Report FT SLOWNESS on this thread
 

FT seemed awfully slow this afternoon (even with my high speed cable connection). Just wondering if this could be caused by a lot of stock trading on the internet (there was a big selloff today)?

Going to keep my eye on this the next time we get a slow down.

Flyertalk loading and running slow
 

Maybe it's just me but Flyertalk has loaded slow and shifting from one screen to another after posting a message has been even slower.

Have you at WebFlyer had any computer problems monday afternoon?

Catman, this time, it is not just you. Today the site seems to be running slower than UA mileage statements.

And the lightbulbs are completely missing from my display. Anyone else? Or just me?

Been running fine, lightbulbs and all, for me all day today.

the swiss are papmpered - no problems for us.

Rudi, and the Swiss are neutral too? http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

I repeat myself: neutrality, as we swiss understand it, means, that we wait to choose any partie's side, till we will know pretty sure who will turn out winning ..,

I think someone burst one of their backbones today (oops -- techno-speak for the really big communication lines). I've had trouble on several different sites. Others, absolutely fine.

The weirdness of the wired world...

And for the record: I'm ALWAYS on Rudi's side. His Swiss chocolates are to DIE for...

So much for neutrality from me!

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif

Slow page loading
 

I use a 56K modem and consistently connect at 48-52K.

The FT front page loads fairly quickly, but once inside the individual threads are very, very slow loading (as slow as 1K/sec. or less).

When I clicked on the Post New Topic button here, it took about 6-7 seconds to bring me to this screen.

I can have other pages open in the background or not, it doesn't seem to matter. Even pages with large graphic images seem to load much faster than FT lately.

Can anyone at FT help?

Shadow et al,

I've been having problems with outrageously slow page loading on and off all week (normal daytime business hours), but only when at work. Like you, the opening page loads promptly but I'm on a T-1. At home, usually at 28K the site is loading about the same as it did a month ago.

I'm not anything close to an expert on this stuff, but I wonder if my company's webserver was having DNS identification problems, due to the new URL? Anyone with some experience in this area, care to comment?

Craig

[This message has been edited by Craig6z (edited 11-14-1999).]

Makes me feel better that it's not only me...I was afraid it was my computer/modem connection.

I've been having this problem intermittently all week. I thought it was perhaps due to Internet congestion, since it doesn't occur late at night.

[This message has been edited by RichG (edited 11-13-1999).]

TRUE! TRUE! TRUE! FT is the usually one of the slowest sites around. It seemed to have started about the time of "upgrade" to 5.0 or somewhat sooner. Unless you use Opera as a browser, you traded through-put for really ugly-color. If you use Opera, then FT is still slow but at least it is black on white.

Some of you seem to confuse the modem connection speed (usually 28k-56k) with the actual modem through put speed. The modem connection speed is the MAXIMUM speed (in kbits/sec) you can obtain, while through put is the ACTUAL speed of download or upload in kbytes/sec. At approx 9 kbit = 1 kbyte, a 48k connection will max out to 5.3 kbytes/sec. File transfer programs usually indicate this type of speed. A 56k modem is actually limited to 53k by the FCC.

Having said that, in Delaware I use a cable modem having an average connection speed of 1500 kbits/sec and average through put of 20-150 kbytes/sec. This is equivalent to a T-1 line and VERY FAST in the home WWW arena. Most sites download here at approx 25 kbytes/sec. For example, the NYT downloaded this am at 32 kbytes/sec. WOW!

FT, when it is actually working, usually is in the 1-3 kbytes/sec area. This is VERY VERY SLOW. In the famous words of G Gorden Liddy who I recently heard driving back from DCA, "It must be that cheap East German transmission crap the station is using".

Hopefully what I said above is correct and understandable by most if not all. If not, hopefully those who know this stuff will shine their lantern and correct it. I am not an electrical engineer nor a computer system analyst, nor do I play one in real life. Just trying to help.

Note to Randy P: IMHO the actual limiting problem is either with your local lines, your server or your software

[This message has been edited by MisterNice (edited 11-14-1999).]

I've not experienced any problems and I log on 4 to 5 times a day. Using Windows 95, Netscape 4.7 browser, connecting through AOL Net, 56K modem connecting at 46K. My second pages typically load at slowest of 3.3 kbs.

Are you using the new FlyerTalk server at:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forumcgi/Ultimate.cgi

I've bookmarked: http://www.flyertalk.com/boardsfr.htm both at home and work. Also tried while on the T-1, the old http://talk.webflyer.com ... with no better success.

I'll try PremEx's URL tomorrow in my office.

I'm also not experiencing slow page loads since FT 5.0 was installed. Using Windows NT 4, IE 5 over both a 56K modem and an ADSL connection.

I'm using www.flyertalk.com on the ADSL line, PremEx's URL on my laptop.

Today at work, everything is loading very fast. Doesn't matter what URL I'm using.
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2:03pm Pacific time http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/frown.gif, lousy loading again. Webserver appeared to be running fine, as all other sites I went to loaded quickly.

[This message has been edited by Craig6z (edited 11-15-1999).]

