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rolov Jun 1, 2009 7:10 am


Originally Posted by fozz (Post 11836794)
Or slowly becoming an Aloft whore. :D

He should say "Aloha Box, TED wants you to be safe"

ConciergeMike Jun 1, 2009 7:11 am

My MacBook of choice tips the scales at 1,826 clams/3,652 yielded OP miles. All you Mac devotees better not be :rolleyes:-ing me if I'm going to drop that kind of coin on an unfamiliar product.

rolov Jun 1, 2009 7:12 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 11836801)
You say that like it is a bad thing. As long as you are looking at it as entertainment it should be fun. I might start it just to hear how the B1900 is an inherently unsafe plane. ;)

http://www.tampabay.com/news/busines...cle1003561.ece

PSU Mudder Jun 1, 2009 7:12 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11836749)
I was considering editorializing the bit about Air France having given up ("another French surrender") but thankfully you cracked the first joke and not me.

It's never too early to crack the first disaster joke. Of course my perspective is skewed by having been in middle school when the Challenger blew up.

http://www.ooze.com/articles/9-11-jokes.html

ConciergeMike Jun 1, 2009 7:13 am


Originally Posted by rolov (Post 11836800)
People on a.net are posting ACARS messages and doing their usual :rolleyes:

Boeing's better! One of theirs didn't crash today! </a.nut nerd impersonation>

sbm12 Jun 1, 2009 7:17 am


Originally Posted by rolov (Post 11836814)

So strange and non-sequitor that they added the last paragraph to that article about the Colgan crash. I guess that makes it relevant, huh?

rolov Jun 1, 2009 7:19 am

This is :rolleyes:

Originally Posted by flytofly (Post 11836770)
My prayers go out to passengers and families.
I am afraid that we should be prepared for the worst.

BTW, I never regarded AF as safe as LH.


rolov Jun 1, 2009 7:22 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 11836838)
So strange and non-sequitor that they added the last paragraph to that article about the Colgan crash. I guess that makes it relevant, huh?

Did the Colgan pilots come from there :
Continental Airlines told CNN, “We expect our partners to adhere to the highest safety standards.”


But, there have been other recent plane crashes involving pilots from Gulfstream Academy, including a Colgan Air crash that killed 50 people as their plane neared Buffalo, New York. In 2004, two pilots, both graduates of Gulfstream Academy, died near Jefferson City, Missouri after taking a Pinnacle Air plane on a joy ride up to 41,000 feet. They crashed after losing control of the plane. The National Transportation Safety Board blamed “the pilots’ unprofessional behavior” and “poor airmanship.” And in 2003, a pilot of a private airplane, who was still training at Gulfstream, crashed into another plane off the coast of Deerfield Beach, Florida, killing all five people aboard both airplanes.

“The one thing that ties them all together is poor airmanship,” said Captain Jack Casey, Chief Operating Officer of Safety Operating System, an aviation consulting firm. “You cannot build sophisticated airline pilot skills on top of a soft foundation.”

ConciergeMike Jun 1, 2009 7:25 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 11836838)
So strange and non-sequitor that they added the last paragraph to that article about the Colgan crash. I guess that makes it relevant, huh?

Relevance is created by any connection, no matter how Kevin Bacon-ish, the talking heads can make that will in their minds create fear and widespread panic.

sbm12 Jun 1, 2009 7:27 am


Originally Posted by rolov (Post 11836864)
Did the Colgan pilots come from there :

The PIC did complete training with Gulfstream's training arm, though that is a whole different world than the actual airline. Specious connection at best.

ConciergeMike Jun 1, 2009 7:31 am


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 11836888)
The PIC did complete training with Gulfstream's training arm, though that is a whole different world than the actual airline. Specious connection at best.

The revenue passenger side of Gulfstream will often cherry-pick the top of the class to stay there and start in the right seat of the Beech. It usually takes those people a year or two to upgrade to the left seat, and they will either stay there doing shorthauls or gain enough time in the left seat to shop themselves to a regional, now with a ton more turboprop time and a much better shot at getting hired. One of the videos on their website covers this, IIRC. That's how the connection doesn't become so specious...they're keeping the top pilots in-house and sending the middle and lower tier grads out on RJ interviews.

belynch Jun 1, 2009 7:32 am


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11836789)
We never know whether you're coming or going. :rolleyes:

Neither do I. :rolleyes:

Hartmann Jun 1, 2009 7:35 am

CO.com has gone off the :rolleyes: cliff. Still unable to book a ticket. :mad: :mad:

PSU Mudder Jun 1, 2009 7:39 am

Has the DHARMA Initiative released a statement on the AF plane yet?

kingalien Jun 1, 2009 7:40 am

Good Morning Box.


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