M&M Flight Award Booking - FAQ and Help Thread
#1186
Join Date: May 2013
Location: GVA, BSL, ZRH
Programs: A3*, HH, club carlson: all gold and bonvoy plat
Posts: 466
Hi, I'm trying to book an award like this: ZHT-ZRH-FRA-IAH.
Online I get ZRH-FRA-IAH with availability.
as soon as I add ZHT in front, it suggests me ZHT-ZRH-XXX-YYY-IAH but from ZRH on with some other flights, which are much less convenient.
I tried to call since all the flights (seen separately) show availability. But the agent couldn't (didn't want to?) book by segment. ZHT-ZRH showed her no availability at all. At the end I asked her to start only with the ZRH-FRA-IAH itinerary and even then she couldn't find availability for the ZRH-FRA segment. After the call, I checked again online and it is available.
1. First, why do call agent have less available flights/seats than online? Is that possible/true?
2. Why can't the call agent book by segment?
3. Is there any workaround for "complexe" booking, like by e-mail?
4. I'm a blue member. That means I only have access to call agents based outside of Europe. I tried the french and the english line; both were unable to book it.
I gladly take any advice on how to book this. Much appreciated.
And sorry if it has been already discussed here. My search in this thread didn't point me at any solutions.
Online I get ZRH-FRA-IAH with availability.
as soon as I add ZHT in front, it suggests me ZHT-ZRH-XXX-YYY-IAH but from ZRH on with some other flights, which are much less convenient.
I tried to call since all the flights (seen separately) show availability. But the agent couldn't (didn't want to?) book by segment. ZHT-ZRH showed her no availability at all. At the end I asked her to start only with the ZRH-FRA-IAH itinerary and even then she couldn't find availability for the ZRH-FRA segment. After the call, I checked again online and it is available.
1. First, why do call agent have less available flights/seats than online? Is that possible/true?
2. Why can't the call agent book by segment?
3. Is there any workaround for "complexe" booking, like by e-mail?
4. I'm a blue member. That means I only have access to call agents based outside of Europe. I tried the french and the english line; both were unable to book it.
I gladly take any advice on how to book this. Much appreciated.
And sorry if it has been already discussed here. My search in this thread didn't point me at any solutions.
#1187
Join Date: May 2004
Location: SIN (LEJ once a year)
Programs: SQ, LH, BA, IHG Diamond AMB, HH Gold, SLH Indulged, Accor Gold, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 7,739
Are you that set on getting the ZHT-ZRH train segment onto the itinerary? Concerned about being protected in case if delays/ misconnect?
For starters, in my experience with call centers in Philippines and such, they will have a different POS (point of sale) than M&M website (Germany) and those agents couldn't even book the LH train segments that website showed either. They said they don't have access.
If it was me, I'd just book ZRH-FRA-IAD ... trip that is available online and go with that and buy separate train tickets from Geneva and buffer my connection time to have at least 1 subsequent train with which I could still make the connection. A risk remains though in such cases. An overnight stop in ZRH would be another option, but more cost for hotel.
For starters, in my experience with call centers in Philippines and such, they will have a different POS (point of sale) than M&M website (Germany) and those agents couldn't even book the LH train segments that website showed either. They said they don't have access.
If it was me, I'd just book ZRH-FRA-IAD ... trip that is available online and go with that and buy separate train tickets from Geneva and buffer my connection time to have at least 1 subsequent train with which I could still make the connection. A risk remains though in such cases. An overnight stop in ZRH would be another option, but more cost for hotel.
#1188
Join Date: May 2013
Location: GVA, BSL, ZRH
Programs: A3*, HH, club carlson: all gold and bonvoy plat
Posts: 466
Are you that set on getting the ZHT-ZRH train segment onto the itinerary? Concerned about being protected in case if delays/ misconnect?
For starters, in my experience with call centers in Philippines and such, they will have a different POS (point of sale) than M&M website (Germany) and those agents couldn't even book the LH train segments that website showed either. ....
For starters, in my experience with call centers in Philippines and such, they will have a different POS (point of sale) than M&M website (Germany) and those agents couldn't even book the LH train segments that website showed either. ....
I called the german call center and got directed to a german call agent. Her knowledge and professionalism was just at another level than the ones I had this morning (french in Africa and english in Asia),
You were most certainly right about the POS. This time the availability was there .
