USA contactless credit/debit/transit (2014-2016)
Sep 4, 2015, 12:33 pm
#1951
Join Date: Feb 2014
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It looks like Pret A Manger has begun the process of accepting contactless and EMV payments in the US. Pret was already a huge contactless supporter in Europe. I noticed recently that one of the Pret locations in Chicago showed up on the MasterCard Contactless locator. I checked it out, and sure enough they now have customer-facing Verifone terminals (VX 820, I think?). Apple Pay worked flawless. Not sure if EMV was enabled yet. Pret was previously like most other quick serve restaurants where you'd hand your card to the cashier to swipe at the register. I'd imagine they'll be rolling this setup out to other locations soon.
Sep 4, 2015, 3:42 pm
#1952
Join Date: Nov 2012
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I think pressing the button twice on the loop pay fob must do something similar as I got a track 2 error on an mx850 but pressed it again and it worked. That most likely means that Android Pay will be EMV Contactless too! I went to a Jack In The Box on the locator and they had ripped out the vivopay 4000s as there were no contactless readers inside at all but I did not check the drive thru. Anything similar happen to your jitb?
Sep 4, 2015, 5:14 pm
#1953
Join Date: Oct 2014
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It looks like Pret A Manger has begun the process of accepting contactless and EMV payments in the US. Pret was already a huge contactless supporter in Europe. I noticed recently that one of the Pret locations in Chicago showed up on the MasterCard Contactless locator. I checked it out, and sure enough they now have customer-facing Verifone terminals (VX 820, I think?). Apple Pay worked flawless. Not sure if EMV was enabled yet. Pret was previously like most other quick serve restaurants where you'd hand your card to the cashier to swipe at the register. I'd imagine they'll be rolling this setup out to other locations soon.
Sep 4, 2015, 5:59 pm
#1954
Join Date: Apr 2015
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Just used Samsung Pay at Mountain Mike's pizza, they had one register with the typical First data terminals for EMV and NFC. THE other register had a Clover Mini station. Both were EMV and NFC enabled. I tried both and Samsung Pay ran as an EMV transaction both times. No card holder verification required and AID printed on the receipt. So Samsung Pay can work in EMV mode.
Sep 4, 2015, 6:50 pm
#1955
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Had two UK card Apple pay fails at Jamba Juice. Amex declined and Visa wouldn't read on Apple pay. U.S. MasterCard on Apple pay worked fine.
Sep 4, 2015, 9:04 pm
#1956
Join Date: Sep 2014
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Looks like Android Pay is coming in two weeks, I got this after Google Wallet complained that it needed to be online every 24hours and I got this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...4-19-42-43.png after I rebooted my phone. ^ I really hope its EMV just like Samsung Pay and Apple Pay, it would not make sense to not do EMV Contactless. But won't that mean it needs bank support? I actually tried to hack it on my phone through this way: http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-t...t-now-0164299/ It did not work, but I now know that it will use the virtual card if your bank does not yet support Android Pay, so it will keep on working the same old way until your bank supports it and then it should support EMV once they do.
Android Pay at Staples.
Last edited by scibot; Sep 4, 2015 at 10:13 pm
Sep 5, 2015, 12:29 am
#1957
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 489
Looks like Android Pay is coming in two weeks, I got this after Google Wallet complained that it needed to be online every 24hours and I got this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...4-19-42-43.png after I rebooted my phone. ^ I really hope its EMV just like Samsung Pay and Apple Pay, it would not make sense to not do EMV Contactless. But won't that mean it needs bank support? I actually tried to hack it on my phone through this way: http://android.wonderhowto.com/how-t...t-now-0164299/ It did not work, but I now know that it will use the virtual card if your bank does not yet support Android Pay, so it will keep on working the same old way until your bank supports it and then it should support EMV once they do.
Android Pay at Staples.
Sep 5, 2015, 1:10 am
#1958
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So the Kroger family of grocery stores probably won't get NFC any time soon. OTOH they'll probably have EMV turned on by October, so that's something at least?
Sep 5, 2015, 1:14 am
#1959
Join Date: Apr 2015
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I can confirm Android Pay will do full EMV. It's interesting to see that Android Pay is the only one of the three to offer EMV and MSD support for both Visa and MasterCard. Also, you can use Android Pay and Samsung Pay at the same time. If you want to use AP, just unlock your phone and tap. SP works by swiping up from the bottom of the screen. Both are just as fast really.
Sep 5, 2015, 1:17 am
#1960
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I can confirm Android Pay will do full EMV. It's interesting to see that Android Pay is the only one of the three to offer EMV and MSD support for both Visa and MasterCard. Also, you can use Android Pay and Samsung Pay at the same time. If you want to use AP, just unlock your phone and tap. SP works by swiping up from the bottom of the screen. Both are just as fast really.
Sep 5, 2015, 1:34 am
#1961
Join Date: Apr 2015
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Yes, but Visa on Apple Pay and Android Pay can't do real MSD contactless, they can only do MSD over EMV communication meaning the older contactless terminals can't read it. Android Pay is the only one with full EMV and MSD support for Visa. MasterCard has full support from all of them.
Sep 5, 2015, 1:46 am
#1962
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Yes, but Visa on Apple Pay and Android Pay can't do real MSD contactless, they can only do MSD over EMV communication meaning the older contactless terminals can't read it. Android Pay is the only one with full EMV and MSD support for Visa. MasterCard has full support from all of them.
Sep 5, 2015, 1:52 am
#1964
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Considering that the primary excuse for removing contactless from the cards appears to be "low use" (at least according to Chase), I doubt much would be lost if removed.
Sep 5, 2015, 2:19 am
#1965
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Yes, but Visa on Apple Pay and Android Pay can't do real MSD contactless, they can only do MSD over EMV communication meaning the older contactless terminals can't read it. Android Pay is the only one with full EMV and MSD support for Visa. MasterCard has full support from all of them.