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Hilton Properties Devalued 5k → 10k & 10k → 20k for standard award:
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Loyalty Lobby Article with the List of Hotels that Changed: https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/hilton-honors-award-chart-changes-june-2019/
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Loyalty Lobby Article with the List of Hotels that Changed: https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/hilton-honors-award-chart-changes-june-2019/
Consolidated "Points Devaluation" thread
#811
Join Date: Sep 2010
Programs: HHonors Diamond; My Mom's Favorite Kid
Posts: 3,929
I think that the best answer is to go with the program that has the best options where you stay. I tend to stay in a few cities. In those places the Marriott and SPG properties aren't as great as the Hilton properties. For me it's Hilton. For someone else, it may be SPG or Marriott or Best Western Rewards.
#812
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Chapel Hill, NC - UA Nobody (sigh)/0.925MM, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 3,510
Everyone has different tastes in travel destinations.
#813

Join Date: Aug 2005
Programs: AA Plt 3MM; UA 1K 2 MM; MR Lifetime Plat; HH Lifetime Diamond; HH Diamond; IGH Spire Ambas; SPG Gold
Posts: 2,149
Puerto Rico
Turks and Caicos
Cabo San Lucas
Plus an operational Autograph resort in the BVI
Since I've visited all HH properties on tropical islands (except Koh Samui), I'm focusing my primary business towards MR.
However, most Radisson Blu properties in Europe get 3.5 or 4 star ratings at Tripadvisor.com--there are few 4.5s.
#814
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: LAX
Posts: 11,593
The only destination type Hilton wants you to visit now is suburban Hampton inn...
#815


Join Date: Jan 2012
Programs: HH Diamond
Posts: 726
I've stayed at many Club Carlson properties in the UK and Germany, and with one exception (which was a Park Inn, Watford) I was quite pleased. In the UK Radisson certainly has the more modern properties, particularly outside London. And don't forget Radissons 2 for 1 / 4 for 2 weekend rates, plus the extra night you get with its credit card for award bookings.
#816
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 131
Everyone has different award 'needs' certainly but for major city mid-high end availability at a reasonable point redemption I would take Marriott points
over the "new" Hilton points.
#817
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Chapel Hill, NC - UA Nobody (sigh)/0.925MM, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 3,510
Dubrovnik
Krakow
Warsaw
Munich
Venice
Florence
Moscow
Prague
Barcelona
Istanbul
This is only Europe and I've not done any sort of exhaustive search (see the "Sweet Spot" thread). Points & $ awards seem to be at 40% of standard redemption rates at a lot (most?) properties and can be a very good deal.
I'm not happy about the devaluation, particularly at my favorite Conrads in Asia, but as long as I can continue to find decent redemption rates at properties I'm likely to visit, I'm not abandoning Hilton.
#818
FlyerTalk Evangelist


Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: LAX
Posts: 11,593
I agree to some extent but many of them were also less expensive pre-devaluation...there are some acceptable exceptions but only because the rest went up so much - prior to devaluation no one looked of those as deals... Of course ymmv
#819
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 53,012
I honestly don't know how/why hotels choose to join and leave the major brands, but this just seems like too huge of a gap.I now have Lifetime MR Gold and, theoretically, perpetual HH Gold/Diamond status through the credit cards. Ideally I'd send just enough stays Starwood's way to make low-Plat but I don't know if I'll have quite enough this year.
At the end of the day, I'll just pursue diversity, thus maximizing options for different types of trips.
#821




Join Date: Sep 2006
Programs: Hilton Diamond, Priority Club Platinum
Posts: 151
What hotelier in his right mind would want to deal with the self-entitled people on this board? If it was me, I would lock the door if I saw the Hilton franchise rep getting near.
#822
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 131
No doubt there is a lot of whining but at the end of the day the hotels and airlines created the monster and continue to feed it with promises of more and better rewards. It disconcerting to buy into their programs and find out that your earned points are being constantly devalued. Kind of like holding a savings account in US dollars.
#823
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: ATL
Programs: Delta DM, 4MM, SC, AmEx Reserve, UA Plat, SPG/Marriott Platinum, Hertz Gold
Posts: 2,383
Devaluation hitting home? Yep (well, maybe). I make a couple trips to Australia annually and generally stay at the Sydney Hilton. When I have used points in the past, I've generally gotten it for no more than 60,000/night. The dates in August I will be there, 306,391/night. I'm hoping this has more to do with something going on in downtown Sydney and less about points devaluation! Figured booking this far in advance, I'd have no issues getting it at a reasonable points level.
#824
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Join Date: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,720
Devaluation hitting home? Yep (well, maybe). I make a couple trips to Australia annually and generally stay at the Sydney Hilton. When I have used points in the past, I've generally gotten it for no more than 60,000/night. The dates in August I will be there, 306,391/night. I'm hoping this has more to do with something going on in downtown Sydney and less about points devaluation! Figured booking this far in advance, I'd have no issues getting it at a reasonable points level.
#825
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: ATL
Programs: Delta DM, 4MM, SC, AmEx Reserve, UA Plat, SPG/Marriott Platinum, Hertz Gold
Posts: 2,383
Agreed! But, I have been in Sydney at New Year's in the past when the hotel was booked solid and only had it charge out at ~100-125K points/night. The number quoted now is absurd! Not sure if the Sydney Hilton level was reclassified with the recent devaluation, but it's one of the highest points/night I have ever seen at any property.



