? You'll have a menu there of only the forums you want, and you won't need to jump all over as they'll be in one place, easily accessible by clicking on My FlyerTalk.

When you enter a new forum, click on 'forum tools" and you can subscribe from there. After that point, you just need to click on My Flyertalk and all your forums will be right there.

andrzej Apr 3, 2004 1:03 pm

I will confirm again, it's working beautifully for me. I posted very early this morning stating the same thing and now about 12 hours later it's still running great. Just like the old days. ^ I was just as frustrated as many of you yesterday, but I'm a happy camper today.

tom911 Apr 3, 2004 1:10 pm


Originally Posted by SethLevy
But for me I find myself moving away from FT now.

It's too bad you've only been registered for a month and are already abandoning FT. There's a wealth of information here, and it will be your loss if you leave.

Give Randy a break, please! We brought up a multi-million dollar CAD system at work and we had crashes and networks problems for several weeks until we fine tuned it. I remember entering a shooting one night and right in the middle of the call my screen froze, and I had to go to the backup plan (screamng across the floor at the police dispatcher to start units to the shooting until someone with a working terminal could enter the call). This stuff happens with new software, and you have to give the IT team time to sort out the bugs and fine tune it. It runs fne in the early morning hours, as I was logged on between 1a.m. and 6.a.m yetserday morning and was zipping right along, as were some other users (PremEx was on line). The problems seem to arise when there's more people logged on later in the day, and in the evening. I'm sure they have the stats readily available to try and fix it.

Those of us that have been here a while appreciate what Randy offers us here, and are going to give him some type to work on the bugs. I don't think he's going to lose anyone that values what he offers here. There is no comparable board out there to match FT.

Middle_Seat Apr 3, 2004 2:58 pm

My apologies if this has been asked and answered...I cannot get Search to work now.

1. A Subscribe function would be very useful. The old software let the original poster subscribe to a forum, but nobody else. Other boards permit anyone to subscribe to a forum, even if they don't post a message. The latter is very handy, and I hope it is added to the new FT.

2. Is there a way to bookmark / make a favorite of a forum, like MilesBuzz?

I appreciate Randy and the team continuing to make improvements to this wonderful resource!

Edited to add: What the heck is this thread doing in the AA forum?!? Also, I see now that there is a limited subscribe function, available only(?) to those who post in a thread...you can see it in the Options area of the board. Subscribing is an all-or-none thing, it does not appear that you can subscribe to only certain threads.

robertw477 Apr 3, 2004 3:42 pm

These boards remind me of the old Prodigy Network running over a 2400 modem on a PC Xt with 512K memory. These boards are a disaster.

Rob

The fonts,headlings and graphics dont always load. It is very strange...


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