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Steph3n Jun 1, 2009 5:58 am

It has now been a week since any miles, segments etc have posted on my onepass account, I didn't even get DEQM on my 2 segments that DID post.

ConciergeMike Jun 1, 2009 6:01 am

Morning, Box. Lots of :rolleyes: so early in the day, what with GM and AF. Add to that that I haven't had coffee.

colpuck Jun 1, 2009 6:04 am

Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPhone; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5H11 Safari/525.20)

I would imagine that etops regs require the plane to carry a sat phone. CNN is now stating that the plane sent a signal about electrical problems.

ConciergeMike Jun 1, 2009 6:13 am

How badly is CNN butchering this story? Is it an A380 regional jet?

photog72 Jun 1, 2009 6:14 am

Still no word on that AF A332.:(

fozz Jun 1, 2009 6:22 am


Originally Posted by rolov (Post 11836429)
Good morning box. Not looking like a good day today. AF plane went missing last night GIG-CDG and GM will be filing CH 11 in about a half an hour.

Sad news indeed. I was on that very plane last year on a CDG-EWR flight. :(


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 11836510)
It has not been a week since any miles, segments etc have posted on my onepass account, I didn't even get DEQM on my 2 segments that DID post.

You're not alone and I'm glad someone else is seeing it as well. I was starting to wonder. :)

sbm12 Jun 1, 2009 6:23 am


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 11836507)
It does look this way. I hope they are all found alive but not looking too good right now.

Very sad indeed. I think that it will be impressive if they find the plane and bodies at all, much less alive. The ocean is a very large place. :( :(

There are people suggesting that they could have been flying below radar for some reason or that they landed in Africa at an airfield without comms. I find both of those highly unlikely. Even a remote airstrip that takes in an A330 would probably have some cell coverage.

rolov Jun 1, 2009 6:23 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11836572)
How badly is CNN butchering this story? Is it an A380 regional jet?

They actually were pretty good, excepts someone made a comment about the possible landing on water since it was also an Airbus like the one that landed in the Hudson.

ConciergeMike Jun 1, 2009 6:29 am

the A330's Wiki page has already been updated:


On 1 June 2009, Air France Flight 447, an Airbus A330-200 en route from Rio de Janeiro to Paris with 228 people onboard (including 12 flight crew and three pilots), disappeared from Brazilian radar. It was reported that the plane was lost over the Atlantic Ocean after reporting turbulence and an electrical failure; a Brazilian search and rescue mission is underway near the island of Fernando de Noronha, but Air France indicated that it had lost hope for the aircraft's survival. The plane disappeared 300km (186 miles) north-east of the Brazilian city of Natal.[12]

Steph3n Jun 1, 2009 6:29 am


Originally Posted by fozz (Post 11836601)


You're not alone and I'm glad someone else is seeing it as well. I was starting to wonder. :)

ok good to know I am not alone in that, I was starting to get worried, I will be contacting them this week if not posted soon.
If I had an EUAable flight in the next two weeks I would be on them already as my status will be changed as soon as the EQM post for all my recent flights. :D

Alas I am on CoCo and COEx for the near future.

Steph3n Jun 1, 2009 6:30 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11836634)
the A330's Wiki page has already been updated:

Someone is jumping the gun on Wiki right now.
About flying 'under radar' to africa.....I can't see that being successful, burning a LOT more fuel and landing at an airport small enough to not have a tower or phone is highly unlikely.

photog72 Jun 1, 2009 6:34 am


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 11836642)
Someone is jumping the gun on Wiki right now.


The plane disappeared 300km (186 miles) north-east of the Brazilian city of Natal.
Has this fact been verified? There are some reports that the plane was lost near Africa. And, AF is stating that is was probably struck by lightning. Would lightning bring it down?

Steph3n Jun 1, 2009 6:36 am


Originally Posted by photog72 (Post 11836653)
Has this fact been verified? There are some reports that the plane was lost near Africa. And, AF is stating that is was probably struck by lightning. Would lightning bring it down?

Planes are struck by lightning more than you'd think.

They don't NORMALLY go down.

As far as where, no idea. I'd imagine they are guessing based on when it went off Brazilian Radar and the time of last contact.

rolov Jun 1, 2009 6:38 am


Originally Posted by photog72 (Post 11836653)
Has this fact been verified? There are some reports that the plane was lost near Africa. And, AF is stating that is was probably struck by lightning. Would lightning bring it down?

They have conflicting reports, Brazil is searching a few hours east of Recife, I forgot the Island name.

ConciergeMike Jun 1, 2009 6:38 am


Originally Posted by photog72 (Post 11836653)
Has this fact been verified? There are some reports that the plane was lost near Africa. And, AF is stating that is was probably struck by lightning. Would lightning bring it down?

Yes to the first part. Wiki's source is the BBC. Lightning could theoretically bring down an aircraft, sure...fry the entire system, and even the backups won't respond.


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