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Old Aug 9, 2016, 11:00 pm
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Delta's Operational move from T5 to T2/3 at LAX:


Delta has moved to: T2 and T3 with eventual connector to TBIT (note: there is currently only airside bus service to stay securely between T2 & T3, the walking connector has not been built yet.)

Where to check bags: As of January 13, 2020, non-Sky Priority customers must check their bag(s) at the terminal their flight departs from, unless their flight departs from TBIT, in which case, they must check their bag at Terminal 2. Sky priority customers can check their bag at either terminal. See this link for more information.

Date(s) of move: May 12, 2017 - May 17, 2017

Here is a helpful chart from Delta which covers all Domestic / Int'l. transfer combos (AND TOTAL TRANSFER TIMES) between T2, T3 & TBIT.

New Bus Routes will help with connections:
- Circular Airfield Bus between TBIT, T2 and T3
- Airfield Bus between T2 and T3

Bus Map

Will there be a SkyClub: Yes, there is one in each terminal. Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse will remain.
- The SkyClub in T2 opened on May 20th (Former AC Maple Leaf Lounge)
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- The SkyClub in T3 opened on May 24th (Former VX Loft)

https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...d-updates.html

Where Will The Delta One Check In Lounge Be Located:

Delta will temporarily offer dedicated check-in space in Terminal 2 (first door closest to T1) while a long-term Delta One experience is finalized.
In T2, there is a small Delta One seating area with refreshments. An agent will escort you from the check in/lounge area through a back pathway up stairs to TSA precheck. Its a shorter walk to check-in at SkyPriority and easier if you have a carry on and don't want to drag it up a flight of stairs. 11/3/17)

Airlines joining DL in T2/3 for landside and departures:
- AeroMexico (T2)
- Virgin Atlantic (T2)
- WestJet (T3)

Landside T2 only, departures from TBIT:
- Virgin Australia
- Volaris

Landside T3 only, departures from TBIT:
- Avianca/Taca
- Copa (effective April 7)
- InterJet

Will there be secure links between T2-T3 and TBIT: Yes, the final plan is to let pax walk between all airside.

External Links:
Press Release: http://news.delta.com/delta-relocate...rough-19b-plan

Rough link showing T2/3 connector:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmrq1UEAEUiF3.jpg

Proposed schedule from LAWA presentation:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmMDLVUAA1vNM.jpg

Delta fact sheet:
http://www.lawa.org/uploadedFiles/LA...ease-Delta.pdf

Delta's LAX destination page featuring 'Delta Sky Way at LAX':
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-terminal.html
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Old Aug 7, 2017, 9:19 pm
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Originally Posted by LDVFlyer
27 ADG-III (e.g., 737) gates

(Anything other than that will result in a number of gate dependencies. Remember Delta will have to share its gates with VS and SU.)
SU decided to stay in TBIT but DL still shares with AM and WS as well in T2.
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Old Aug 7, 2017, 9:34 pm
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Originally Posted by ashill
Fair enough, though if it weren't for the terminal shuffle, AA would still be split between T4, T6, and TBIT and would thus also still have their customers walking through Delta's terminal (though they don't have to go upstairs into T5, they did have to walk along that long DL-branded tunnel).

But I still maintain that Delta is spending however many billions of dollars they are on this primarily for the extra gates, not primarily to make their customers' experience better. (I don't begrudge them that choice; I think it's the right one. And I think it's very clear that this terminal swap makes things better, in the long run, for LAWA, AA, ASVX, and DL and their customers, but DL customers get significant short- and mid-term pain.)
I agree there's plenty of short/medium term pain for DL passengers. I also think DL made the right choice. The extra gates are worth a fortune. While you are correct in noting that there are many winners in this move, I think it's clear that DL is the biggest winner. 7 years from now, DL will be much better off while other airlines will have modest gains. One little note, most of the $1.9B that DL is spending isn't actually their money, they will be reimbursed by LAWA in the form of rent rebates. It's always a good day when you get to spend someone else's money for your benefit.
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Old Aug 7, 2017, 9:40 pm
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I hope the marble stays in T5 so I can go visit it now and then...

Hopefully after a few billion dollars Delta will be able to make this not look like a Soviet Hospital... the Saarinen Terminal they tore down at JFK was in better shape than this terminal presently...
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Old Aug 7, 2017, 10:14 pm
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Originally Posted by cfabar1
I hope the marble stays in T5 so I can go visit it now and then...

Hopefully after a few billion dollars Delta will be able to make this not look like a Soviet Hospital... the Saarinen Terminal they tore down at JFK was in better shape than this terminal presently...
I was talking to a FA recently if she had been to the new LAX since the move. Her response was "What The hell was that!" "That looked more like a Greyhound bus Terminal than a airport terminal."
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Old Aug 7, 2017, 10:22 pm
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I've got my first DL flights ever through LAX (well, if we're not counting WA circa 1981), and I've got a few Qs.

