Jul 29, 2014, 5:02 am
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This wiki captures the main points of the Q3 offer from Hilton as posted by HHonorsRepresentative. The main focus of the thread posts has shifted to discuss the high number of opt out hotels for this promotion. Nothing stopping you from adding other useful information or discussion points to this wiki or to the thread! @:-)
Hilton Q3 Promotion: Triple Your Trip
Offer Details:
Earn Triple Points Friday through Sunday
Earn Double Points Monday through Thursday
Stays must be completed between August 1, 2014 and October 31, 2014 at participating hotels and resorts
Register using this link (Many of you may have already registered! If you received a confirmation email, then the promotion code has already dropped on your account and re-registration would not be necessary)
A full list of non-participating hotels and resorts can be found here
A FAQ for this promotion can be found here
Notes from HHonorsRepresentative about the high number of opt out hotels:
As many of you have already noted, more hotels and resorts have chosen to opt-out of this particular promotion compared to previous offers. We understand that having options when you book stays with us is very important and we do our best to encourage hotels and resorts to participate in our promotions. While we hope our promotions work for most hotels, sometimes individual hotels do not have a need for a little extra help filling their rooms. Many hotels are individually owned and operated so we let them make that decision based on their demand. Additionally, many hotels and resorts see spikes in occupancy this time of year, which explains why some hotels have opted-out.
Please do update this wiki with any other useful info or to correct any mistakes.
Hilton Q3 Promotion: Triple Your Trip
Offer Details:
Earn Triple Points Friday through Sunday
Earn Double Points Monday through Thursday
Stays must be completed between August 1, 2014 and October 31, 2014 at participating hotels and resorts
Register using this link (Many of you may have already registered! If you received a confirmation email, then the promotion code has already dropped on your account and re-registration would not be necessary)
A full list of non-participating hotels and resorts can be found here
A FAQ for this promotion can be found here
Notes from HHonorsRepresentative about the high number of opt out hotels:
As many of you have already noted, more hotels and resorts have chosen to opt-out of this particular promotion compared to previous offers. We understand that having options when you book stays with us is very important and we do our best to encourage hotels and resorts to participate in our promotions. While we hope our promotions work for most hotels, sometimes individual hotels do not have a need for a little extra help filling their rooms. Many hotels are individually owned and operated so we let them make that decision based on their demand. Additionally, many hotels and resorts see spikes in occupancy this time of year, which explains why some hotels have opted-out.
Please do update this wiki with any other useful info or to correct any mistakes.
New HH Promo 'Triple your Trip' AUG1-OCT31
Jul 14, 2014, 11:01 am
#61
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Phoenix, AZ
Programs: HH Gold, AA Gold
Posts: 10,458
I wouldn't expect Hilton hotels to participate during super-peak periods for that hotel. I would expect them to partcipate during normal and off-peak times, when they could use a few extra reservations.
Jul 14, 2014, 5:45 pm
#62
Join Date: May 2009
Location: EUG
Programs: AS MVP, AA MM, HH Diamond, MR Gold
Posts: 8,220
Hypothetical question (but hopefully not, won't know until 7/21)...
If you had already booked a double points promotion because it was such a tiny upcharge from the lowest rate, and it happens to participate in this double/triple promotion...
Do you get...
Your booked double points...
PLUS the promotion double or triple points...
PLUS your Elite extra points?
If you had already booked a double points promotion because it was such a tiny upcharge from the lowest rate, and it happens to participate in this double/triple promotion...
Do you get...
Your booked double points...
PLUS the promotion double or triple points...
PLUS your Elite extra points?
Jul 14, 2014, 5:47 pm
#63
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: PHL/EWR
Programs: AA, US, WN, HHonors Diamond, Hyatt Plat
Posts: 1,528
Hypothetical question (but hopefully not, won't know until 7/21)...
If you had already booked a double points promotion because it was such a tiny upcharge from the lowest rate, and it happens to participate in this double/triple promotion...
