M&M Flight Award Booking - FAQ and Help Thread
#1171
Join Date: May 2004
Location: SIN (LEJ once a year)
Programs: SQ, LH, BA, IHG Diamond AMB, HH Gold, SLH Indulged, Accor Gold, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 7,665
If you would be using LH M&M miles to book TK award flights for say DXB-IST-FRA and later there are available seats on direct flight DXB-FRA then it is possible to switch against a 50 per ticket (so for each of the 5 pax) fee. IIRC, that part is allowed even after the award is ticketed as long as you change from connecting flight to direct with same start and end point. YMMV
#1172
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 48,001
The change fee is currently waived, so as long as O&D stay the same you can change anytime availability opens up.
#1173
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: C2, BTS, VIE
Programs: A3 *G, AA Exec Plat Pro, Accor Silver, IHG Plat, HH Diamond, PP
Posts: 320
Hmm, good point, that would work, thanky you, but unfortunately MM only has 4 seats available (DXB>IST>VIE), so my plan is to book 4 pieces on MM and the 5th piece on TK, as it seems that TK has more award seats available.... Is it possible to book 4 in C and 1 one in Eco under a single reservation with MM? That would give me flexibility and in the worst case, cancel the eco seat and book C on TK late. Thanks
#1174
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: Frankfurt am Main, Germany
Programs: LH MM SEN & many others+++
Posts: 341
Hello all,
I'm trying to book an award, at least for me, ideally for me + missus. I'm still *G and may apply 50% companion.
Ideal outbound: FRA
Ideal inbound: SFO
Ideal dates: 07/10/23 - 21/10/23
Flexibility extended to
Departure anywhere from DE, F, LUX, B, NL, CH, A, H, PL.
Destination South-West Coast: SAN, LAX, SJC, SFO, OAK, SMF.
Period: 2 weeks, must be there from 8-OCT-23 to 14-OCT-23.
We only consider J. No PE, no Eco. I don't dream of A, but I'll take it if the opportunity presents itself.
My extended searches (109 until now) have led to disappointing results. There is a flight on 17/10, but I must be there on 8th - so is no good.
Eventually, I can leave much earlier, like 30/09, but no results on that period either.
Realistically, I expect some availability from German airports to SFO. LAX seems harder to book.
But I've run a full search, including
a) all German airports vs all possible destinations
b) all major airports from the above-mentioned countries vs only SFO/LAX.
109 searches, nothing which may suit me.
On a separate note: the March bargain lists SFO as a discounted J destination 15/06-31/07 with only 55k, but even that's impossible to find.
All quotes are 112k. And it wouldn't match my extended criteria anyway, but I was curious if that actually exists. It seems to be just a unicorn.
I'll take any advice.
Do you think I have better luck if I call the SEN line?
Thanks
I'm trying to book an award, at least for me, ideally for me + missus. I'm still *G and may apply 50% companion.
Ideal outbound: FRA
Ideal inbound: SFO
Ideal dates: 07/10/23 - 21/10/23
Flexibility extended to
Departure anywhere from DE, F, LUX, B, NL, CH, A, H, PL.
Destination South-West Coast: SAN, LAX, SJC, SFO, OAK, SMF.
Period: 2 weeks, must be there from 8-OCT-23 to 14-OCT-23.
We only consider J. No PE, no Eco. I don't dream of A, but I'll take it if the opportunity presents itself.
My extended searches (109 until now) have led to disappointing results. There is a flight on 17/10, but I must be there on 8th - so is no good.
Eventually, I can leave much earlier, like 30/09, but no results on that period either.
Realistically, I expect some availability from German airports to SFO. LAX seems harder to book.
But I've run a full search, including
a) all German airports vs all possible destinations
b) all major airports from the above-mentioned countries vs only SFO/LAX.
109 searches, nothing which may suit me.
On a separate note: the March bargain lists SFO as a discounted J destination 15/06-31/07 with only 55k, but even that's impossible to find.
All quotes are 112k. And it wouldn't match my extended criteria anyway, but I was curious if that actually exists. It seems to be just a unicorn.
I'll take any advice.
Do you think I have better luck if I call the SEN line?
Thanks
#1176
Join Date: Oct 2018
Programs: LH FTL, FB Gold
Posts: 131
Hi all,
I feel dumb every time I try to book an award but the thousand of rules and the ...... M&M platform doesn't help.
I'm trying to book an award for both my parents (they have 255k miles) for a CH to DEN flight (in Eco+ or Biz) for September but with the trick of getting a return ticket six weeks later (which is not possible right?), and obviously ideally flexible (well parents).
Is there a way to go about this through the M&M platform ? Should I just call - would there more availabilty ? Should I book a normal eco flight and upgrade with miles ?
Would be grateful for tips. Thanks.
I feel dumb every time I try to book an award but the thousand of rules and the ...... M&M platform doesn't help.
I'm trying to book an award for both my parents (they have 255k miles) for a CH to DEN flight (in Eco+ or Biz) for September but with the trick of getting a return ticket six weeks later (which is not possible right?), and obviously ideally flexible (well parents).
Is there a way to go about this through the M&M platform ? Should I just call - would there more availabilty ? Should I book a normal eco flight and upgrade with miles ?
