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Hilton Properties Devalued 5k → 10k & 10k → 20k for standard award:
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Loyalty Lobby Article with the List of Hotels that Changed: https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/hilton-honors-award-chart-changes-june-2019/
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Loyalty Lobby Article with the List of Hotels that Changed: https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/hilton-honors-award-chart-changes-june-2019/
Consolidated "Points Devaluation" thread
#586
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: EWR
Programs: CO Platinum HH Diamond VIP Hertz 5 Star Gold Avis First Preferred
Posts: 168
I was a SPG platinum for many years and switched to HH almost exclusively, all of the reward programs have devalued their points, but compared to SPG, HH has so many more moderately priced hotel to choose from, I don't see myself ever going back to SPG. And the quarterly promotions have been great.
#587
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: India
Programs: DL Diamond, Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, ALL Platinum, IHG Platinum
Posts: 30,703
not spg....hyatt & hilton made cat changes but this year spg did not....
only in the US....
i agree....the promos have really picked up....
i agree....the promos have really picked up....
#588




Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Seattle, WA, USA
Programs: AS MVPG, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 986
Promos and 1 particularly great Hilton have kept me as another Diamond, 7 years running.
Hyatt has seen the majority of my business this year, then Hilton, then SPG and the occassional Marriott...
Can't wait for Q4 promos to come out.....
Hyatt has seen the majority of my business this year, then Hilton, then SPG and the occassional Marriott...
Can't wait for Q4 promos to come out.....
#589
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: west of DFW airport
Programs: AA LT Gold 1.9 MM flying my way to LT PLAT
Posts: 11,074
My company dumped Hyatt for Hilton. I'm satisfied and really like the free breakfasts in the properties that include that.
I think we are getting a good value for the money.
I think we are getting a good value for the money.
#590
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: HH Gold VIP, BonVoy Gold, BAEC Gold, AmEx Platinum, Visa Infinite
Posts: 689
I think the highlights of 2010 so far have been:
1- The great promos
2- The Free Internet for Gold and Diamond members.
Honestly, those two are enough to keep me where I am
.
I am not a heavy traveler like most of you are. I can maintain a gold but thats about it. This year I might have a chance for Diamond.
1- The great promos
2- The Free Internet for Gold and Diamond members.
Honestly, those two are enough to keep me where I am
.I am not a heavy traveler like most of you are. I can maintain a gold but thats about it. This year I might have a chance for Diamond.
#591




Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: SFO
Programs: UA1k3.1mm;AAexEXP;HyGlob;AccPlt;HHGld;OnyxPlt;MarLTTitIHGDiAm;RRVIP;BW D;HcomG
Posts: 2,962
#592
Community Director Emerita




Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: Anywhere warm
Posts: 35,602
#593


Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Chicago, IL
Programs: UA 1K 3MM , Marriott Amb, Hyatt D, HH D, Hertz PC
Posts: 856
I re-qualified for Diamond early in the year then received a status match to SPG Platinum. Hilton will not lose all my business since Starwood is weak in many smaller markets I travel to however all my high revenue stays will go SPG from now on.
#594
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Rural TN (but WAS native)
Programs: National Executive Elite, none of the others matter
Posts: 23,831
From the devaluation announcement to present I've had five redemptions on HHonors compared to a single revenue stay. The one revenue stay was a requirement of the location where I was speaking in April. Given my travel patterns even the Hilton promo wasn't able to keep me from Hyatt (and "free" nights at Park Hyatts). In addition to earned Hyatt Diamond and ChoicePrivileges Gold I've even upped my status in PriorityClub to Platinum while explicitly avoiding Hilton this year.
I'm not a high-value customer to any hotel chain (it's a different story with an airline) but I can indeed be a very frequent customer.
I'm not a high-value customer to any hotel chain (it's a different story with an airline) but I can indeed be a very frequent customer.
#596
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: India
Programs: DL Diamond, Bonvoy Lifetime Titanium, ALL Platinum, IHG Platinum
Posts: 30,703
#597
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toledo, OH
Programs: Delta DM/2MM, Hilton, Wyndham and IHG DM, Marriott gold, Hyatt Globalist, Southwest A List
Posts: 15,565
I think the highlights of 2010 so far have been:
1- The great promos
2- The Free Internet for Gold and Diamond members.
Honestly, those two are enough to keep me where I am
.
I am not a heavy traveler like most of you are. I can maintain a gold but thats about it. This year I might have a chance for Diamond.
1- The great promos
2- The Free Internet for Gold and Diamond members.
Honestly, those two are enough to keep me where I am
.I am not a heavy traveler like most of you are. I can maintain a gold but thats about it. This year I might have a chance for Diamond.
The biggest plus I find is the double dipping. I don't know of any US hotel chain that will give you both miles and points. Most of my stays are one or two nights and with 1/2 credit on southwest per stay (and a full credit with the Q3 promo), those have come in really nice. While I won't fly WN on a paid trip (Flying out of DTW it is foolish with all the direct non-stops on DL), I have gotten a couple flights out of just HHhonors stays and have companion pass status on just hotel stays and credit card points.
And not to mention in cities like Chicago and NYC the property choices are great (if that was only the case in the area of LA I like to stay at I would be really happy).
With my travel patterns, even with the DEVAL hilton is still the best choice for me by far.
#598




Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: DFW
Programs: Delta MM, Marriott Life Titanium, Hilton Diamond, United Silver, IHG Plat
Posts: 2,908
I just don't know at this point - the strong promos kept me going this year to the point where I renewed Diamond but going forward the other chains are offering a stronger value proposition. Q4 is definitely looking weaker for promos - not that Hilton's investor trust masters would have let the gravy train continue. Next year may finally see me drop Hilton.
#599
Moderator: Chase Ultimate Rewards



Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: SFO
Programs: UA 2P, MR LT Plat, IHG Plat, BW Dia, HH Au, Avis PC
Posts: 5,669
Rationally, it's not clear to me why I would choose a Hilton property given all of that. So I don't plan to. If my colleagues or clients strongly object, I won't fight it (hard), but I'd rather earn points faster - that I can actually use - and enjoy a better stay experience.
I guess that's my commitment to take business elsewhere. In fact, next week HIX will gain 4 room nights that probably would have been Hampton nights.
I guess that's my commitment to take business elsewhere. In fact, next week HIX will gain 4 room nights that probably would have been Hampton nights.
Did a stint through Marriott, on the 5000 Delta miles per stay promo (netting over 50k miles) and earned Platinum on a challenge. Did two nights at a Best Western (stay 2, get 1 free). The rest went to IHG.
Sticking with my commitment to avoid Hilton. I'll be letting Gold status expire. Will actually have 4 nights this month - the combination of double miles and Delta MQMs in September is good enough to get me to visit an HGI. But I suspect that will be it for the year.
Still not "mad" at Hilton but there's just much less value for me. Marriott's promotion was worth a minimum of $50/stay. Best Western was about $30. IHG is typically around that. And all of them treat me fine.
(And I'm even getting good upgrades. The Best Western put me in a double sized jacuzzi room. A Fairfield had one larger room due to the layout of the building and they went as far as to pre-block me a week in advance to make sure I got it. Booked directly into a very nice, big two room penthouse suite at a Holiday Inn on points... etc.)
#600
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Toledo, OH
Programs: Delta DM/2MM, Hilton, Wyndham and IHG DM, Marriott gold, Hyatt Globalist, Southwest A List
Posts: 15,565
Updating my post from March. 0 Hilton stays so far this year.
Did a stint through Marriott, on the 5000 Delta miles per stay promo (netting over 50k miles) and earned Platinum on a challenge. Did two nights at a Best Western (stay 2, get 1 free). The rest went to IHG.
Sticking with my commitment to avoid Hilton. I'll be letting Gold status expire. Will actually have 4 nights this month - the combination of double miles and Delta MQMs in September is good enough to get me to visit an HGI. But I suspect that will be it for the year.
Still not "mad" at Hilton but there's just much less value for me. Marriott's promotion was worth a minimum of $50/stay. Best Western was about $30. IHG is typically around that. And all of them treat me fine.
(And I'm even getting good upgrades. The Best Western put me in a double sized jacuzzi room. A Fairfield had one larger room due to the layout of the building and they went as far as to pre-block me a week in advance to make sure I got it. Booked directly into a very nice, big two room penthouse suite at a Holiday Inn on points... etc.)
Did a stint through Marriott, on the 5000 Delta miles per stay promo (netting over 50k miles) and earned Platinum on a challenge. Did two nights at a Best Western (stay 2, get 1 free). The rest went to IHG.
Sticking with my commitment to avoid Hilton. I'll be letting Gold status expire. Will actually have 4 nights this month - the combination of double miles and Delta MQMs in September is good enough to get me to visit an HGI. But I suspect that will be it for the year.
Still not "mad" at Hilton but there's just much less value for me. Marriott's promotion was worth a minimum of $50/stay. Best Western was about $30. IHG is typically around that. And all of them treat me fine.
(And I'm even getting good upgrades. The Best Western put me in a double sized jacuzzi room. A Fairfield had one larger room due to the layout of the building and they went as far as to pre-block me a week in advance to make sure I got it. Booked directly into a very nice, big two room penthouse suite at a Holiday Inn on points... etc.)
If I stayed at a BW as a diamond for one night and paid $200 I would get either one-half credit on WN OR 2600 points. If I spend $200 at a hilton with the current promo this quarter I would get 3000 points PLUS one credit on WN or 4000 points and a half credit on WN and if I didn't double dip even more miles and even more poitns if I didn't double dip. Plus the bonus 1,000 points if I chose that for my way. I just see no comparasion between BW and HHonors for their loyalty programs