Do you get...
Your booked double points...
PLUS the promotion double or triple points...
PLUS your Elite extra points?
If you had already booked a double points promotion because it was such a tiny upcharge from the lowest rate, and it happens to participate in this double/triple promotion...
Do you get...
Your booked double points...
PLUS the promotion double or triple points...
PLUS your Elite extra points?
Jul 14, 2014, 8:44 pm
#64
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PM, MM, NR; HH Diamond, Bonvoy LT Gold, Hyatt Explorist, IHG Diamond, others
Posts: 12,159
They stack, but they're all based on your base points.
E.g. 1,000 base points.
Double points rate gets you another 1,000 points.
Triple points promotion gets you another 2,000 points.
Points+points gets you another 500 points.
Status gets you more points (based off 1,000).
Etc.
Triple points promotion w/credit card:
10 base points/$
20 bonus points
5 points+points points
5 Diamond points
12 Amex points
Total: 52 points/$. If they hadn't been devalued so much that would be a ridiculously good earning rate. (Paying the "double points" rate makes it 62 points/$, but I haven't seen that rate low enough to be worthwhile for my stays.)
E.g. 1,000 base points.
Double points rate gets you another 1,000 points.
Triple points promotion gets you another 2,000 points.
Points+points gets you another 500 points.
Status gets you more points (based off 1,000).
Etc.
Triple points promotion w/credit card:
10 base points/$
20 bonus points
5 points+points points
5 Diamond points
12 Amex points
Total: 52 points/$. If they hadn't been devalued so much that would be a ridiculously good earning rate. (Paying the "double points" rate makes it 62 points/$, but I haven't seen that rate low enough to be worthwhile for my stays.)
Jul 14, 2014, 9:18 pm
#65
Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: HH Diamond, IHG Spire, Marriott Gold, AA Plat. Pro
Posts: 400
They stack, but they're all based on your base points.
E.g. 1,000 base points.
Double points rate gets you another 1,000 points.
Triple points promotion gets you another 2,000 points.
Points+points gets you another 500 points.
Status gets you more points (based off 1,000).
Etc.
Triple points promotion w/credit card:
10 base points/$
20 bonus points
5 points+points points
5 Diamond points
12 Amex points
Total: 52 points/$. If they hadn't been devalued so much that would be a ridiculously good earning rate. (Paying the "double points" rate makes it 62 points/$, but I haven't seen that rate low enough to be worthwhile for my stays.)
E.g. 1,000 base points.
Double points rate gets you another 1,000 points.
Triple points promotion gets you another 2,000 points.
Points+points gets you another 500 points.
Status gets you more points (based off 1,000).
Etc.
Triple points promotion w/credit card:
10 base points/$
20 bonus points
5 points+points points
5 Diamond points
12 Amex points
Total: 52 points/$. If they hadn't been devalued so much that would be a ridiculously good earning rate. (Paying the "double points" rate makes it 62 points/$, but I haven't seen that rate low enough to be worthwhile for my stays.)
Jul 14, 2014, 9:28 pm
#66
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: MSP
Programs: DL PM, MM, NR; HH Diamond, Bonvoy LT Gold, Hyatt Explorist, IHG Diamond, others
Posts: 12,159
But I've generally found rates much lower than the double points rates (they might be $10 over "best available", with AAA etc. being well below that).
Jul 15, 2014, 9:48 am
#67
Join Date: Nov 2013
Programs: HH Diamond, IHG Spire, Marriott Gold, AA Plat. Pro
Posts: 400
Very true. We use Egencia for our corporate travel and I don't have access to the AAA rates anymore like I did years ago with Concur so it's only a few dollars difference.
