Apr 2, 2023, 5:01 pm
Last edit by: cblaisd
Hilton Properties Devalued 5k → 10k & 10k → 20k for standard award:
[NAME] [OLD RATE] [NEW RATE]
Loyalty Lobby Article with the List of Hotels that Changed: https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/hilton-honors-award-chart-changes-june-2019/
[NAME] [OLD RATE] [NEW RATE]
Loyalty Lobby Article with the List of Hotels that Changed: https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/hilton-honors-award-chart-changes-june-2019/
Consolidated "Points Devaluation" thread
Mar 28, 2013 | 8:25 am
#737
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Nashville, TN
Programs: WN Nothing and spending the half million points from too many flights, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 8,043
I just checked my single reservation and the "price" in points is the same as yesterday. Went from Cat 7 to 8. It is a domestic beach resort where we have stayed before and liked (not an upscale place like mentioned up thread), so I am not real surprised. I got the res in anyway.
I held out 200K. I use them for visiting my specialist 2X per year, 300 miles away, for a 3 day series of treatment. If I can make enough to cover the lodging for these, I am good.
I held out 200K. I use them for visiting my specialist 2X per year, 300 miles away, for a 3 day series of treatment. If I can make enough to cover the lodging for these, I am good.
Mar 28, 2013 | 9:15 am
#740
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Houston, TX
Programs: HHonors Gold, PC Plat, WN A+
Posts: 30
Looks like GLON is gone and replaced by "fifth night free", as expected. The point costs you see for 5+ night stays have factored in the fifth night free as well. So a five night stay at a 70k hotel will show a cost of 56k per night, a six night stay will show 58,100 per night, etc.
Hopefully some form of AXON still remains
Hopefully some form of AXON still remains
Mar 28, 2013 | 9:35 am
#741
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Berlin, Germany
Programs: HHonors (Diamond), SPG, Marriott Rewards, ALoyalty, Club Carlson, M&M
Posts: 117
That is weird indeed! I booked in the last second, the evening of the 27th.
My bookings look like this now, wonder what my math teacher would say to that:
Conrad Tokyo
DIA STANDARD RM RWD
Room: KING ROOM CITY
DATE PRICE PER NIGHT TOTAL (JPY)
22 Apr 2014 78,850 points 78,850 points
23 Apr 2014 78,850 points 78,850 points
24 Apr 2014 78,850 points 78,850 points
25 Apr 2014 78,850 points 78,850 points
26 Apr 2014 78,850 points 78,850 points
27 Apr 2014 78,850 points 78,850 points
Room Subtotal: 225,000 points
The Beverly Hilton
Room: 1 KING BED STANDARD
DATE PRICE PER NIGHT TOTAL (USD)
02 Oct 2013 49,800 points 49,800 points
03 Oct 2013 49,800 points 49,800 points
04 Oct 2013 49,800 points 49,800 points
05 Oct 2013 49,800 points 49,800 points
06 Oct 2013 49,800 points 49,800 points
07 Oct 2013 49,800 points 49,800 points
Room Subtotal: 180,000 points
Total for stay: 180,000 points
My bookings look like this now, wonder what my math teacher would say to that:
Conrad Tokyo
DIA STANDARD RM RWD
Room: KING ROOM CITY
DATE PRICE PER NIGHT TOTAL (JPY)
22 Apr 2014 78,850 points 78,850 points
23 Apr 2014 78,850 points 78,850 points
24 Apr 2014 78,850 points 78,850 points
25 Apr 2014 78,850 points 78,850 points
26 Apr 2014 78,850 points 78,850 points
27 Apr 2014 78,850 points 78,850 points
Room Subtotal: 225,000 points
The Beverly Hilton
Room: 1 KING BED STANDARD
DATE PRICE PER NIGHT TOTAL (USD)
02 Oct 2013 49,800 points 49,800 points
03 Oct 2013 49,800 points 49,800 points
04 Oct 2013 49,800 points 49,800 points
05 Oct 2013 49,800 points 49,800 points
06 Oct 2013 49,800 points 49,800 points
07 Oct 2013 49,800 points 49,800 points
Room Subtotal: 180,000 points
Total for stay: 180,000 points
Mar 28, 2013 | 10:51 am
#743
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: ORD (formerly SAN)
Programs: Hilton Diamond; IHG Platinum; Bonvoy Gold; AA Platinum Pro; United Premier Platinum
Posts: 1,934
I also rebooked a couple of my points + cash hotels. As long as the hotel stayed in the same category or lower than before the deval, then the C&P's are lower. It's worth it to check all prior bookings.
