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prasha11 Feb 21, 2014 10:08 am


Originally Posted by Fico2Go (Post 22390886)
Unfortunately some people on this forum have reported much longer periods.

We need to understand that MSing nets a rather small margin per transaction. Any delay or issue can eat up the small margin pretty quickly. Minimizing problems and/or account closure is the key to max profit.

It doesn't make sense to be spending 2 hours to resolve an issue that has profit potential of less than $100.

Are U talking about MVD? When your funds are locked down? faxing the documents repeatedly? trying to log in your account everyday for 2days/2weeks or calling 800 CS? feel like its a wonderful day when you see your account in spend down mode? cannot decide if CA is safe or MO? Now its shut down, so, U can apply for the 5th and the 6th card?
some here are so dedicated, may be are employed to promote it...

Fico2Go Feb 21, 2014 10:09 am


Originally Posted by lad2 (Post 22390944)
That payee probably doesn't except electronic payments. In that case, a paper check has to mailed out. That goes the same for any other bill pay services, not just BB.

I understand. My point is for longterm sustainability the MS community will need to add creativity by converting today's CAs and self BPing to purchase transactions.

Yesterday's practices of risking accounts shutdown will run out of options.

oohaahouch Feb 21, 2014 10:16 am


Originally Posted by prasha11 (Post 22391068)
Are U talking about MVD? When your funds are locked down? faxing the documents repeatedly? trying to log in your account everyday for 2days/2weeks or calling 800 CS? feel like its a wonderful day when you see your account in spend down mode? cannot decide if CA is safe or MO? Now its shut down, so, U can apply for the 5th and the 6th card?
some here are so dedicated, may be are employed to promote it...

Almost every MS activity has a risk attached, why the grunt against mvd?

Fico2Go Feb 21, 2014 10:32 am


Originally Posted by prasha11 (Post 22391068)
Are U talking about MVD? When your funds are locked down? faxing the documents repeatedly? trying to log in your account everyday for 2days/2weeks or calling 800 CS? feel like its a wonderful day when you see your account in spend down mode? cannot decide if CA is safe or MO? Now its shut down, so, U can apply for the 5th and the 6th card?
some here are so dedicated, may be are employed to promote it...


Prasha, I must humbly agree.

I don't see any difference between MVD from any other debit card less the individual daily/monthly loading limits.

Perhaps you haven't found a way to work MVD effectively?

prasha11 Feb 21, 2014 10:35 am


Originally Posted by oohaahouch (Post 22391128)
Almost every MS activity has a risk attached, why the grunt against mvd?

MVD is the only one that locks up the access to your own funds! lets U open a new account after they shut down? What kind of suspicious game is that?

prasha11 Feb 21, 2014 10:41 am


Originally Posted by Fico2Go (Post 22391220)
Prasha, I must humbly agree.

I don't see any difference between MVD from any other debit card less the individual daily/monthly loading limits.

Perhaps you haven't found a way to work MVD effectively?

No one has found a way....or when they don't like, change it.

oohaahouch Feb 21, 2014 10:48 am


Originally Posted by prasha11 (Post 22391237)
MVD is the only one that locks up the access to your own funds! lets U open a new account after they shut down? What kind of suspicious game is that?

Are you anti-mvd because of your prior experience?

lad2 Feb 21, 2014 11:00 am


Originally Posted by prasha11 (Post 22391068)
Are U talking about MVD? When your funds are locked down? faxing the documents repeatedly? trying to log in your account everyday for 2days/2weeks or calling 800 CS? feel like its a wonderful day when you see your account in spend down mode? cannot decide if CA is safe or MO? Now its shut down, so, U can apply for the 5th and the 6th card?
some here are so dedicated, may be are employed to promote it...

Do you even understand what spend down mode is? Their practice of locking up account access has changed according to the latest data points. Even after loosing online access, you can still call in and get your balance via phone AND you can take your money out by swiping the card. You just can't load additional fund anymore. That's not holding onto your fund!

