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Old Jul 9, 2020, 7:33 am
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Given the difficulty in issuing new regulations I wander if the FAA can do anything in like a reasonable time.
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Old Jul 17, 2020, 12:09 am
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Originally Posted by storewanderer
Look, I was out over the past few days in numerous retail stores in Nevada. Multiple Wal Mart locations, numerous grocery stores, the mall in Reno (Macys, JCP, Dick's, the mall itself). Specifically various stores in Washoe County, Carson County, and Douglas County. Broad range of politics in those three counties. 100% mask compliance. No confrontations. No protests. Nothing. I saw literally thousands of people and they are wearing masks while in the stores. People are doing as they are being told to do, and wearing masks per state mandate. I can tell you had you gone to Carson or Douglas before the state mandate you'd have seen less than 20% of the people in the stores wearing masks and in Washoe maybe 40% of people wearing masks before the state mandate. I have no clue where the 49% business compliance statistic comes from- but it isn't around here, at least not with retail stores. Or is it biased data that is being falsified in an attempt to promote more fear, cause more problems, and make more business closure mandates again?
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Yesterday at a casino I saw one person not wearing a mask. I go to a casino almost every day. I have not seen someone not wear a mask indoors since the governor's mask order. The compliance rate in Reno is 99.99%.
Six Northern Nevada businesses fined for not following COVID-19 rules


The stores and the fines are:

RAC Guns & Ammo LLC 3030 Mill Street, Reno, NV 89502 $3,643

Winco Foods #17 2855 Northtowne Ln Reno, NV 89512 $7,374

Walmart Store #1648 3770 US Hwy 395 N. Carson City 89706 $8,675

Walmart Store #3408 3200 Market Street, Carson City, NV 89706 $8,675

The Home Depot #3312 921 Jacks Valley Road, Carson City, NV 89706 $8,675

Grocery Geeks, Inc. (dba Grocery Outlet) 7 Dayton Village Pkwy, Dayton NV 89403 $6,073

Walmart Neighborhood Market #5259 6151 West Lake Mead Blvd, Las Vegas, NV 89108 $13,494
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Old Jul 17, 2020, 1:03 am
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Without knowing what the exact violation was, this is largely meaningless. Do they fine the store if the customer is not in a mask? Or is it if the employee is not in a mask? Or is it something else entirely not even to do with masks. Distancing? I was in both of those Carson Wal Mart Stores, the Highway 395 one at least three times in the past three weeks and that other Carson one one time, and did not see any issues regarding mask usage. Everyone had masks and there was a single entry point.

You also conveniently failed to mention that overall compliance per this report in Northern Nevada is 86% and in Southern Nevada is 80%. Given they are clearly cooking these numbers to make the situation look worse than it is, I will give you this- you absolutely have a problem down there in Las Vegas for some reason with getting people on board with whatever it is they are supposed to be compliant with. It would be nice if they would list exactly what it is people should be doing that they are not doing. Is it just mask wearing? Is it distancing? Perhaps employees congregating together and talking during work? Let's just assume they are cooking the numbers by 10% so real compliance is 96% in North and 90% in South. That still seems exaggerated based on my observations but I can go with it. I went to about 10 stores tonight in Reno- everyone had masks. No issues. No arguments. The one Wal Mart had at least 3 people at the door plus a security guard screening customers. Smiths had a manager sitting at a table in the store foyer with a box of masks on it. I thought both of those were interesting but seeing this now I see why.
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Old Jul 17, 2020, 7:52 am
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Even faced with evidence. Wow.

We're doomed.
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Old Jul 17, 2020, 11:16 am
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Originally Posted by ursine1
Even faced with evidence. Wow.

We're doomed.
I guess I can't read. Show me the evidence of what exactly is being done wrong (not wearing masks, not distancing, what is it?). Show me EXACTLY what the violations in the stores were that are "80% compliant in the South and 86% compliant in the North."

So ursine when you go out to a business down there in the South, you are seeing 1 in 5 people not wearing a mask? Because that is what 80% compliance translates into.

Up in the North (Reno area, at least- can't speak for what is or isn't happening out in Elko area) it isn't even 1 in 100 not wearing a mask, so again I am telling you these numbers are either bogus or being exaggerated to promote an agenda.

