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AlohaDaveKennedy Jan 13, 2013 9:27 pm

BoA RoboFanged me with autocalls to verify transactions (which involved replying by phone keypad similiar to the texts referenced). A bit later BoA pulled all 6 of my DDAs down. The use of RoboFang seems to involve more than just transaction validation. I'll wager there is some RoboFang log or note that attaches to the account. When the account is later reviewed, the log or note may serve as a signed confession of guilt (i.e. you must be a heretic if we had to call you so often).

As with Amazonia, the killing of my accounts did not stop my relationship with BoA. In fact, in true zombie fashion I am back, with yet another BoA credit card, and a strange desire to see if Brian Moynihan really tastes just like chicken.:D


Originally Posted by MilesGator (Post 20040179)
I have never received a phone call from any of the cards that I have (Amex, Chase, Citi, BoA). But I have gotten texts asking me to "Reply 1 to verify purchase or Reply 2 to dispute"...or something very similar. I actually appreciate these texts and have never thought of them as being bad. Should I be concerned I'm on a watch list? :D

I received these texts for:
Citi Div_CVS VR purchase (1 500 VR)...rarely use this card
Chase Freedom_CVS VR purchase (1 500 VR)...use this card frequently but not for large purchases
BoA Haw Air_CVS VR purchase (2 500 VR)...just got card & meeting spend
Chase Freedom_out-of-state mom-and-pop liquor store purchase ($30...I forgot to tell Chase I'd be in New Orleans for New Years)


CVG_Kid Jan 13, 2013 10:46 pm

Need some advice. Used AP sporadically in 12. Have two account, one with SSN, one without. One without is unable to send money until I enter SSN/DoB. Send pattern has been consistent A>X, B>Y. Both accounts have same name/address.

How to proceed with the one wanting an SSN/DoB?

IAkH Jan 14, 2013 8:40 am


Originally Posted by CVG_Kid (Post 20041805)
Need some advice. Used AP sporadically in 12. Have two account, one with SSN, one without. One without is unable to send money until I enter SSN/DoB. Send pattern has been consistent A>X, B>Y. Both accounts have same name/address.

How to proceed with the one wanting an SSN/DoB?

Read the last few pages. You have to input SSN to send or receive now. No known [public] workaround

CVG_Kid Jan 14, 2013 9:15 am


Originally Posted by IAkH (Post 20043687)
Read the last few pages. You have to input SSN to send or receive now. No known [public] workaround

I read everything from December 31 on but there was some offline discussion.

So if I have two accounts with the same SSN it's just a toss up whether they'll shut down one or both? I've read reports of both.

member7777 Jan 14, 2013 9:23 am


Originally Posted by CVG_Kid (Post 20043882)
I read everything from December 31 on but there was some offline discussion.

So if I have two accounts with the same SSN it's just a toss up whether they'll shut down one or both? I've read reports of both.

I think I am going with the unsubstantiated theory that the scare we had recently was a warning shot across the bow, but I am probably going to press on, 2 ss# accounts not withstanding
edit
I will add that i load and transfer within 1 minute of load

AlohaDaveKennedy Jan 14, 2013 9:26 am

Be 99.99% certain one or both will be shut down. Just a matter of time.


Originally Posted by CVG_Kid (Post 20043882)
I read everything from December 31 on but there was some offline discussion.

So if I have two accounts with the same SSN it's just a toss up whether they'll shut down one or both? I've read reports of both.


member7777 Jan 14, 2013 9:47 am


Originally Posted by AlohaDaveKennedy (Post 20043957)
Be 99.99% certain one or both will be shut down. Just a matter of time.

ADK-
do you think they would trap you-allow you to load but not instantaneously transfer?
I don't mind being shut down but I dont want them to eff with my hard earned
OD/VR cash

ThePointsCollector Jan 14, 2013 10:02 am


Originally Posted by member7777 (Post 20044100)
ADK-
do you think they would trap you-allow you to load but not instantaneously transfer?
I don't mind being shut down but I dont want them to eff with my hard earned
OD/VR cash

I don't think they want anyone to eff with their system either.

isobro Jan 14, 2013 5:43 pm


Originally Posted by member7777 (Post 20043935)
but I am probably going to press on, 2 ss# accounts not withstanding

Thug life :)

Topgoose12 Jan 14, 2013 5:59 pm

This entire post made me go cross-eyed!

AP is obv a great option, but just like using credit cards, you can't depend on something that isn't gauranteed to secure your money. it's the same thing when ppl assume i'm irresponsible b/c i have so many CCs...it's not a business issue, it's a consumer issue.

thankfully i've been able to use AP without issues, but i've also been blessed to have family members who will throw their purchases on my cards (large purchases, business purchases) so i can meet my spend. no one loses money and flags aren't raised.

AP will go away eventually, so prepare, folks!

agent0068 Jan 15, 2013 12:31 pm

quick question...i should have some debit/GCs shortly and understand how to go about liquidating those in AP. my q: if i have a good number of those, can i purge those all in one go or will i have to spread that over a number of weeks/months to avoid any dangerous jungle predators?

AlohaDaveKennedy Jan 15, 2013 1:39 pm

100% yes. AP is right now holding several hundred dollars captive they allowed to go into the account as a purchase but not to be transferred out to the bank account. The account was closed right after the transfer was initiated.

My evil twins over there have a downright wicked sense of humor.:p



Originally Posted by member7777 (Post 20044100)
ADK-
do you think they would trap you-allow you to load but not instantaneously transfer?
I don't mind being shut down but I dont want them to eff with my hard earned
OD/VR cash


AlohaDaveKennedy Jan 15, 2013 1:40 pm

Don't risk any more money than you can afford to be locked up for 90+ days.


Originally Posted by agent0068 (Post 20052390)
quick question...i should have some debit/GCs shortly and understand how to go about liquidating those in AP. my q: if i have a good number of those, can i purge those all in one go or will i have to spread that over a number of weeks/months to avoid any dangerous jungle predators?


AlohaDaveKennedy Jan 15, 2013 1:47 pm

Unless it is their own people laundering money. Gotta ask why the poor internal controls - random chance or a means to an end? Wanna bet we find a school of trout in their milk?

"Some circumstantial evidence is very strong, as when you find a trout in the milk." -- Henry David Thoreau


Originally Posted by Bored_Russian (Post 20044190)
I don't think they want anyone to eff with their system either.


nep301 Jan 15, 2013 1:52 pm


Originally Posted by member7777 (Post 20043935)
I think I am going with the unsubstantiated theory that the scare we had recently was a warning shot across the bow, but I am probably going to press on, 2 ss# accounts not withstanding
edit
I will add that i load and transfer within 1 minute of load

Even if you do load and transfer within 1 minute of each other, Amazon can still reverse the transaction if they suspect anything.


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