Paris luxury hotels (consolidated thread)
Apr 9, 2017, 11:55 am
#496
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On the left is brunei house
Apr 9, 2017, 12:20 pm
#497
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19 also includes a spa and a law firm office, at least
maybe leases to event company too (odd if brunei?)
3-5 listed as brunei residence in court/public records
uggboy, brunei (all dorchester hotels) not unique, but only one discussed
owned by certain goverments >
abu dhabi - FS, rosewood, PH, RC ; Lanesborough, edition LON/MIA/NYC, 50% viceroy brand
dubai - al maha, PH ; O&O wolgan, O&O brand, 73% MO NY, 50% singita kruger
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seems brunei bought BHH in 1987, bel air in 1995
maybe leases to event company too (odd if brunei?)
3-5 listed as brunei residence in court/public records
uggboy, brunei (all dorchester hotels) not unique, but only one discussed
owned by certain goverments >
abu dhabi - FS, rosewood, PH, RC ; Lanesborough, edition LON/MIA/NYC, 50% viceroy brand
dubai - al maha, PH ; O&O wolgan, O&O brand, 73% MO NY, 50% singita kruger
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seems brunei bought BHH in 1987, bel air in 1995
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Apr 9, 2017, 2:24 pm
#498
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uggboy, brunei not unique, but only one discussed
owned by certain goverments >
abu dhabi - FS, rosewood, PH, RC
dubai - OO wolgan, al maha
qatar - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post28009571[/QUOTE]
IIRC Dorchester was "disliked" because of the brunei position on the gay ?
Is it true that he bought the BH hotel to ease his daughter wedding ?
owned by certain goverments >
abu dhabi - FS, rosewood, PH, RC
dubai - OO wolgan, al maha
qatar - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post28009571[/QUOTE]
IIRC Dorchester was "disliked" because of the brunei position on the gay ?
Is it true that he bought the BH hotel to ease his daughter wedding ?
Apr 9, 2017, 2:27 pm
#499
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19 also includes a spa and a law firm office, at least
maybe leases to event company too (odd if brunei?)
3-5 listed as brunei residence in court/public records
uggboy, brunei not unique, but only one discussed
owned by certain goverments >
abu dhabi - FS, rosewood, PH, RC
dubai - OO wolgan, al maha
qatar - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post28009571
maybe leases to event company too (odd if brunei?)
3-5 listed as brunei residence in court/public records
uggboy, brunei not unique, but only one discussed
owned by certain goverments >
abu dhabi - FS, rosewood, PH, RC
dubai - OO wolgan, al maha
qatar - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post28009571
Apr 10, 2017, 6:58 am
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uggboy, brunei not unique, but only one discussed
owned by certain goverments >
abu dhabi - FS, rosewood, PH, RC
dubai - OO wolgan, al maha
qatar - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post28009571
owned by certain goverments >
abu dhabi - FS, rosewood, PH, RC
dubai - OO wolgan, al maha
qatar - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post28009571
Is it true that he bought the BH hotel to ease his daughter wedding ?[/QUOTE]
Excactly. The other ones are also not well known for being over the top tolerant. The position to gays is only the icing on the top. If we start with this the list of "ethical correct" properties and vacation-spots comes down to not too many.
Apr 12, 2017, 5:50 am
#501
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Any specific hotel recommendations for Paris ?
I am planning to visit Paris during the first quarter of June. I am little bit confused on choosing a hotel. We (me and my wife) will be staying there for 3 days. I am first timer to Paris - so usual drill - view of Eiffel tower, privacy,etc. Also closer to key sights will be a bonus.
Any first timer 101 tips will be awesome (I bought the Lonely Planet Paris guide which confused me more :P ). Thanks
Any first timer 101 tips will be awesome (I bought the Lonely Planet Paris guide which confused me more :P ). Thanks
Last edited by risingstar; Apr 12, 2017 at 5:52 am Reason: fixed grammar
Apr 12, 2017, 6:06 am
#502
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Shangri-La Paris has great views of the Eiffel Tower and Seine River. They have a Duplex suite with amazing views of both.
A couple quick tips to save you time.
Catacombs I'd recommend using a reputable tour company to avoid the lines. I've seen it exceed 3-4 hours as there's a limited number of people allowed in the catacombs at once. Also the Louvre look up the "secret" entrances (Metro locations and others) if you're going to go there, the main line outside can easily be 1-2 hours. Again a reputable tour company can also bypass this too.
The food ahh... so much good food and other things to do. Paris is great and as far as recommendations it really depends on what you're looking to do, what things you and your wife like.
A couple quick tips to save you time.
Catacombs I'd recommend using a reputable tour company to avoid the lines. I've seen it exceed 3-4 hours as there's a limited number of people allowed in the catacombs at once. Also the Louvre look up the "secret" entrances (Metro locations and others) if you're going to go there, the main line outside can easily be 1-2 hours. Again a reputable tour company can also bypass this too.
The food ahh... so much good food and other things to do. Paris is great and as far as recommendations it really depends on what you're looking to do, what things you and your wife like.
Apr 12, 2017, 8:18 am
#503
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In Paris I would instinctively avoid the big international hotel chains - Four Seasons, Shangri-La, Mandarin Oriental etc etc. Go for something less blingy-glitzy and find somewhere with lots of genuine character, like the Pavilion de la Reine, on the most beautiful square in the city.
Apr 12, 2017, 8:27 am
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I personally feel having a view of the Eiffel Tower view is overrated ... but as Jason said, you'll have a great view from half of the rooms at the Shangri-La and a side view from the front-facing rooms at the Plaza Athenee.
However, I'd rather be more central. My favorite hotel in Paris is Le Meurice because you're literally in the heart of Paris and can walk to most of the major sights. There are Executive rooms at Le Meurice with a view of the Eiffel Tower - but I don't think it's worth paying for the view.
Here's a link to my September 2016 reviews of Paris hotels.
However, I'd rather be more central. My favorite hotel in Paris is Le Meurice because you're literally in the heart of Paris and can walk to most of the major sights. There are Executive rooms at Le Meurice with a view of the Eiffel Tower - but I don't think it's worth paying for the view.
Here's a link to my September 2016 reviews of Paris hotels.
Apr 12, 2017, 10:12 am
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Apr 12, 2017, 10:42 am
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Quintessentially Parisian and utterly delightful, central location: Le Bristol.
But you can't go wrong with most of the venues suggested herein. Ditto on avoiding FS, MO and other name brand luxury.
Attend a concert at Norte Dame thereby avoiding the lengthy lines whilst enjoying sublime music. Tour the Garnier Opera (Chagall mural inside the dome).
But you can't go wrong with most of the venues suggested herein. Ditto on avoiding FS, MO and other name brand luxury.
Attend a concert at Norte Dame thereby avoiding the lengthy lines whilst enjoying sublime music. Tour the Garnier Opera (Chagall mural inside the dome).
Apr 12, 2017, 1:48 pm
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Also review the discussion and reviews here:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...thread-34.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...rhyped-20.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...riental-4.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...thread-34.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...rhyped-20.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...riental-4.html
Apr 12, 2017, 2:05 pm
#508
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I highly recommend the premier junior suite (Eiffel tower view) at the superbly designed La Reserve.
Apr 12, 2017, 3:39 pm
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It would depend on your budget and time of visit.
Apr 12, 2017, 5:17 pm
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Welcome to Flyertalk, risingstar! I am not sure that this is a request for a luxury hotel but will assume that it is. We already have an excellent ongoing thread on Paris luxury hotels so I am going to combine this thread with that one.
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