JohnRain

That's right.

MacMyDay

I felt the same too. It was not particularly warm around the pool either.

scented

Don't know what makes people stay at Le Royal Monceau. Clarins in the Spa, that's like Nespresso or McDonald's in the restaurant. Oh wait, don't they serve Nespresso in the restaurant? The design is a nightmare. The only positive aspect I see are their lavish welcome amenities plus personalized gifts for VIPs and speciality suite guests. Thankfully Paris has more than enough wonderful options.

DSI

I looked online and read that Crillion was supposed to open in 2015. It's 2017, right?

wripro

I happen to love the pool and spa at the Shangri-La. Worth checking out.

Epicura

Haven't stayed at Le Royal Monceau lately but I don't think it's fair to fault a hotel/spa for using Clarins products, let alone to compare this brand with McDonalds. Of course it's also a personal matter of liking/disliking but in terms of objective standards, Clarins remains a high-end brand and is far superior to most of the standard amenities offered in top 5* Paris properties. If you really want to compare with McDonalds, brands should be ones that are commonly found in the supermarket like L'Oréal etc. If you dislike Clarins, fine by me but really no reason to compare with McDonalds.

+1

Shangri La offers by far the nicest pool area it that matters. For good service I would also recommend Shangri La over the classic Grandes Dames. Same for Prince de Galles. These hotels don't take their guests for granted and are far from the classic snobbery that's unfortunately so common amongst Paris top properties.

obscure2k

Several years ago I stayed at Hotel Costes. I wouldn't put it in the same league as many of the luxury hotels we have discussed in this thread but it was pretty good and the pool looked nice, although did not use.

KatW

We've abided thrice at Le Bristol and never have used the pool. Personal choice, not what I go to Paris to do. Then, too, there are those for whom a swim workout is just the ticket.

DSI

Le Roch Hotel and Spa looks very nice online. The indulgence suite and le roch suites look superb. Might be nice to mix things up with something that's not part of the FHR buying program, too.

The pool area at Le Bristol was super humid. I think more windows need to be opened. It's also so small that it really doesn't lend itself to swimming, just splashing.

callmedtop

Location of Shangri-La seems less than ideal, no? That's my biggest reservation with the property.

Epicura

Depends on your personal needs obviously but I don't think the location of Shangri-La is an issue TBH. It's a 10 minutes walk from the George V for instance, less than 1 km. Many rooms offer great views of the Eiffel tower at night, which can be an asset, especially for tourists/first time visitors.

Admittedly I live less than 3 hours from Paris and we visit Paris several times a year, so the location of our hotel is not a top priority, apart from specific occasions/meetings etc.

QPRfan

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vuittonsofstyle

2018

wripro

I don't think the location is a problem either. You can walk down the Avenue President Wilson and be at Avenue Montiagne in terminates or cross over the Pont Alma to the 7th. I found it far more convenient than the Pen which is only convenient to the Champs Elysees. Plus they have a house car service which they will often offer free of charge to get you anywhere. To me though once I'm inside the Shangdi-La I feel cosseted and pampered and it's just the right size.

TravMavAlexis

Thank you, David! Very helpful!