May 30, 2021, 7:16 pm
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How to get a SARS-COV-2 (COVID-19) RT-PCR test certificate for travel from Finland?
This wiki post details the means to obtain a PCR-test test certificate in Finland for travel. It is possible to completely avoid the cartel prices of over 200€ (Terveystalo, 9Lives, etc.) by getting a certified from the public sector.
Where to get the test?
Print-at-home test result certificates are available for public sector tests taken in the following regions:
It is expected that, in the second phase of deployment of the EU green pass in Finland, test results will be available from Kanta.fi regardless of locality. At the moment, Kanta.fi can only provide Finnish national vaccination certificates. In the first phase of deployment, (only) the vaccination certificates will be converted to EU format.
How to apply for the test?
There are several ways to apply for and take a suitable test:
This wiki post details the means to obtain a PCR-test test certificate in Finland for travel. It is possible to completely avoid the cartel prices of over 200€ (Terveystalo, 9Lives, etc.) by getting a certified from the public sector.
Where to get the test?
Print-at-home test result certificates are available for public sector tests taken in the following regions:
- Uusimaa,
- Kymi valley,
- Northern Ostrobothnia,
- South Karelia.
It is expected that, in the second phase of deployment of the EU green pass in Finland, test results will be available from Kanta.fi regardless of locality. At the moment, Kanta.fi can only provide Finnish national vaccination certificates. In the first phase of deployment, (only) the vaccination certificates will be converted to EU format.
How to apply for the test?
There are several ways to apply for and take a suitable test:
- If you have Covid-19 symptoms (based on self-diagnostic), you can get a test via Omaolo: https://www.omaolo.fi/
- If you are returning to (or entering) Finland less than 14 days before the intended test date, you can apply from FinEntry: https://www.finentry.fi/
- Visit the appointment-free test bus in poorer Helsinki districts. The schedule is available here:
https://www.hel.fi/helsinki/coronavirus-en/social-and-health/coronavirus-test/
Good news, is this the beginning of the end for Covid19?
Nov 16, 2020, 4:33 am
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According to the above, Finnair expects that latest by Q2/2021 travel will have started to recover.
According to the above, Finnair expects that latest by Q2/2021 travel will have started to recover.
Nov 16, 2020, 6:23 am
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If the latter, how many of those who got the placebo were infected?
Nov 16, 2020, 7:18 am
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How are these tests conducted? 30.000 people. Do they deliberately try to infect them with the virus to see if the vaccine works, or are they just leading a normal life and on day 90, or whatever, they test everyone to see how many are infected?
If the latter, how many of those who got the placebo were infected?
If the latter, how many of those who got the placebo were infected?
This is of course extremely simplified version.
Nov 16, 2020, 7:30 am
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According to the above, Finnair expects that latest by Q2/2021 travel will have started to recover.
According to the above, Finnair expects that latest by Q2/2021 travel will have started to recover.
Nov 16, 2020, 10:50 am
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Typically group of people (eg 30k) are vaccinated and a control group (eg 10k) are vaccinated with placebo. Then people live normal lives (as normal as they can during corona time). Then sickness rates are compared after certain amount of time (eg 3mo). If control group got 1k sick people, and actual group has 300 sick people, then working rate is 90%.
This is of course extremely simplified version.
This is of course extremely simplified version.
Nov 16, 2020, 11:44 am
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In this case all these "normal" procedures have been discarded and "good enough" is all that matters.
Nov 16, 2020, 1:49 pm
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Still better than the Russian one, where they had tested on a dozen people, falsified the reports and started distributing the vaccine anyway... this is not Mic....ft Office where you release a half-baked product and the users can be lab rats beta testers, for crying out loud.
Nov 17, 2020, 12:15 am
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Finavia estimating small increase in HEL in the end of 2021
Story in Finnish: https://www.keskipohjanmaa.fi/uutinen/605219?src=rss
Olemme varautuneet siihen, että talvikausi on todella hiljainen. Ensi vuoden loppupuolelle odotamme jo pientä vilkastumista. Mutta emme pääse lähellekään vuoden 2019 volyymiä. Siihen menee vuosia.
We are prepared for the fact that the winter season is really quiet. Towards the end of next year, we expect a slight pick-up. But we will not get anywhere near the 2019 volume. It will take years.
We are prepared for the fact that the winter season is really quiet. Towards the end of next year, we expect a slight pick-up. But we will not get anywhere near the 2019 volume. It will take years.
Nov 17, 2020, 5:39 am
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Interesting thread. I'm no real pessimist, as I still would like to imagine my two LH trips planned for April and May 2021 will not be cancelled.
But is it really 'the beginning of the end'? Many regions are presently facing a giant second beginning. The combination of irresponsive behaviour (read advice/rule non-compliance), the findings of a mutated Corona-virus strain among minks (and their caretakers) in Denmark together with the gigantic problem of having enough doses administered to the population. But do the math, if numbers in all EU countries are similar to those in Germany, with 83 million inhabitants, the 19% of assigned doses (200 M + eventually 100 M extra) will be 57 M. With two inoculations per person, and counting on the most favorable scenario, a maximum of a third of Germany's population will be vaccinated , presumably the same share in all other EU countries.
Sorry to say, but we seem to have to wait for the end of the beginning.
But is it really 'the beginning of the end'? Many regions are presently facing a giant second beginning. The combination of irresponsive behaviour (read advice/rule non-compliance), the findings of a mutated Corona-virus strain among minks (and their caretakers) in Denmark together with the gigantic problem of having enough doses administered to the population. But do the math, if numbers in all EU countries are similar to those in Germany, with 83 million inhabitants, the 19% of assigned doses (200 M + eventually 100 M extra) will be 57 M. With two inoculations per person, and counting on the most favorable scenario, a maximum of a third of Germany's population will be vaccinated , presumably the same share in all other EU countries.
Sorry to say, but we seem to have to wait for the end of the beginning.
Nov 17, 2020, 8:13 am
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And then you have the factor that some countries will have difficulty getting vaccines, or getting the right folks vaccinated, as well as irrational thinking from public opinion and politics, and what-not.
So yes, there are still many reasons to be pessimistic about 2021.
Nov 18, 2020, 5:12 am
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I presume the fear as such will last forever as no vaccine gives 100% certainty and there will be a need to have at least 2-3 vaccines, possibly different, every year.
But most likely outcome is a bad vaccine, not providing huge protection (you will still be sick for days after getting it in the beginning, too) plus several side effects so that noone will dare to take it as its limits become more obvious over time.
But most likely outcome is a bad vaccine, not providing huge protection (you will still be sick for days after getting it in the beginning, too) plus several side effects so that noone will dare to take it as its limits become more obvious over time.
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Nov 19, 2020, 9:14 am
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That being said, 90% is already very good effectiveness.