Jul 16, 2014, 7:53 am
#68
Join Date: Aug 2011
Programs: Hilton Honors Diamond, IHG Spire, Marriott Titanium, Wyndham Diamond, Caesar's Diamond
Posts: 536
I disagree because Hilton DOES post a visisble list of participating (or non-participating) properties. Every promotion in every industry comes with some sort of disclaimer -- participating locations only. Ever try to find restaurant promotional pricing at an airport restaurant or a restaurant in a sports venue? Yeah, it's non-existent!
I wouldn't expect Hilton hotels to participate during super-peak periods for that hotel. I would expect them to partcipate during normal and off-peak times, when they could use a few extra reservations.
I wouldn't expect Hilton hotels to participate during super-peak periods for that hotel. I would expect them to partcipate during normal and off-peak times, when they could use a few extra reservations.
Jul 16, 2014, 8:24 am
#69
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Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: All over
Programs: Most
Posts: 10,839
Neither does Hyatt. It all comes down how these programs fund these promotions. Hilton and SPG requires properties to chip in extra and thus they can opt out if they so choose.
Jul 16, 2014, 9:06 pm
#70
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Connecticut
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Delta Gold, Marriott Gold
Posts: 342
There should be some accountability by the property to be all in like we the customers are need to be so that we can get stay status.
Jul 17, 2014, 10:44 am
#71
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Salt Lake City, Utah, USA
Posts: 10,003
This has always confused me about Hilton, they put their name on these properties but there is no consistency to the services or how they interact with the HHonors program. Why have loyal customers who can be go to these properties thinking they will be treated as an elite for their loyalty with the person checking you in knowing nothing about the program!
There should be some accountability by the property to be all in like we the customers are need to be so that we can get stay status.
There should be some accountability by the property to be all in like we the customers are need to be so that we can get stay status.
Jul 19, 2014, 9:03 am
#72
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: UA nothing (former multi-year CO Platinum), AA 1M Gold, HH Diamond, National Executive
Posts: 449
I disagree because Hilton DOES post a visisble list of participating (or non-participating) properties. Every promotion in every industry comes with some sort of disclaimer -- participating locations only. Ever try to find restaurant promotional pricing at an airport restaurant or a restaurant in a sports venue? Yeah, it's non-existent!
I wouldn't expect Hilton hotels to participate during super-peak periods for that hotel. I would expect them to partcipate during normal and off-peak times, when they could use a few extra reservations.
I wouldn't expect Hilton hotels to participate during super-peak periods for that hotel. I would expect them to partcipate during normal and off-peak times, when they could use a few extra reservations.
Jul 19, 2014, 12:36 pm
#73
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Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: RSW
Programs: Delta - Silver; UA - Silver; HHonors - Diamond; IHG - Spire Ambassador; Marriott Bonvoy - Titanium
Posts: 14,185
I'm not sure what happens on the Hilton to local property side, but on the local side they base it off reservations. The hotel I mentioned earlier was booked almost 100% months in advance for the 6 months previously I had stayed there. It was because of a corp head quarters there and only 3 total Hilton properties in the area. 2 of the Hiltons were booked solid, the other was a lesser quality option. I spoke to the GM and was told basically they were booked solid for the quarter and they didn't see why they needed to participate in the promotion. They had previously been in the last 2Qs promotions. I told him I would be switching my reservations and others would be also. I guess enough people left as they were back participating the next quarter.
Hilton needs to fine their properties, if they aren't already, that opt out. Its never good to advertise things and then have people show up expecting something but be denied because of the crazy fine print.
Hilton needs to fine their properties, if they aren't already, that opt out. Its never good to advertise things and then have people show up expecting something but be denied because of the crazy fine print.
Jul 19, 2014, 11:59 pm
#74
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 156
An idea. For every HHonors hotel, the hotel home page currently shows very prominently the HHonors category. I think Hilton should show in the same box, very prominently, "Participating in all current promotions" with a bold Yes or No answer. If a hotel chooses not to participate, fine. But at least they can't hide behind fine print. I bet this would impact at least some of the hotel decisions.