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belynch Jun 5, 2009 7:43 am


Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 11859753)
"how would anyone else like it if they were being recorded at work?"

We've considered installing "drive cams" in the ambulances at the EMS organization I'm affiliated with. We brought the idea up to the membership and they all agreed it would be a good idea.

If you always conduct yourself in a professional manner and perform your job to the best of your ability then you would welcome something like this, as it would serve no other purpose than to exonerate you.

gbryan84 Jun 5, 2009 7:50 am

So where do I find this publix place with these great subs? Does anyone know if there is one close to FLL airport?

COFreqFlyer Jun 5, 2009 7:51 am

Good morning, b:rolleyes:x.

Who is LMT Air that just joined AM2.0?

sdm1130 Jun 5, 2009 7:53 am


Originally Posted by gbryan84 (Post 11859897)
So where do I find this publix place with these great subs? Does anyone know if there is one close to FLL airport?

In FL, they're on just about every street corner... :) It's just a supermarket.

Mackieman Jun 5, 2009 7:54 am


Originally Posted by gbryan84 (Post 11859897)
So where do I find this publix place with these great subs? Does anyone know if there is one close to FLL airport?

Wish granted.

I haven't been to Florida in years but I remember getting a sammich from Publix when I was in JAX and loving it.

gbryan84 Jun 5, 2009 7:55 am


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 11859909)
In FL, they're on just about every street corner... :) It's just a supermarket.

Thanks, Ill be on the look out. And you say the cubano is the best?

ETA: Thanks Mackieman, even better.

Scott6067 Jun 5, 2009 7:57 am

I have always found the CO ads to be great but this new one takes the cake!!!

"Eat. There are starving people on other Airlines"

Hartmann Jun 5, 2009 8:01 am


Originally Posted by Scott6067 (Post 11859939)
I have always found the CO ads to be great but this new one takes the cake!!!

"Eat. There are starving people on other Airlines"

F. T. W.

Steph3n Jun 5, 2009 8:16 am


Originally Posted by gbryan84 (Post 11859927)
Thanks, Ill be on the look out. And you say the cubano is the best?

ETA: Thanks Mackieman, even better.

I said they have the best mass cubano, some of the SMALL shops that make it all fresh the old way may be better. But their boars head subs in generally are pretty good.
Look for the green sign ;)

belynch Jun 5, 2009 8:17 am


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 11860029)
Look for the green sign ;)

Or me standing on the corner stuffing my face with a very impatient Canuck.

Steph3n Jun 5, 2009 8:19 am


Originally Posted by belynch (Post 11860036)
Or me standing on the corner stuffing my face with a very impatient Canuck.

speaking of stuffing your face and your love of doughnuts, have you been to AUS and had the round rock donuts? They are supposedly some of the best in TX, never tried them myself

sbm12 Jun 5, 2009 8:24 am


Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 11859753)
I saw a story yesterday on CBS where they talked about relaying flight data to satellites rather than storing it in black boxes, yet a pilots union spokesman said, "how would anyone else like it if they were being recorded at work?". :rolleyes: My job does not require me to have people's lives directly in my hands.

The bandwidth required to transmit all that data all the time is huge. Like 4Gbit just for the flights over the USA or something like that. Put that on satellites because it cannot be a terrestrial system and then you probably need redundancy because it is important, right, and the costs become HUGE in a hurry.

It is cost prohibitive and provides very little additional value. The frequency with which a plane is completely lost and the recorders not recovered is so low that the cost-benefit analysis just doesn't make sense. Even if the search had started 4 hours earlier on this one the people would have almost certainly suffered the same fate and the chances for debris recovery would be about the same.

belynch Jun 5, 2009 8:24 am


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 11860042)
speaking of stuffing your face and your love of doughnuts

I don't know how to take that :o.

No, never had them. I'll add them to my list along with "Top Pot" (which sounds like a bad teen movie).

Hartmann Jun 5, 2009 8:29 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 11860062)
The bandwidth required to transmit all that data all the time is huge. Like 4Gbit just for the flights over the USA or something like that. Put that on satellites because it cannot be a terrestrial system and then you probably need redundancy because it is important, right, and the costs become HUGE in a hurry.

It is cost prohibitive and provides very little additional value. The frequency with which a plane is completely lost and the recorders not recovered is so low that the cost-benefit analysis just doesn't make sense. Even if the search had started 4 hours earlier on this one the people would have almost certainly suffered the same fate and the chances for debris recovery would be about the same.

So why not transmit at intervals and keep the FDRs? It seems idiotic that in this day and age we do not know exactly where planes are over the ocean.

Sure loss of the data recorders is rare so maybe that isn't what needs to be transmitted, maybe it's just location, speed, altitude, and heading.

Steph3n Jun 5, 2009 8:30 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 11860062)
The bandwidth required to transmit all that data all the time is huge. Like 4Gbit just for the flights over the USA or something like that. Put that on satellites because it cannot be a terrestrial system and then you probably need redundancy because it is important, right, and the costs become HUGE in a hurry.

It is cost prohibitive and provides very little additional value. The frequency with which a plane is completely lost and the recorders not recovered is so low that the cost-benefit analysis just doesn't make sense. Even if the search had started 4 hours earlier on this one the people would have almost certainly suffered the same fate and the chances for debris recovery would be about the same.

it could be done with voice to text reasonably, maybe a few inaccuracies in there, but much less bandwidth. In addition domestic could be done via ground links.


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