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Nov 5, 2020, 3:29 am
#1487
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There's nothing more infectious than Corona than stupidity, that's for sure. All the comments above are right. It's really worrying how people are. A much bigger crisis we just wouldn't get through. Not easy for the airlines, or hotels, as they have to somehow deal with all this.
Nov 5, 2020, 4:18 am
#1488
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Passengers were deplaned so that authorities could remove the woman who refused to leave the plane.
I just don’t understand some people.
I just don’t understand some people.
Last edited by glarez; Nov 6, 2020 at 9:37 pm
Nov 5, 2020, 6:32 am
#1489
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She needs to be slapped with a lawsuit for disrupting the travel plans of all other passengers.
As to how she got onboard - she could have worn it onboard first, then took it off. then again, the article is not clear
As to how she got onboard - she could have worn it onboard first, then took it off. then again, the article is not clear
Nov 5, 2020, 8:43 am
#1490
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It would only take a very few air carriers filing lawsuits to recover their damages for the word to get around. The amounts don't have to be eye-popping, but the operating costs of a commercial aircraft for 90 minutes or so are not inconsequential.. This one, where the passenger refused to deplane also deserves a criminal prosecution. Not suggesting anyone has to spend life in prison, but a day or two would make the point.
Nov 5, 2020, 9:25 am
#1492
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The disruptive passenger was not arrested but taken to the Southwest gate to receive a refund for her ticket before being escorted to a non-secure side of the airport.
There have to be consequences.
Nov 5, 2020, 10:51 am
#1493
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It would only take a very few air carriers filing lawsuits to recover their damages for the word to get around. The amounts don't have to be eye-popping, but the operating costs of a commercial aircraft for 90 minutes or so are not inconsequential.. This one, where the passenger refused to deplane also deserves a criminal prosecution. Not suggesting anyone has to spend life in prison, but a day or two would make the point.
Nov 5, 2020, 2:17 pm
#1494
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Note from one of your Moderators: Mask discussion tends to go off the rails, so I have moved an entire thread on that subject to the Peanut Gallery, where you can have fun driving the train of discussion cross-country.
Nov 6, 2020, 8:38 pm
#1495
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Yeah, about that ... I had to be in the Vegas Northern suburbs recently for work, and decided to pop down to one of the Fremont St. area casinos. I saw a lot- more than I'd expected- of old, fat, unhealthy people, many with ambulatory problems (canes, walkers) and even a few on Oxygen, FFS. These are the people square in the bulls-eye of the CV death curve, and here they are hanging out in Vegas. 
Maybe instead of calling people who aren't likely to die because they know they're outside the death curves and are loath to accept these restrictive measures "selfish", we call the people who are more likely to die but can't stay home, yet expect everyone to try and "save" them the selfish ones?
Maybe instead of calling people who aren't likely to die because they know they're outside the death curves and are loath to accept these restrictive measures "selfish", we call the people who are more likely to die but can't stay home, yet expect everyone to try and "save" them the selfish ones?
Nov 7, 2020, 2:26 am
#1496
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Yeah, about that ... I had to be in the Vegas Northern suburbs recently for work, and decided to pop down to one of the Fremont St. area casinos. I saw a lot- more than I'd expected- of old, fat, unhealthy people, many with ambulatory problems (canes, walkers) and even a few on Oxygen, FFS. These are the people square in the bulls-eye of the CV death curve, and here they are hanging out in Vegas.
Maybe instead of calling people who aren't likely to die because they know they're outside the death curves and are loath to accept these restrictive measures "selfish", we call the people who are more likely to die but can't stay home, yet expect everyone to try and "save" them the selfish ones?
Maybe instead of calling people who aren't likely to die because they know they're outside the death curves and are loath to accept these restrictive measures "selfish", we call the people who are more likely to die but can't stay home, yet expect everyone to try and "save" them the selfish ones?
I know that First World society these days is not really big on the idea of personal responsibility, but people really do need to face up to the responsibility of taking their own steps to protect themselves and those vulnerable people closest to them.
If you're scared, protect yourself. Wear an N95 (or a hazmat suit if you want - I'm not going to try to police people's fashion statements). Don't go to the bar, hide behind your couch if you want. Your choice. Just don't force your fear onto the rest of society.
Nov 10, 2020, 9:04 am
#1497
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Let me guess- widespread mandated closures of businesses, hard national house-arrest or curfews, and a nationwide mask policy, likely with jail consequences? I'm glad we don't and if they try I hope we get more lawsuits like some states have done. Why punish low-risk places because of high-risk places? And for those about to say something like "South Korea", they're up again (as well as several other restrictive countries) despite all their restrictive measures. The world is just stuck with CV at this point- so maybe instead of punishing everyone, since we know know very well which groups are most-likely to die, why don't we actually protect the vulnerable by taking proactive measures for them first? Everything else is just hand-waving and window-dressing to get the punters to think we're "doing something".
"Cases" are not "deaths" and I'm glad to see the public is wising up to that, and recent events in the news are making that clear.
"Cases" are not "deaths" and I'm glad to see the public is wising up to that, and recent events in the news are making that clear.
Nov 10, 2020, 10:19 am
#1498
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Of course the US will have more cases than any individual country, because there are simply more people and more testing being done.
Further, comparing coronavirus infections between different countries is just wrong because it is not an apples to apples comparison. We already know that the death counts were overstated in the US, while understated in many European countries. In the US, they were counting coronavirus deaths for people who died in car accidents but were diagnosed with coronavirus.
Nov 10, 2020, 1:33 pm
#1499
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The US has fewer cases per 100,000 inhabitants that nearly all European countries at this point. Just yesterday, Europe had 220,000 new infections, while US 120,000 new infections.
Of course the US will have more cases than any individual country, because there are simply more people and more testing being done.
Further, comparing coronavirus infections between different countries is just wrong because it is not an apples to apples comparison. We already know that the death counts were overstated in the US, while understated in many European countries. In the US, they were counting coronavirus deaths for people who died in car accidents but were diagnosed with coronavirus.
Of course the US will have more cases than any individual country, because there are simply more people and more testing being done.
Further, comparing coronavirus infections between different countries is just wrong because it is not an apples to apples comparison. We already know that the death counts were overstated in the US, while understated in many European countries. In the US, they were counting coronavirus deaths for people who died in car accidents but were diagnosed with coronavirus.
Nov 10, 2020, 2:10 pm
#1500
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Please provide us with some citation of the source of some of your questionable assertions... do you REALLY believe that they were counting car accident fatalaties as coronavirus? How? Did they perform a coronavirus test on a dead person to verify that they were corona positive? You also state that the US will have more cases because there are more people and more testing being done. That sounds like politician talk rather than scientific talk. We have more cases because there is more disease present. With your line of reasoning, if we ceased all testing, our covid numbers would go to zero. Would that mean that the pandemic is over? I continue to be amazed, and not in a good way, about the level of education of some significant percentage of the American population.
Regardless, a quick glance at just one day worth of data in the table below shows that Spain, Italy, Poland, Switzerland are doing much worse than the US.
And sure, there's plenty. Here are some snapshots:
https://cbs12.com/news/local/man-who...florida-report
https://www.wfmz.com/health/coronavi...a00d2beb8.html
You and I do not know whether the US has more cases than other countries. We also know nothing about the prevalence in population. Whoever makes such statements has no idea what they are talking about.
- Other countries are doing much fewer tests than the US per 100,000 inhabitants.
- Other countries are using different tests for coronavirus.
