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Old May 30, 2021, 7:16 pm
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How to get a SARS-COV-2 (COVID-19) RT-PCR test certificate for travel from Finland?

This wiki post details the means to obtain a PCR-test test certificate in Finland for travel. It is possible to completely avoid the cartel prices of over 200€ (Terveystalo, 9Lives, etc.) by getting a certified from the public sector.

Where to get the test?

Print-at-home test result certificates are available for public sector tests taken in the following regions:
  • Uusimaa,
  • Kymi valley,
  • Northern Ostrobothnia,
  • South Karelia.
The PDF certificate for the last test taken can be downloaded from KoronaTietoni ( https://www.koronatietoni.fi/ ) within an hour after the test results are notified by SMS. You will need Finnish bank or mobile authentication codes to proceed.

It is expected that, in the second phase of deployment of the EU green pass in Finland, test results will be available from Kanta.fi regardless of locality. At the moment, Kanta.fi can only provide Finnish national vaccination certificates. In the first phase of deployment, (only) the vaccination certificates will be converted to EU format.

How to apply for the test?

There are several ways to apply for and take a suitable test:
  • If you have Covid-19 symptoms (based on self-diagnostic), you can get a test via Omaolo: https://www.omaolo.fi/
  • If you are returning to (or entering) Finland less than 14 days before the intended test date, you can apply from FinEntry: https://www.finentry.fi/
  • Visit the appointment-free test bus in poorer Helsinki districts. The schedule is available here:
    https://www.hel.fi/helsinki/coronavirus-en/social-and-health/coronavirus-test/
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Old Nov 25, 2020, 2:21 am
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They just rolled out plans how they distribute the vaccine, you will get an invitation letter from the government, and then you are good to go. So no one can plan on this. Also, not everybody in Germany can be easily reached by post, especially if you are living in the bigger cities the service is a mess if the wrong company is in charge. 2021 will be getting very very interesting. For future travel, I m looking for a new car at the moment, at least in Europe this will be working cross country.
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Do you have a source, please ?
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Originally Posted by fransknorge
Do you have a source, please ?
Only in german, but I guess thats fine with you



In jedem der sechs Impfzentren soll es laut Broemme fünf Impfkabinen geben. „Es kommen nur Menschen rein, die eine Einladung haben.“ Diese komme per Post. Nach Senatsangaben sollen in Berlin zunächst etwa 400.000 Menschen geimpft werden. Dazu könnten etwa ältere Berliner oder Beschäftigte von Krankenhäusern gehören.

https://www.berliner-zeitung.de/news...tung-li.121317
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Okay, Berlin is a little "special".

Is there actually a legal ban in Germany on companies ordering vaccine directly from the manufacturer? Can e. g. Siemens directly order vaccine for its employees bypassing the German government?
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Old Nov 27, 2020, 12:12 am
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Okay, Berlin is a little "special".

Is there actually a legal ban in Germany on companies ordering vaccine directly from the manufacturer? Can e. g. Siemens directly order vaccine for its employees bypassing the German government?
No the vaccine is only available through the government. And Germany will have 60 centers where they will perform the treatment - not anywhere else for the begining - but they will also have mobile teams going to the hospitals and to nursing homes for the elderly.

And I agree Berlin is something special, but it won t be too special in this case.
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60 Impf centers for 85 million people - Am I the only one that can do the maths? It's about the same rate as if the Helsinki-Vantaa-Espoo trio had ONE among them.
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Old Nov 27, 2020, 5:27 am
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Originally Posted by WilcoRoger
60 Impf centers for 85 million people - Am I the only one that can do the maths?
I understand it's only for the beginning phase with low vaccine availability (and no infrastructure to supply each family doctor with a properly cooled vaccine).
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Old Nov 27, 2020, 9:34 am
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Originally Posted by WilcoRoger
60 Impf centers for 85 million people - Am I the only one that can do the maths? It's about the same rate as if the Helsinki-Vantaa-Espoo trio had ONE among them.
Thats how they start, they later will enable normal doctors to perform the treatment, but itis tricky with the cooling chain and the needed infrastructure.