I had really slow loading at the AC lounge with Internet Explorer 5 yesterday. They also had Netscape 4.7 and the pages loaded OK with it. My Explorer 4 works fine here.

Speed has been great the last 2-3 days. Using Win98, cable modem and Opera browser gave 52 kbytes/sec d/l or 1-2 sec/page. Using IE5 took about twice as long. Some latency but now as fast as most all other sites. Good going WebFlyer staff!!

Maybe they bought a new battery.

I hope someone is still on this thread. For me, it is not a matter of slowness. I expect that with my two year old Macintosh Performa and a 56K modem connection and Netscape 3.01. But since returning from a trip November 10-14 I have not been able to establish a connection at all. I am able to connect from my work computers if I do a search rather than use old bookmarks.

I am very distressed to not be able to connect from my personal computer because I suppose I should not use my work computer for WebTalk now that they are asserting any frequent traveler points are theirs (and threatening polygraph exams).

The error messages come back with "broken pipe" or "server is refusing connection".Is there any way to fix this on my end? Did the upgrade result excluding older computers with older browsers?

All you wonderful people...I apologize for the delay in getting back to you.

I would like you to know that I check this board everyday and that I am aware of your questions.

I'm also not going to offer you any excuses because you deserve much better than that...just as simple apology.

Suffice it to say that we are working on the numerous problems as fast as possible. We hadn't anticipated such a warm and caring audience. The board has sort of taken on a life of it's own and is growing faster than we can keep up with.

We are looking into investing in another BB system. One that is very stable and will cover everyones needs. It will hopefully include real time chat, etc. The biggest problem that we face at this time is legacy data...that is, the posts all you FleyrTalkers have already made. We want every post you have made to carry over to the new system no matter which BB we decide to go with. We are very close to settling on a new system and then it'll just be a matter of integrating the old content.

Thank you very much for your patience and your support.

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ThanX...
Michael at WebFlyer

I don't know if people with standard modems constantly experience such slow loading, but I was very frustrated at AC lounges on new Pentium III computers using a 56K modem and FlyerTalk. It took a long time for each page to load when going from topic to topic. With cable modem it is instant.

Other sites at AC lounge seemed to be OK. Is the UBB software really that slow over the phone lines?

I am currently connecting at the LAS Rio Suites with a PII Sony 300 Meg laptop 56k modem actually connecting at 45.3k. Actual throughput 4.6-7.4 kbytes/sec for FT and most web sites. Quite satisfactory and OK with me.

Wish I could say the same for my blackjack results.

Michael at Web Flyer, take a look at WebBoard.

Thank you all for your wonderful suggestions, there is some great advice up here.

Our server is definitely part of the problem. When we did the 5.0 upgrade we also did a server switch to our own dedicated server. This is fairly new to us and although we have a wonderful tech person in the form of Mr. A.K. Suska there are a number of issues that we are still trying to nail down. We will defintely keep your suggestions in mind.




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ThanX...
Michael at WebFlyer

Painfully Slow Today
 

Both FlyerTalk and WebFlyer have been painfully slow loading this afternoon. Up to 25 seconds for each page to load. What's up?

I did not notice anything different today than what I am used to, though I am on a 56K modem (PremEx - you said a few days ago that you have a slow internet connection, but 25 sec is painfully slow).

[This message has been edited by PG (edited 02-02-2000).]

We're certainly looking into this, though every time we do we find a mixture of people who have slow loads and those that don't (such as the above comment) which would lead us to believe that the problem isn't special to our server, since if it was, all loads would be slow. Anyway, it doesn't matter, we want this to work for everyone and will see what we can do for more "power". Thanks for the note, which we really do appreciate. Cheers.....

It's been slow here, too, but so are other sites. I wonder if there's a bottleneck somewhere that's choking west coast Internet traffic? (Or is that even possible?)

Back to working fine now. Thanks.

...and I just thought it was cause I am in China!

Dorian

It's not just the west coast. At the conference lounge in midtown Manhattan, the PC I was using was so slow yesterday at 5-6pm(seemed like over 1 min) that I thought it was locked up! I assumed it was just the public PC I was using. Glad its much better today.

Site slow?
 

For the last day or so, I've noticed that every time I try to access a page on FT, it takes about a minute, just lagging for a while before "clicking" and downloading the page.

I don't have this problem with any other Web site, so I wonder if something is going on?

I noticed it too... I'm on a cable modem, and the rest of the internet was fast as ever... However, this site was SLOW, Really slow...

In the past Wednesdays have been very slow because on Wednesdays WebFlyer releases its low fare lists and gets tons of hits.

I believe FT was recently moved to a new server to combat this program.

Regardless, I experienced no unusual problems yesterday, except that my laptop is always slow. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/mad.gif

[This message has been edited by BostonBoy (edited 06-01-2000).]

Early this morning it was impossible to post and last night was very slow. There definitely are problems with the server, since I am also on a cable modem.

Things seem to be working smoothly now. I'm on a T1, FYI.

Doing it again today! Anyone at FlyerTalk know what is causing this?

no problems and still fast (cable-modem) from far-away Switzerland.