Official Peanut Gallery Thread
Aug 23, 2020, 2:48 pm
#1456
Join Date: Mar 2011
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This could be grounds for an actual refund to original payment method (not just credit on future flight) with purchase of a non-refundable before the mask rule went into place, I'll give that much.
Aug 28, 2020, 11:24 am
#1457
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: SNA
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The coronavirus is most deadly if you are older and male — new data reveal the risks ... A slew of detailed studies has now quantified the increased risk the virus poses to older people, men, and other groups.
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....12.20173690v2
The studies reveal that age is by far the strongest predictor of an infected person’s risk of dying — a metric known as the infection fatality ratio (IFR), which is the proportion of people infected with the virus, including those who didn’t get tested or show symptoms, who will die as a result
Last edited by kennycrudup; Aug 28, 2020 at 11:27 am Reason: Added graph
Sep 9, 2020, 8:43 pm
#1458
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Posts: 836
They should let the policy lapse. The airlines need to make money.
I flew 4 legs over the past few days and 3/4 were ‘Rona’ full.
Wouldn’t change my view one bit. If you are a scaredy-cat, don’t go anywhere. It’s that simple.
I just held a cup in my hand the whole time and didn’t wear a mask - life is okay folks. Go back to LIVING your lives.
I flew 4 legs over the past few days and 3/4 were ‘Rona’ full.
Wouldn’t change my view one bit. If you are a scaredy-cat, don’t go anywhere. It’s that simple.
I just held a cup in my hand the whole time and didn’t wear a mask - life is okay folks. Go back to LIVING your lives.
Sep 9, 2020, 9:09 pm
#1459
Join Date: Mar 2011
Posts: 6,286
They should let the policy lapse. The airlines need to make money.
I flew 4 legs over the past few days and 3/4 were ‘Rona’ full.
Wouldn’t change my view one bit. If you are a scaredy-cat, don’t go anywhere. It’s that simple.
I just held a cup in my hand the whole time and didn’t wear a mask - life is okay folks. Go back to LIVING your lives.
I flew 4 legs over the past few days and 3/4 were ‘Rona’ full.
Wouldn’t change my view one bit. If you are a scaredy-cat, don’t go anywhere. It’s that simple.
I just held a cup in my hand the whole time and didn’t wear a mask - life is okay folks. Go back to LIVING your lives.
Sep 10, 2020, 5:09 am
#1460
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: ORD, MDW or MKE
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They should let the policy lapse. The airlines need to make money.
I flew 4 legs over the past few days and 3/4 were ‘Rona’ full.
Wouldn’t change my view one bit. If you are a scaredy-cat, don’t go anywhere. It’s that simple.
I just held a cup in my hand the whole time and didn’t wear a mask - life is okay folks. Go back to LIVING your lives.
I flew 4 legs over the past few days and 3/4 were ‘Rona’ full.
Wouldn’t change my view one bit. If you are a scaredy-cat, don’t go anywhere. It’s that simple.
I just held a cup in my hand the whole time and didn’t wear a mask - life is okay folks. Go back to LIVING your lives.
If I have to drive 2,000 miles in a week, ( which I now regularly do ) then that is what I will do.
Sep 10, 2020, 7:55 am
#1461
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 1,413
Sorry, FriscoHeavy, but that's just bad. Whether you agree with it or not, mask wearing is required by WN. When you buy a ticket, you know that. Circumventing the rule is not cool and is unfair to your fellow passengers who also bought tickets based on the mask wearing rule.
Sep 10, 2020, 8:00 am
#1462
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Sorry, FriscoHeavy, but that's just bad. Whether you agree with it or not, mask wearing is required by WN. When you buy a ticket, you know that. Circumventing the rule is not cool and is unfair to your fellow passengers who also bought tickets based on the mask wearing rule.
I look like an actor -- holding an empty coffee cup walking around, sitting down in my seat and such.
Sep 10, 2020, 8:27 am
#1463
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Airplanes are small enclosed tubes. Even with middle seats blocked you are breathing down someone's neck. That's just how it is. I don't really think blocking middle seats does much good, other than make people feel more comfortable. The business side of me hurts every time I think about an airline purposefully limiting their revenue by x%. It isn't sustainable. I also don't think the airlines can rely on the government to do anything and it's kind of selfish to use their employees as a bargaining chip ("We won't lay off employees if we get another stimulus package"). In my eyes it kind of takes responsibility away from airlines, when they have the power to increase revenue.
It's a shame this has become so politicized. I try and realize everyone is doing the best they can with the information they have. Just because someone isn't as concerned as you, doesn't mean they don't care about you. We are all in survival mode is many ways. Our lives have kind of been put on hold since March and that is a huge loss in many ways.
It's a shame this has become so politicized. I try and realize everyone is doing the best they can with the information they have. Just because someone isn't as concerned as you, doesn't mean they don't care about you. We are all in survival mode is many ways. Our lives have kind of been put on hold since March and that is a huge loss in many ways.
The best alternative is to live your life and if you want to get the vaccine in due time, go for it, but we aren't going to be held hostage forever due to your (others) fear over really big nothing burger for 99.9% of people.
Again, I respect others who choose to be fearful and if they don't want to go some place, that is fine. I don't feel the need to make fun of people who want to act like masks and shields are saving the world. I respect your personal decision to do what's best for you, just as others should respect those of us who will not succumb to an irrational fear and choose to live life. We don't want to be ones that look back and 20 years and be like 'God, can you remember 2020 -- we wasted an entire year living in fear and gave up all freedoms during that time. It's a year we'll never never get back'.
No, my wife and I will look back and say - gosh, we had such a great time making the best of a bad situation. We went out to eat every weekend without a mask, we traveled and saw the world, etc. It will be much more fulfilling when we look back on this.
Now, if I happen to be one of the unlucky ones who gets the Rona and bites the dust, it's okay - I enjoyed life and won't go around blaming everyone else like so many people like to do.
Sep 10, 2020, 8:39 am
#1464
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: St. Louis, MO
Posts: 1,413
Oh well, I'll be doing it again tomorrow. I don't subscribe to the nonsense. I have no issue if others want to wear one, or two, or a full hazmat suit -- that is their decision and I respect what others want to do. I won't go around scared for my life and wearing a mask the rest of my life, especially when I don't have the Rona. If I did have the rona, I wouldn't go out for a few days - that simple.
I look like an actor -- holding an empty coffee cup walking around, sitting down in my seat and such.
I look like an actor -- holding an empty coffee cup walking around, sitting down in my seat and such.
Sep 10, 2020, 8:42 am
#1465
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Respectfully, you're missing my point. I'm not arguing whether masks work or not. I'll stipulate that some people think they do, others think they don't, and even that we don't know for sure which group is correct. I'm not arguing whether WN should have a mask rule or not. My point is that people are buying tickets understanding that they and others on the plane will be wearing masks except for brief periods of time while eating and drinking. You know that, and you're intentionally circumventing the rule. I just think that's selfish and wrong.
Sep 10, 2020, 8:52 am
#1467
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Unfortunately, those of us who want to live a normal life are made out to be villains by the 'the mask is the only solution' crowd and are nazis about it (like the flight attendant Tuesday).
Sep 10, 2020, 10:01 am
#1468
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Sep 10, 2020, 4:01 pm
#1469
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Sep 10, 2020, 4:04 pm
#1470
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