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Hilton Properties Devalued 5k → 10k & 10k → 20k for standard award:
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Loyalty Lobby Article with the List of Hotels that Changed: https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/hilton-honors-award-chart-changes-june-2019/
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Loyalty Lobby Article with the List of Hotels that Changed: https://loyaltylobby.com/2019/06/17/hilton-honors-award-chart-changes-june-2019/
Consolidated "Points Devaluation" thread
#541
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#542
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No longer staying at Hilton, except with use up my points!
I spent 35 mins on hold waiting for a supervisor. I was given the Gold challenge and wanted to get Diamond challenge instead. The supervisor named Andre was polite but resolute in not offering me this challenge. I explained that my brother spent 2 night at Hilton last year and was given this challenge. "Sorry". I asked if I could speak with his boss, "there is no one else you can talk to". I explained that I would cancel my current reservations and not stay with them anymore. "Thats your choice" I was told. Not so, its your choice I explained.
Peace out Hilton. 2 years Diamond, 2 years Gold, NO MORE!
Peace out Hilton. 2 years Diamond, 2 years Gold, NO MORE!
#543
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Actually I've scored a number of nice suite upgrades at Hamptons and HGIs. (suite with separate bedrooms - sometimes with whirlpool spas, etc.) In fact I would venture to say that a lot of newer Hamptons and HGIs probably have more suites to allocate that most older mainline Hiltons.
Of course Hampton's aren't techincally supposed to upgrade Diamonds by policy but I do see it frequently in the ones that have the upgrades to give.
Of course Hampton's aren't techincally supposed to upgrade Diamonds by policy but I do see it frequently in the ones that have the upgrades to give.
#544




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I get upgraded at Hampton Inn more than any other HHonor's brand.
Of course that's a biased statement there's a few HIs that I visit on a regular basis because I know they have suites.
I've even been upgraded to a "suite" (or at least a very large room with couch/table on one end and bed on the ohter) at some HIs that didn't have "& Suites" in their name.
I used to say the same thing about HGI
El Segundo (LAX) specifically has a conference wing with some nice upgraded rooms. I used to get in that wing consistently but it hasn't happen now in about a dozen stays over the past 4 years.
All the other properties will say I've been upgraded, but their definition of an "upgrade" is more along the lines of "a room with new curtains" rather than upgraded size and/or amenities.
To be fair....
Internationally, the upgrades at Hilton/Conrad have been absolutely fantastic !!
I don't think the USA properties care anymore (Arizona Hiltons seem to be a step above others). I do get Executive Level but those lounges have also dropped to the point that I don't consider them much of an upgrade.
I've also forgotten that one of the Diamond benefits I like the most have not been reduced over the years ... breakfast.
The ironic thing is that if I'm at a Hilton without an Executive Lounge, then I get a certificate for breakfast in the hotels eatery. It's hit or miss as to whether that will be off the menu versus full buffet versus contiental. But even if it's continental buffet, the choice is usually better than if I had been "upgraded" to Executive Level.
Oh ... wireless internet ??
Stay at Hampton or HGI. Pay extra $$$ for a room at at higher end property and wireless is an extra charge.
Steve
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Oh ... wireless internet ??
Stay at Hampton or HGI. Pay extra $$$ for a room at at higher end property and wireless is an extra charge.
Stay at Hampton or HGI. Pay extra $$$ for a room at at higher end property and wireless is an extra charge.
#546
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 3
Well.... That really stinks!!
I was going to use my HHonors reward points to book a vacation at the Hampton Inn Pensacola Beach. Great hotel! Then... I realized that it went from a Category 3 to a Category 6 and required a heck of a lot more points!
I can understand, with the program changes, that it would require a few more points; but... COME ON!! 3 to a 6????
I have also noticed that, unless the Hampton Inn is nowheresville, there is not a Hampton Inn that is a Category 3.
I will be using Marriott alot more now. BYE BYE HHONORS!!
I can understand, with the program changes, that it would require a few more points; but... COME ON!! 3 to a 6????
I have also noticed that, unless the Hampton Inn is nowheresville, there is not a Hampton Inn that is a Category 3.
I will be using Marriott alot more now. BYE BYE HHONORS!!
#547

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If you really want to stay at this place, stay with dollars. How much is the AAA, AARP rate or other discount plans you might be eligible for? How much would it be to stay using priceline or other alternate booking options?
Welcome to flyertalk and hopefully you don't have a huge pile of pre-devaluation HH points.
And yes, consider giving Marriott or some other chain your business. HH will keep up this stuff if they don't see any change to their bottom line.
Welcome to flyertalk and hopefully you don't have a huge pile of pre-devaluation HH points.
And yes, consider giving Marriott or some other chain your business. HH will keep up this stuff if they don't see any change to their bottom line.
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Welcome to FT corgiowner and you are correct. You might consider more apt titles in the future just in case others are searching for info on hotels and inflationary rip-offs such as this.
MisterNice
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#551
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A lot of interesting comments posted in this series of threads. I do not like the devaluation either. After being a HH Diamond for years, I moved over to SPG (and maintained my PC status) this year. I like Hilton properties, but I am leaving by default...my company renegotiated preferred hotel agreements in the cities I visit & Hilton lost out.
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Just make my first Holiday Inn Express reservation everit wont make PC whole for the 20k loser points that they threw at mebut its a start and now that PC is on my radar, who knows.
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Watch out though, you may never come back. PC Plat has done me wonders and I've shifted a significant # of stays to PC and the trend is increasing.
#554

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Call PC and get matched to Plat. They did it for me in 30 seconds over the phone after I emailed them my HH status information.
Watch out though, you may never come back. PC Plat has done me wonders and I've shifted a significant # of stays to PC and the trend is increasing.
Watch out though, you may never come back. PC Plat has done me wonders and I've shifted a significant # of stays to PC and the trend is increasing.
THANKS I just called them and they did it and put me in the Make It Big double points double miles promo, too.
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