#1189
Join Date: Oct 2013
Programs: Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond, TK Elite Plus, QR Gold, AF Gold
Posts: 93
I am trying to book award ticket with two segments operated by Copa (route: US-PTY with 22h connection-Central America). There is definitely an availability for each flight (double checked), I can go to payment and then I get an error (we can't confirm availability...). I spoke to the M&M agent and she also tried to book this itinerary for me but even though she had seats available, she couldn't create PNR. She doesn't know why. Any ideas? Is this some common problem with Copa and M&M? Exactly the same itinerary is available on the Copa website without any issues, so I guess it's not a problem of the route, specific legs etc.
#1190
Join Date: Dec 2006
Programs: LH SEN, FB Plat., HH D.
Posts: 5,050
I am trying to book award ticket with two segments operated by Copa (route: US-PTY with 22h connection-Central America). There is definitely an availability for each flight (double checked), I can go to payment and then I get an error (we can't confirm availability...). I spoke to the M&M agent and she also tried to book this itinerary for me but even though she had seats available, she couldn't create PNR. She doesn't know why. Any ideas? Is this some common problem with Copa and M&M? Exactly the same itinerary is available on the Copa website without any issues, so I guess it's not a problem of the route, specific legs etc.
Hope someone at M&M can help.
#1191
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: C2, BTS, VIE
Programs: A3 *G, AA Exec Plat Pro, Accor Silver, IHG Plat, HH Diamond, PP
Posts: 321
Is TAP award inventory non-existent with MM? My initial interest was to book VIE>LIS>SID with TAP and upon searching I could not find neither VIE>LIS or LIS>SID on TAP Metal., no dates, neither Y or C... called MM hotline and they told me the same...
#1192
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Frankfurt am Main, Germany
Programs: LH MM SEN & many others+++
Posts: 353
SEN overdraft 50kMM
hello there,
I was functioning under the impression that, as a SEN, you can overdraft for up to 50k miles.
However, trying to make a booking for 79500 miles when I currently have in my account 43000 miles I got an error "insufficient miles".
Can you please advise how this works?
Should I call the support line and they will be credited?... or make the reservation only over the phone...? anyone ever got advantage of this?
thanks
I was functioning under the impression that, as a SEN, you can overdraft for up to 50k miles.
However, trying to make a booking for 79500 miles when I currently have in my account 43000 miles I got an error "insufficient miles".
Can you please advise how this works?
Should I call the support line and they will be credited?... or make the reservation only over the phone...? anyone ever got advantage of this?
thanks
#1193
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: MUC/PAR/MIA
Programs: LH SEN; DL PM; Hertz PC; Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 197
hello there,
I was functioning under the impression that, as a SEN, you can overdraft for up to 50k miles.
However, trying to make a booking for 79500 miles when I currently have in my account 43000 miles I got an error "insufficient miles".
Can you please advise how this works?
Should I call the support line and they will be credited?... or make the reservation only over the phone...? anyone ever got advantage of this?
thanks
I was functioning under the impression that, as a SEN, you can overdraft for up to 50k miles.
However, trying to make a booking for 79500 miles when I currently have in my account 43000 miles I got an error "insufficient miles".
Can you please advise how this works?
Should I call the support line and they will be credited?... or make the reservation only over the phone...? anyone ever got advantage of this?
thanks
#1194
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Frankfurt am Main, Germany
Programs: LH MM SEN & many others+++
Posts: 353
#1196
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Frankfurt am Main, Germany
Programs: LH MM SEN & many others+++
Posts: 353
thanks, oliver2002 .
Only these days have I realised how much easier is to book two one-way award tickets instead of a round trip.
This should be *sticky* to this thread .
Only these days have I realised how much easier is to book two one-way award tickets instead of a round trip.
This should be *sticky* to this thread .
#1197
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: WAW
Programs: LH SEN *
Posts: 1,153
#1198
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Frankfurt am Main, Germany
Programs: LH MM SEN & many others+++
Posts: 353
true, but this inconvenience fades away when you sit on 200k miles and yet, your preferred destination is unavailable just because there are no RTs - but you discover plenty of OWs. What u gonna do with your miles, buy rimowa?