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ConciergeMike Feb 2, 2009 11:54 am


Originally Posted by baglady (Post 11187232)
My DO flight cleared 5 days out but it could be because it's a redeye from Vegas :rolleyes:

Indeed. You're flying out just when the parties really start to get going. :D

baglady Feb 2, 2009 12:06 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 11187260)
Yes. Y/B gets you a seat in F if there's one available.


I had a Y fare that I changed flights on (moved to an earlier flight) and was told that there was not a Y up seat available; however there was an A for $50 more. I wanted to get home, so I paid it. I've seen other cases online where Yups weren't available, but F was still for sale (this was in Nov.) so bought an A fare instead.

COFlyerCLE Feb 2, 2009 12:07 pm

Hrmm... just got the email from CO about winter storm heading to NY/NJ tonight/tomorrow.

Wonder what the chances are my flight to LGA will be cx tomorrow... for an interview. Ugghh.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Feb 2, 2009 12:10 pm


Originally Posted by baglady (Post 11187378)
I had a Y fare that I changed flights on (moved to an earlier flight) and was told that there was not a Y up seat available; however there was an A for $50 more. I wanted to get home, so I paid it. I've seen other cases online where Yups weren't available, but F was still for sale (this was in Nov.) so bought an A fare instead.

That shouldn't happen:


Full Fare Economy Y and Discount Full Fare Economy B fare classes or Northwest Airlines -26/-27 fare: Allows all Elite members to upgrade at the time of ticketing when a seat is available. If a member is already ticketed and wants to request the upgrade, they can visit Manage Reservations or call their Elite Priority Line and provide their confirmation number.
Source.

The language is unequivocal - "when a seat is available." No mention of certain fare buckets having to be available. Either the agent was wrong, or CO isn't being up front about its Y/B upgrade policies.

rolov Feb 2, 2009 12:11 pm


Originally Posted by baglady (Post 11187378)
I had a Y fare that I changed flights on (moved to an earlier flight) and was told that there was not a Y up seat available; however there was an A for $50 more. I wanted to get home, so I paid it. I've seen other cases online where Yups weren't available, but F was still for sale (this was in Nov.) so bought an A fare instead.

ALCO made me delete this post .

rolov Feb 2, 2009 12:12 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 11187405)
That shouldn't happen:



Source.

The language is unequivocal - "when a seat is available." No mention of certain fare buckets having to be available. Either the agent was wrong, or CO isn't being up front about its Y/B upgrade policies.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Discrimination for being hispanic
:p

Hartmann Feb 2, 2009 12:13 pm

Anything interesting to do in CMH?

It's CMH or BTV for a short mileage run. I'm thinking BTV simply for more miles.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Feb 2, 2009 12:14 pm

I'm thinking what may have occurred in baglady's case was that the Y bucket was not available on the earlier flight. Sometimes CO will zero out Y fares, when it thinks it can actually sell F seats on a flight. If there was no Y fare-bucket to move to on the earlier flight, then A may have been the only option for obtaining an F seat.

ETA - Also, sometimes Y is just completely sold out on the other flight, meaning that the only way to get F is to buy-up (assuming there's an F seat for sale).

baglady Feb 2, 2009 12:15 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 11187405)
That shouldn't happen:



Source.

The language is unequivocal - "when a seat is available." No mention of certain fare buckets having to be available. Either the agent was wrong, or CO isn't being up front about its Y/B upgrade policies.

In the one case, it could have been the agent; in the other it would have been co.com - either way; I've had two specific cases where Y up wasn't available but A was.

belynch Feb 2, 2009 12:18 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 11187432)
If there was no Y fare-bucket to move to on the earlier flight, then A may have been the only option for obtaining an F seat.

That happened to me last year. The CSR pretty clearly explained that buying a Y seat is buying a coach seat, even if it puts me, immediately, in First. Being that Y was 0'ed out the only way to get my arse on the plane was to actually pony up for the First.

Seeing as our auditors would need an extra pack of Pull-Ups after plotzing themselves if I tried to get reimbursement for a domestic trip in paid First, I opted against it and ended up sitting wherever I was banging my :rolleyes: against the wall.

ConciergeMike Feb 2, 2009 12:19 pm


Originally Posted by COFlyerCLE (Post 11187380)
Wonder what the chances are my flight to LGA will be cx tomorrow... for an interview. Ugghh.

Multiply any chances of cxl by a factor of 10 if it's an RJ.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Feb 2, 2009 12:21 pm


Originally Posted by belynch (Post 11187472)
Seeing as our auditors would need an extra pack of Pull-Ups after plotzing themselves if I tried to get reimbursement for a domestic trip in paid First, I opted against it and ended up sitting wherever I was banging my :rolleyes: against the wall.

It looks like I'm about to have an expense auditing department...

The Significant Otter.

COFlyerCLE Feb 2, 2009 12:21 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 11187480)
Multiply any chances of cxl by a factor of 10 if it's an RJ.

Luckily, it is a 737-700 on the flight out, which is all that really matters. It's a CHQ flight home, so the chances of that going, even on a sunny day... is... well... ;)

ConciergeMike Feb 2, 2009 12:29 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 11187493)
It looks like I'm about to have an expense auditing department...

The Significant Otter.

I've got one of those too. I'm trying to teach her the standard :rolleyes: exemption that involves paying for convenience. But, this is me who got half the tax refund that she did this year.

baglady Feb 2, 2009 12:30 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 11187432)
I'm thinking what may have occurred in baglady's case was that the Y bucket was not available on the earlier flight. Sometimes CO will zero out Y fares, when it thinks it can actually sell F seats on a flight. If there was no Y fare-bucket to move to on the earlier flight, then A may have been the only option for obtaining an F seat.

ETA - Also, sometimes Y is just completely sold out on the other flight, meaning that the only way to get F is to buy-up (assuming there's an F seat for sale).

That makes complete sense.


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