(1) What is the typical bus wait and transit time between 2 and 3? (I've been tracking my flights and some days I'd stay in 3, other days it will be a 2 to 3 connection.)

(2) How is the T3 Sky Priority / TSA Pre experience in the evening? (Another trip will be an LAX departure w/luggage.)

I "can't wait" until I get to experience the T3 lounge - it will be the 4th or 5th airline lounge in the same exact location that I'll experience.
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Old Aug 7, 2017, 10:24 pm
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Originally Posted by kjnangre
One little note, most of the $1.9B that DL is spending isn't actually their money, they will be reimbursed by LAWA in the form of rent rebates. It's always a good day when you get to spend someone else's money for your benefit.
This is not accurate.

If LAWA did business this way, it would go bankrupt.

LAWA will recover the capital costs through the terminal building rate.
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Old Aug 7, 2017, 10:30 pm
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Originally Posted by Eastbay1K
I've got my first DL flights ever through LAX (well, if we're not counting WA circa 1981), and I've got a few Qs.

(1) What is the typical bus wait and transit time between 2 and 3? (I've been tracking my flights and some days I'd stay in 3, other days it will be a 2 to 3 connection.)
I only had to wait a few mins for mine and I saw several buses running. The ride only takes about 2 mins.

Originally Posted by Eastbay1K
(2) How is the T3 Sky Priority / TSA Pre experience in the evening? (Another trip will be an LAX departure w/luggage.)
Haven't experienced T3 SP or TSA Pre but I did experience T2 SP and TSA Pre in the morning before and the SP was VERY LONG with about ~15-20 PAX in line and only 2-3 agents working (One kept coming and leaving) and it took me about 20 min to get through line which is the most I have ever waited including when I was a kettle in a regular line. T2 TSA Pre isn't laid out very well (I read T3 isn't either) but was very quick. (less than 5 min)
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Old Aug 7, 2017, 10:49 pm
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Originally Posted by LDVFlyer
This is not accurate.

If LAWA did business this way, it would go bankrupt.

LAWA will recover the capital costs through the terminal building rate.
? I don't think you get what your saying makes no sense. LAWA isn't going to charge DL for improvements DL pays for. They'll charge them the normal building rate. However then LAWA will essentially pay back DL by posting credits towards that rate. .

LAWA is NOT paying for the capital improvements upfront, DL is. DL is basically providing LAWA a loan to be paid back.
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 12:24 am
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just exited T3 to baggage claim ... the mosaic tiles in the tunnel date back to the mid 1970s! (as a history/nostalgia buff, I think this is great)
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 11:39 am
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Originally Posted by jrl767
just exited T3 to baggage claim ... the mosaic tiles in the tunnel date back to the mid 1970s! (as a history/nostalgia buff, I think this is great)
I'm glad through all the years and various remodels, someone had the good sense to keep the mosaic tiles and keep them in good shape.
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 12:59 pm
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After many years of the Flyaway and off-site self-parking, I'm planning on using Lyft or Uber from LAX to Downtown.

My main concern is finding my driver in the hectic sea of traffic known as Arrivals T2. I don't think Uber/Lyft is allowed to pick up at the taxi stands, right?
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Originally Posted by cheaptom
After many years of the Flyaway and off-site self-parking, I'm planning on using Lyft or Uber from LAX to Downtown.

My main concern is finding my driver in the hectic sea of traffic known as Arrivals T2. I don't think Uber/Lyft is allowed to pick up at the taxi stands, right?
Rideshare services like Uber and Lyft have dedicated pickup points on the upper (departures) level:

https://www.uber.com/airports/lax/

ETA: The dedicated pickup points are designated by the airport. Uber and Lyft use the same ones; there aren't dedicated Uber pickup points and separate Lyft pickup points.

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Old Aug 8, 2017, 1:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Hawaiian717
Rideshare services like Uber and Lyft have dedicated pickup points on the upper (departures) level:
Thanks so much. Never would have thought to head up to departures.
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 3:25 pm
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Originally Posted by Hawaiian717
Rideshare services like Uber and Lyft have dedicated pickup points on the upper (departures) level:

https://www.uber.com/airports/lax/

ETA: The dedicated pickup points are designated by the airport. Uber and Lyft use the same ones; there aren't dedicated Uber pickup points and separate Lyft pickup points.
True for regular Uber. However UberBlack/SUV/Lux can pickup at normal arrivals point.
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Old Aug 8, 2017, 4:01 pm
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Originally Posted by cheaptom
Thanks so much. Never would have thought to head up to departures.
You are looking for ride sharing pickup B, it is between T2 and T3 (serving both).

Some Lyft drivers now have a color changing lighted "mustache" in their front window and the color is shown on the app -- helps you find your ride, assuming the driver bothers to use it

One advantage of front license plates is it also makes it a bit easier to find your driver -- I get frustrated when in a rear on state
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