Would be grateful for tips. Thanks.
#1178
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Stuck on this planet - mainly in STR and LAX
Posts: 5,019
You could also book two one-ways. Disadvantages: double the cost for cancellation, also higher taxes for the ex-US flight. But keep in mind that your parents most likely need a return flight for US immigration.
#1179
Join Date: Oct 2018
Programs: LH FTL, FB Gold
Posts: 131
#1181
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: MIL, PAR
Programs: FB Gold (E+),TK Elite(*A Gold)
Posts: 683
Hi everyone, this post is to ask if something has changed in award availability (MIles&More on LH flights).
I usually booked awards on M&M website with 8 to 11 months advance but I noticed that most of flights between FRA and Spain (AGP or SVQ to name few) from JANUARY 2024 till latest dates available (APRIL/MAY 2024) do NOT show any availability (ECO or BIZ).
To me it sounds strange because until few weeks ago there was plenty on March 2024 : now the month has disappeared from booking "offers" shown under booking mask....
Even if I am aware of the existence of a big German community in Southern Spain, it sounds incredible there are just few flights left in January 2024 and nothing after while you can obviously buy flights (without using points/miles) until early May 2024 .
Do they upload availabilities to some routes much later than in the past?
I usually booked awards on M&M website with 8 to 11 months advance but I noticed that most of flights between FRA and Spain (AGP or SVQ to name few) from JANUARY 2024 till latest dates available (APRIL/MAY 2024) do NOT show any availability (ECO or BIZ).
To me it sounds strange because until few weeks ago there was plenty on March 2024 : now the month has disappeared from booking "offers" shown under booking mask....
Even if I am aware of the existence of a big German community in Southern Spain, it sounds incredible there are just few flights left in January 2024 and nothing after while you can obviously buy flights (without using points/miles) until early May 2024 .
Do they upload availabilities to some routes much later than in the past?
#1182
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: MIL, PAR
Programs: FB Gold (E+),TK Elite(*A Gold)
Posts: 683
Hi everyone, do you think these changes in Status qualification (and related booking fares) is holding LH to release M&M award tickets availabilities in early 2024 in LH flights?
In theory this should not be the case but maybe they are rethinking the whole fares system and so the "leftovers" like the awards.
I ask you this because I noticed that most of flights between FRA and Spain (AGP or SVQ to name few) from JANUARY 2024 till latest dates available (APRIL/MAY 2024) do NOT show any availability (ECO or BIZ).
To me it sounds strange because until few weeks ago there was plenty on March 2024 : now the month has disappeared from booking "offers" shown under booking mask....
Even if I am aware of the existence of a big German community in Southern Spain, it sounds incredible there are just few flights left in January 2024 and nothing after while you can obviously buy flights (without using points/miles) until early May 2024 .
Are they uploading availabilities to some routes much later than in the past?
Anyone else noticed it?
In theory this should not be the case but maybe they are rethinking the whole fares system and so the "leftovers" like the awards.
I ask you this because I noticed that most of flights between FRA and Spain (AGP or SVQ to name few) from JANUARY 2024 till latest dates available (APRIL/MAY 2024) do NOT show any availability (ECO or BIZ).
To me it sounds strange because until few weeks ago there was plenty on March 2024 : now the month has disappeared from booking "offers" shown under booking mask....
Even if I am aware of the existence of a big German community in Southern Spain, it sounds incredible there are just few flights left in January 2024 and nothing after while you can obviously buy flights (without using points/miles) until early May 2024 .
Are they uploading availabilities to some routes much later than in the past?
Anyone else noticed it?
#1183
Moderator: Lufthansa Miles & More, India based airlines, India, External Miles & Points Resources
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: MUC
Programs: LH SEN
Posts: 48,001
Award inventory is first loaded 300 days out. That said the W23/24 schedule has not been firmed yet and LH will finalise it only in late August 23 for the first 3 months and then do another cut in late October 2023 for the second half of W23/24. Award seats usually only show up after that. AGP is a prime destination for awards and sells out fast. My colleague who is a FTL and has a holiday home in Malaga complains all the time that he can't find tickets below 300€ on LH and no awards. And this is outside of peak vacation travel. He usually ends up on LX via ZRH/GVA.
#1184
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: MIL, PAR
Programs: FB Gold (E+),TK Elite(*A Gold)
Posts: 683
Award inventory is first loaded 300 days out. That said the W23/24 schedule has not been firmed yet and LH will finalise it only in late August 23 for the first 3 months and then do another cut in late October 2023 for the second half of W23/24. Award seats usually only show up after that. AGP is a prime destination for awards and sells out fast. My colleague who is a FTL and has a holiday home in Malaga complains all the time that he can't find tickets below 300 on LH and no awards. And this is outside of peak vacation travel. He usually ends up on LX via ZRH/GVA.
#1185
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Denmark
Programs: TK Elite
Posts: 11,635
AGP is a prime destination for awards and sells out fast. My colleague who is a FTL and has a holiday home in Malaga complains all the time that he can't find tickets below 300€ on LH and no awards. And this is outside of peak vacation travel. He usually ends up on LX via ZRH/GVA.