Mar 28, 2013 | 11:24 am
#744
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 423
Confirmation emails for AXON's always show 170K, but only 145K is deducted from your account.
Mar 28, 2013 | 11:44 am
#745
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Chapel Hill, NC - UA Nobody (sigh)/0.925MM, HHonors Diamond
Posts: 3,510
There are indeed some good points + $ rates. I changed Conrad Macao and Hilton NRT where both the points and cash were lower.
Mar 28, 2013 | 11:48 am
#746
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: MCI
Programs: AA Gold 1MM, AS MVP, UA Silver, WN A-List, Marriott LT Titanium, HH Diamond
Posts: 53,012
Then the supervisor told my rep that they actually made the change at midnight eastern time, not central like they had been telling everyone. Looks like I'm sticking with my original reservation.
She said it shows both point values because she updated my phone number on it after midnight eastern but that I'm still locked in at the old points. Kinda scarey.
She said it shows both point values because she updated my phone number on it after midnight eastern but that I'm still locked in at the old points. Kinda scarey.
The online alert I saw said 12:01AM CST. Either Hilton intended that and it worked exactly as planned, or perhaps they genuinely intended the old rates to stay up until 12:01AM CDT (1:01AM EDT) but it didn't get programmed that way.
I can easily see phone agents telling people they had until "midnight central time" with no daylight/standard mention, leading most callers to think they had until midnight CDT.
Mar 28, 2013 | 12:36 pm
#748
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Central Europe
Programs: SAS Silver, A3 Gold, TK Gold, Hyatt Globalist, HH Diamond, Marriott Gold, IHG Plat
Posts: 502
Looks like GLON is gone and replaced by "fifth night free", as expected. The point costs you see for 5+ night stays have factored in the fifth night free as well. So a five night stay at a 70k hotel will show a cost of 56k per night, a six night stay will show 58,100 per night, etc.
Mar 28, 2013 | 12:44 pm
#749
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: DFW/DAL
Programs: AA 1MM Gold, Marriott Gold, Hilton Diamond, Hyatt Discoverist
Posts: 1,551
Has anyone been able to confirm the new AXON details? Did it end up changing at all? My dad got in at 11:50pm last night to someone after being on hold for 15-20mins and was able to book 4 nights at HK Conrad. We booked 8 at Maldives Conrad. Would be interesting if that has not changed.
EDIT: I called and woman confirmed AXON is still there but only Cat 5-7 as it was before, except of course that tons of the hotels have increased in category rating.
EDIT: I called and woman confirmed AXON is still there but only Cat 5-7 as it was before, except of course that tons of the hotels have increased in category rating.
Last edited by glocklt4; Mar 28, 2013 at 2:04 pm
Mar 28, 2013 | 6:09 pm
#750
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: SFO/SJC
Posts: 260
I can confirm it is still there as I booked an award post-devaluation, March 28. For me it was a move to reduce total points spent, as my WA became a cat 7 and thus bookable with AXON. 25K points back into my account.
I am starting to think it's not that bad except for 10 or so highest-end opulent properties - Moorea, Bora-Bora, Rangali, Seychelles, Bali, Tokyo, DT Times Square, Grand Wailea. These however always required a ton of money spent on the vacation even when the room was free, plus travel from many locations was a killer (30+ hrs on the planes/airports) plus a ton of miles or $$$ needed. But the regular decents hotels and resorts are still there, and some have become even a better value.
I am starting to think it's not that bad except for 10 or so highest-end opulent properties - Moorea, Bora-Bora, Rangali, Seychelles, Bali, Tokyo, DT Times Square, Grand Wailea. These however always required a ton of money spent on the vacation even when the room was free, plus travel from many locations was a killer (30+ hrs on the planes/airports) plus a ton of miles or $$$ needed. But the regular decents hotels and resorts are still there, and some have become even a better value.