logged into my wife's account and managed to initiate a transfer to her back account, so looks like everything's back to normal :)

strongly agree with AlohaDaveKennedy -- two accounts with the same SSN etc. are a quick and easy way to get caught up in a round-up, so i'd be very very careful with that..

You have no idea what you are talking about. There is a difference between knowing what works and guessing.

Thanks for putting the speculators posing as players in their place. There is no rhyme nor reason to any of these vehicles, except that if bad programming was against the law the prisons would be full of them...

Exactly why no one should ask or solicit your advice. Your accounts are frozen for a reason. If you cannot make this deal work for yourself, you should not be handing out advice to others.

Everything one needs to know on how to make this work is within the thread. It's the people who are trying to "push" the limits that get their accounts frozen. There was a time probably around when you got banned the first time around.. that Amazon told people what the limits were.

You got greedy.. now you can only try and deceive them into letting you back in. Which could more than likely puts any credit card you use at risk of being closed if you go about this in a fraudulent way.

Uh oh he said it.... ffffffffrauuuu....du...lent.

was going to delete, but got quoted.

I suspect these will all be deleted by mods soon.

Everyone here has an opinion, but I think it's inappropriate to speculate frra ud upon fellow FT'ers (just another opinion, of course).




I think AD is/was willing to take risk to find out what works and what does not.

Therefore, it is the risk takers who give fair warning to others about what did not work.

So, for that, I applaud him.



I think this is mere speculation and inappropriate to accuse him of. (just my opinion).;)

Sorry to have to disagree.

There is a difference between risk and calculated risk. What is there to applaud? He only is regurgitating information already given mixed in with his "opinions" that have no basis. He is simply wanting to join in on the conversation out of boredom maybe? The problem is that when people like him post over and over and don't know what they are talking about... they make it more difficult for other members to find the real information.

So in my opinion, this member is simply tampering with the signal to noise ratio in this thread to make it more difficult for others to find information, and also to fluff their post count.

If he is so helpful... why is he not explaining his success and failures at getting back in the game? He has stated that he was banned.. and that he has made attempts to get back in the game.. only to have his account(s) frozen.

You would think that he would want to share this information as getting one's account frozen must be a very difficult situation to go through. One would think if he was trying to be helpful he would tell people how to avoid this.

ADK has a well-founded reputation for being quite helpful via PM.

The relationship between forum posting history/contents and relevant knowledge/experience on a given topic is certainly not perfect--at least in this case. As someone who has benefited from and appreciates the information Astrophsx and member7777 have shared elsewhere, in this case both have no idea whether I have any idea what I'm talking about.

They're as free as anyone else to discount what I have to say, but I posted because the same issue came up for a friend last week after not having any problems for a while. Rushing to judgment doesn't bother me personally (again, because you have no idea whether I know what I'm talking about), but it also adds no value. Asking for details or sharing your own experiences in this context might have been more useful to others.

Someone who finds and shares the limits of a deal is not necessarily the same thing as someone who "cannot make this deal work" as you've suggested. Learning those limits is often what makes threads like this valuable. If you have substantive evidence or experience that contradicts ours, the community might benefit from your sharing that more than baseless criticism.

These past few posts were made in the context of *recent changes* to AP account verification/suspension practices, which have less (though certainly not zero) relevance to the past 2+ years of discussion in this thread. I completely agree that it's always worth reading the thread, but that doesn't necessarily mean things will never change. In this case, it certainly appears that they had.

This may be something he chose via PM with those he may so choose and those not attacking him.

As far as your comment about him trying to get his post count up---well, I think that's really silly.

He often hands out advice or comments to try to help others.

Some of the attacks on people here can be quite bewildering and unnecessary.:rolleyes:

The above post is why I took the time to comment. It is false information, there is no elevated risk in not breaking up your payments. I started out breaking up my payments at the very start, but have had no trouble with NOT breaking them up now.

I could give you a list of everyone I've explained the process to. I have no had on PM saying they've been banned. So I'm backing my opinion with something :)

I always appreciate it when he gently reminds others to keep the "tradecraft" off the board lest it be exploited by the masses. People who dont know what they're doing should be discouraged from attempting anything that risks everybody's accounts, and a few decoys here and there shouldn't throw off anybody that knows what they're talking about.

Imagine that? Same could be said about the now-defunct US Mint deal, and any number of other deals talked about on FT where the customer uses the product in a way that's clearly a money-loser for the merchant, yet ends up acting like they are a put-upon victim.