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Rommie2k6 Jan 16, 2013 7:39 am

I've been away for a while, but I know that AZ recently required SSN for all accounts. *REQUIRED*, not longer optional.

Has anyone managed to create two accounts with the same SSN, but maybe different name variations, birth date and address, and send money from A->B (unidirectional only), without getting shut down?

I've also seen a few posts that there is no *PUBLIC* way to avoid the SSN requirement for all new AZ accounts. Can someone please PM me the non-public way? Thanks.

AlohaDaveKennedy Jan 16, 2013 11:14 am

Not heard of a nonpublic way yet. Watch the variation business because they may hit you with a request for drivers license and dob information. They appear to be doing an automated look up using data from some service. The lookup process may be the point where AP detects duplicate accounts.



Originally Posted by Rommie2k6 (Post 20058170)
I've been away for a while, but I know that AZ recently required SSN for all accounts. *REQUIRED*, not longer optional.

Has anyone managed to create two accounts with the same SSN, but maybe different name variations, birth date and address, and send money from A->B (unidirectional only), without getting shut down?

I've also seen a few posts that there is no *PUBLIC* way to avoid the SSN requirement for all new AZ accounts. Can someone please PM me the non-public way? Thanks.


iahphx Jan 16, 2013 11:17 am


Originally Posted by AlohaDaveKennedy (Post 20057979)
Yes. the more conservative route is preferable.:cool:

So does this basically mean that there's no practical way to turn back into cash more than $1000/month worth of office supply store gift cards?

5000 points a month are nice, but it's not going to get you too far. I'm a little reluctant to beg friends and family for their social security numbers.

AnitaBryant63 Jan 16, 2013 12:49 pm

Does AP REQUIRE ALL new accounts to have SSN attached to them?

sbbi Jan 16, 2013 1:14 pm

Can a family have multiple AP accounts under different SSNs and send money to one another? will AP shut down account for this case? thanks.

AlohaDaveKennedy Jan 16, 2013 1:21 pm

Social networking comes to mind. Agree that 5k a month is rather low, but when you amp to 75k a day you really are running a business operation and have to think of the game at another level. Miles mean flights at low levels but at higher levels miles are just numbers.


Originally Posted by iahphx (Post 20059655)
So does this basically mean that there's no practical way to turn back into cash more than $1000/month worth of office supply store gift cards?

5000 points a month are nice, but it's not going to get you too far. I'm a little reluctant to beg friends and family for their social security numbers.


AlohaDaveKennedy Jan 16, 2013 1:25 pm

No, only accounts that are moving money. You can create an inventory of shell accounts that basically have zero functionality.


Originally Posted by AnitaBryant63 (Post 20060464)
Does AP REQUIRE ALL new accounts to have SSN attached to them?


shoreline Jan 16, 2013 2:00 pm


Originally Posted by iahphx (Post 20059655)
So does this basically mean that there's no practical way to turn back into cash more than $1000/month worth of office supply store gift cards?

5000 points a month are nice, but it's not going to get you too far. I'm a little reluctant to beg friends and family for their social security numbers.



oh my. such sounds of desparity.:D:(

shoreline Jan 16, 2013 2:06 pm


Originally Posted by sbbi (Post 20060633)
Can a family have multiple AP accounts under different SSNs and send money to one another? will AP shut down account for this case? thanks.

and why would AP want to shut you down for using their site to simply move money around your household from one person to the next in the masses via credit card?

kind of a silly question to openly post.:rolleyes:

if you were going to seriously try this (and I would suggest you not try this), you should probably consider using the PM function with someone from the forum who seems familiar with the topic.

also, i wouldn't suggest risking more than you can afford to be tied up for long periods of time (shall the wrath of AP scout you out).

imho, it's only a matter of time before AP catches those with multiple accounts and sending money to themselves.

nep301 Jan 16, 2013 2:54 pm


Originally Posted by AlohaDaveKennedy (Post 20060732)
No, only accounts that are moving money. You can create an inventory of shell accounts that basically have zero functionality.

Maybe I'm missing something but why would you want to create accounts with no functionality? Is it so you have backups in place when your main account gets shut down?

frenchfrost821 Jan 16, 2013 4:18 pm

Does the recipient have to have a verified bank account in order to receive payments I send to their Amazon account? I would like to pay a friend via my CC, but his bank info is in the process of being verified. Since he doesn't need to transfer the money to his bank account right away, will I still be able to send the money via my CC to his amazon account? Thanks!

webazoid Jan 16, 2013 4:27 pm

Can u load to amazon and then transfer to ur own bank account? Don't know anyone to do amazon payments with

Rommie2k6 Jan 16, 2013 4:31 pm


Originally Posted by AlohaDaveKennedy (Post 20060732)
No, only accounts that are moving money. You can create an inventory of shell accounts that basically have zero functionality.

That's not true, you can't even create a shell account without SSN. When you sign up the first thing they ask if for all personal information including SSN. You can't get past that page at all.

IAkH Jan 16, 2013 6:07 pm


Originally Posted by Rommie2k6 (Post 20062033)
That's not true, you can't even create a shell account without SSN. When you sign up the first thing they ask if for all personal information including SSN. You can't get past that page at all.

au contraire...

shoreline Jan 16, 2013 6:21 pm


Originally Posted by webazoid (Post 20061999)
Can u load to amazon and then transfer to ur own bank account? Don't know anyone to do amazon payments with

you may or may not get a payment through.

but,

extremely risky (I would not suggest this route).


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