Like others said, I'm sorry you had bad experience with MVD, but you need to move on dude. Things are constantly changing in this game. If you can't keep up with it, then get out of the race, nobody is forcing you to run. But if others can make it work for them, then let them be. You're not helping aanybody by constantly repeating your outdated negative experience.

jan_believes Feb 21, 2014 11:17 am

Sorry to burst in on this passionate discussion but I have a question, please.

I have $500 on the MVD loaded yesterday. I have another $500 VR to load.

If I load it to achieve $1k balance, what is the recommended cash advance amount I should ask for at a bank branch in person? I don't want problems with this too early as I am only in the OJT with this. Not sure I am going to like it anyway. Or should I just go ask for $400 and not load the extra VR yet?

Is $800 a safe amount to ask for if I load the VR? Thanks in advance! :)

oohaahouch Feb 21, 2014 11:22 am


Originally Posted by jan_believes (Post 22391521)
Sorry to burst in on this passionate discussion but I have a question, please.

I have $500 on the MVD loaded yesterday. I have another $500 VR to load.

If I load it to achieve $1k balance, what is the recommended cash advance amount I should ask for at a bank branch in person? I don't want problems with this too early as I am only in the OJT with this. Not sure I am going to like it anyway. Or should I just go ask for $400 and not load the extra VR yet?

Is $800 a safe amount to ask for if I load the VR? Thanks in advance! :)

load and do 1k ^
i am going for my todays 2.5k in an hour, could have saved gas if you were around :)

frugalman Feb 21, 2014 11:25 am


Originally Posted by oohaahouch (Post 22385884)
Almost same experience 10 min ago. Chase says they got a declined when i tried doing a a 6k ca, online shows active, havent called mvd yet. Top it with chase saying they cannot try more than once - go figure!

Just called MVD and got to know the new rule about cash advance is that you can only withdraw up to $2.5K per day and $6.5K per month. The CSR said it is due to MSers that such a rule is set. It is a new rule probably became active just in the past days.

Looking it positively, if this change can make MVD survives (read: die less quickly) from those big MSers (you should realize 99% of us are tiny MSers), it might not be a bad change.

oohaahouch Feb 21, 2014 11:28 am


Originally Posted by frugalman (Post 22391587)
Just called MVD and got to know the new rule about cash advance is that you can only withdraw up to $2.5K per day and $6.5K per month. The CSR said it is due to MSers that such a rule is set. It is a new rule probably became active just in the past days.

Looking it positively, if this change can make MVD survives (read: die less quickly) from those big MSers (you should realize 99% of us are mostly tiny MSers), it might not be a bad change.

ya, was advised the same yesterday 2.5/day 6.5/mo

jan_believes Feb 21, 2014 11:30 am


Originally Posted by oohaahouch (Post 22391562)
load and do 1k ^
i am going for my todays 2.5k in an hour, could have saved gas if you were around :)

====================
WN: SAT to PHX non stop! :D

OH, and what bank you use? Bank of Amigo? (just kiddin')

lad2 Feb 21, 2014 11:31 am


Originally Posted by frugalman (Post 22391587)
Just called MVD and got to know the new rule about cash advance is that you can only withdraw up to $2.5K per day and $6.5K per month. The CSR said it is due to MSers that such a rule is set. It is a new rule probably became active just in the past days.

Looking it positively, if this change can make MVD survives (read: die less quickly) from those big MSers (you should realize 99% of us are tiny MSers), it might not be a bad change.

Thanks for the update.

alik99 Feb 21, 2014 11:52 am


Originally Posted by AlohaDaveKennedy (Post 22389779)
Vanilla Reload has a new screen yesterday and today my attempts to reload an MVD are met with card invalid. Been out of town so had no MVD reload attempts in the past 30 days. Just used the MVD yesterday for a purchase. Have never done any bank CAs. Balance left on MVD is over $100.

Wondering whether the VR new screen and MVD inability to reload are related? Additional datapoints?

I dont think so. Just loaded MVD.


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