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Old Jul 19, 2020, 10:35 am
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😆😆 Hysteria Level: 11/10 😆😆

(I wish I could say "OK, now I've seen it all!", but something tells me there's more of this kind of ridiculousness yet to come)


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Old Jul 21, 2020, 5:56 pm
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Well, look at that- the CDC says all that house-arrest backfired:

A study published in the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) on July 16 looked in detail at 5,706 “index patients” who had tested positive for the coronavirus and more than 59,000 people who came into contact with them. The findings showed just two out of 100 infected people had caught the virus from non-household contacts, while one in 10 had contracted the disease from their own families.
It's too bad that after completely effing up the economy worse than the 2008 crisis, nobody will go to jail for their part in the overreaction they caused
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Old Jul 22, 2020, 9:04 am
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The enjoyable movie about said 2008 crisis, "The Big Short" makes a funny reference like that to jail time served - NOT!
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Old Jul 22, 2020, 5:47 pm
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Southwest just significantly tightened up their face mask requirement. Earlier this week Delta made a similar move, requiring those expressing a medical exception to the policy to submit to a tele-medicine consultation with a doctor who will approve (or deny) them safe for air travel. Southwest is going further and literally telling passengers requesting a medical exception that they will not be transported at this time.

Exemptions to face coverings

  • Young children under the age of 2.​
  • If a Customer is unable to wear a face covering for any reason (even a verifiable medical condition), we regret that we are unable to transport the Customer at this time, due to safety risk of asymptomatic COVID-19 transmission by Customers without face coverings. In other words, because of public health guidance recognizing the important role of face coverings in preventing the transmission of COVID-19, Southwest will temporarily refuse to transport any passenger who is unable to wear a mask even if the Customer has a verifiable medical condition that prevents them from wearing a mask.​
  • In the future, if there is a change in public health guidance on face coverings or other changed circumstances impacting Safety, Southwest looks forward to welcoming all passengers on board again safely. In the meantime, Southwest encourages all Customers who are unable to wear a face covering (even due to a verifiable medical condition) to postpone air travel, or consider other forms of transportation.
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Old Jul 23, 2020, 7:18 pm
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Originally Posted by kennycrudup
Well, look at that- the CDC says all that house-arrest backfired:



It's too bad that after completely effing up the economy worse than the 2008 crisis, nobody will go to jail for their part in the overreaction they caused
​​​​​​The CDC did not say house arrest or backfired. That is just your assinine spin Qanon. If 2 or more people live in the same house, there is more time of contact and chance to pass on any communicable disease. Chicken pox, regular flu, etc. That's common knowledge for most people with common sense.
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Old Jul 25, 2020, 3:49 pm
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This thread (and overall forum) are more enjoyable once you learn there's an ability to block users.
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Old Jul 25, 2020, 11:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Franklin7777
This thread (and overall forum) are more enjoyable once you learn there's an ability to block users.
Absolutely. Unfortunately it's just "ignore," not a full "block." And you'll still see their comments if quoted by another member, so it's not perfect. But it does help tremendously.
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Old Aug 5, 2020, 1:19 am
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No matter where you stand on the mask debate, you've gotta admit this is hilarious:

Man parades down Oxford Street wearing nothing but mask

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Old Aug 23, 2020, 12:24 am
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Originally Posted by ursine1
Southwest just significantly tightened up their face mask requirement. Earlier this week Delta made a similar move, requiring those expressing a medical exception to the policy to submit to a tele-medicine consultation with a doctor who will approve (or deny) them safe for air travel. Southwest is going further and literally telling passengers requesting a medical exception that they will not be transported at this time.
What about those who cannot wear mask due to medical or psychological reasons but purchased a ticket before the change in policy was announced? If those people are not grandfathered in I think that they would have grounds for a breach of contract lawsuit as when someone purchases an air ticket a contract is formed between that person and the airline.
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Old Aug 23, 2020, 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by Loose Cannon
What about those who cannot wear mask due to medical or psychological reasons but purchased a ticket before the change in policy was announced? If those people are not grandfathered in I think that they would have grounds for a breach of contract lawsuit as when someone purchases an air ticket a contract is formed between that person and the airline.
The contract of carriage is going to be written so that the airline has wide leeway to refuse to provide service as long as they provide a full and appropriate refund.
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