What I find a little optimistic, they want to handle one patient every two minutes, I can t see this speed given the fact that people need and want to talk.
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Originally Posted by Ed Size
No the vaccine is only available through the government. And Germany will have 60 centers where they will perform the treatment - not anywhere else for the begining - but they will also have mobile teams going to the hospitals and to nursing homes for the elderly.

And I agree Berlin is something special, but it won t be too special in this case.
Originally Posted by WilcoRoger
60 Impf centers for 85 million people - Am I the only one that can do the maths? It's about the same rate as if the Helsinki-Vantaa-Espoo trio had ONE among them.
Not sure where the 60 numbers come from but this might not be correct. In Rheinland-Pfalz there will be 36 centers, more or less one for two Landkreis:
https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/rheinl...pfalz-100.html
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I also read that the production of the specific glass containing device for vaccination could be the whole vaccination bottleneck. At the moment only three companies provide this specific type of glass, in which German company Schott provides more than half of the global market of vaccine bottles. It still needs to come up with sufficient capacity to produce billions of glass bottles in a short time, given vaccines available.
So countries and biotech companies are now also fighting over for getting the glass production line reserved.
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Originally Posted by fransknorge
Not sure where the 60 numbers come from but this might not be correct. In Rheinland-Pfalz there will be 36 centers, more or less one for two Landkreis:
https://www.swr.de/swraktuell/rheinl...pfalz-100.html
60 is the official number provided by der Bundesregierung

https://www.pharmazeutische-zeitung....eplant-121679/
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From your article:
a die Impfstoffe bei rund minus 60 °C gekühlt werden müssen, sollen die Bundesländer bis zum morgigen Dienstag verbindliche Standorte für die Lager- und Impfzentren vorlegen. Derzeit ist von 60 Standorten die Rede. Die Lieferung wird entweder von den Firmen selbst oder durch die Bundeswehr gewährleistet.

Laut Spahn können sich die Länder auch entscheiden, zusätzliche Anlaufstellen entweder über mobile Teams oder weitere Impfzentren anzubieten, sodass es am Ende auch mehr als 60 Zentren geben kann. »Das hängt natürlich stark von der jeweiligen geografischen Situation des Bundeslands ab«, erläuterte Spahn heute in Berlin. Bei der Impfung von bestimmten Berufsgruppen sollen auch Betriebsärzte impfen dürfen, heißt es im GMK-Bericht.
There will be 60 organized by the Federal Republic of Germany, however each Land (i.e. State) is free to make more and all are adding a significant amount.
Rheinland Pfalz will have 36 as I link above.
In Bavaria they plan one per LandKreis and Stadt, so around 95 (https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de...d58624166.html)
In NordRhine-Westphalia they plan 53 centers (https://www.tagesschau.de/regional/n...ory-37491.html)
Etc ...
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Originally Posted by fransknorge
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There will be 60 organized by the Federal Republic of Germany, however each Land (i.e. State) is free to make more and all are adding a significant amount.
Rheinland Pfalz will have 36 as I link above.
In Bavaria they plan one per LandKreis and Stadt, so around 95 (https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de...d58624166.html)
In NordRhine-Westphalia they plan 53 centers (https://www.tagesschau.de/regional/n...ory-37491.html)
Etc ...
At the moment this are only optimistic plans, no one knows if there will be a vaccine anytime soon, also no one knows if there are enough gear to provide the cooling chain (at the moment this is unlikely for the next 2 - 3 month at least).

Anyhow, since about 87% of the people who died with/from COVID 19 are 70 years and older (65% are older than 80 years) there is not much need for such centers in the beginning, just go where the elderly live and treat them - that at least will bring down the mortality rate.
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Originally Posted by Ed Size
At the moment this are only optimistic plans, no one knows if there will be a vaccine anytime soon, also no one knows if there are enough gear to provide the cooling chain (at the moment this is unlikely for the next 2 - 3 month at least).

Anyhow, since about 87% of the people who died with/from COVID 19 are 70 years and older (65% are older than 80 years) there is not much need for such centers in the beginning, just go where the elderly live and treat them - that at least will bring down the mortality rate.
There are plenty of elderly who don't live in pensioner houses. You can't simply "go where the elderly live", for they live all over the place.
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