FlyerTalk Forums

FlyerTalk Forums (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/index.php)
-   Continental OnePass (Pre-Merger) (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/continental-onepass-pre-merger-488/)
-   -   The Penalty Box (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/continental-onepass-pre-merger/710031-penalty-box.html)

Scott6067 Nov 18, 2008 10:19 pm


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 10774985)
Yeah - I read about this earlier this evening. They are apparently buying ATA's LGA slots. Very surprising because they always said the ATC delays in the NY market would be too much of a problem for them.

In any case, I'm not sure I see this having much (if any) impact on CO at EWR.

Is it just me or is SWA becoming like a Legacy Airline, they now have a business option for better seats and booze (kinda like first), they have gone into airports not previously in their model, and they have international code-shares. What is next lounges?

ConciergeMike Nov 18, 2008 10:24 pm


Originally Posted by Scott6067 (Post 10775055)
Is it just me or is SWA becoming like a Legacy Airline, they now have a business option for better seats and booze (kinda like first), they have gone into airports not previously in their model, and they have international code-shares. What is next lounges?

The airports not previously in their model thing is because they're running out of airports that do fit the model. The concept of secondary airports to avoid higher fees and ATC issues ran out when they went back to SFO and opened DEN.

I agree re: no trouble for CO, but that's only because of the lack of slots. Seven flights a day is nothing for WN. My bet is on MDW and BWI, 4x and 3x each.

sdm1130 Nov 18, 2008 10:30 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 10775075)
I agree re: no trouble for CO, but that's only because of the lack of slots. Seven flights a day is nothing for WN. My bet is on MDW and BWI, 4x and 3x each.

MDW is likely but I'd imagine they'll try and get a FL (maybe TPA with connections to the rest of FL?) destination. I'm not sure there would be much of a (WN) market for LGA-BWI.

ConciergeMike Nov 18, 2008 10:41 pm


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 10775098)
MDW is likely but I'd imagine they'll try and get a FL (maybe TPA with connections to the rest of FL?) destination. I'm not sure there would be much of a (WN) market for LGA-BWI.

I'm not sold on them using those 7 precious flights for leisure flying.

sdm1130 Nov 18, 2008 10:48 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 10775135)
I'm not sold on them using those 7 precious flights for leisure flying.

I think a bulk of them will definitely be used for MDW. Maybe they'll try HOU as well? I still wouldn't count out the possibility of a few FL flights. With Amtrak and the DL shuttle, I just can't see LGA-BWI being all that successful.

jrzyshawn Nov 18, 2008 10:50 pm

Does anyone have a link for the SWA LGA press release?

I tried searching their website, cant find it.

ConciergeMike Nov 18, 2008 10:57 pm


Originally Posted by jrzyshawn (Post 10775172)
Does anyone have a link for the SWA LGA press release?

I tried searching their website, cant find it.

No release yet that I know of. Just a Dallas News article.

ConciergeMike Nov 18, 2008 11:00 pm


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 10775159)
I think a bulk of them will definitely be used for MDW. Maybe they'll try HOU as well? I still wouldn't count out the possibility of a few FL flights. With Amtrak and the DL shuttle, I just can't see LGA-BWI being all that successful.

I only said BWI due to large network presence. HOU is certainly a good pick too.

jrzyshawn Nov 18, 2008 11:03 pm

I dont mind flying out of LGA and connecting in IAH, more miles and better upgrade chance :) I hope the fares from LGA drop with WN there.

rkkwan Nov 18, 2008 11:11 pm

My mom's flying CO99 EWR-HKG in BF on Thursday. 50 seat AVOD aircraft. 35 booked. Of those, 27 are "upgrades", my mom included. That means only 8 bought a BF ticket or claimed a BF award. The week before Thanskgiving - few business people going to the Far East, I suppose.

fozz Nov 18, 2008 11:49 pm


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 10774945)
CO added EWR-GRU (for $699+) to the list of specials for this weekend. I'm convinced that I've lost my mind because I actually considered going...

There is also a $680+ fare available this weekend if you play with the dates a little.

Wow, that's insane. If I wasn't going on a 10-day trip around the Pac-Rim I too would be really considering it!

fozz Nov 18, 2008 11:57 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 10775075)
The airports not previously in their model thing is because they're running out of airports that do fit the model. The concept of secondary airports to avoid higher fees and ATC issues ran out when they went back to SFO and opened DEN.

I agree re: no trouble for CO, but that's only because of the lack of slots. Seven flights a day is nothing for WN. My bet is on MDW and BWI, 4x and 3x each.

Actually I think WN has indeed changed their model. For DEN, the alternative is COS which hasn't seen much traffic since Western Pacific died.

As for SFO, that was a few factors. 1) AS decided to start a SFO-SAN service to challenge UA. (Prior to that and after WN left, the fares were up to $800) and WN realized they could be doing those runs instead. 2) SFO became a convenient airport once the BART connection happened and SJC/OAk have progressivley become worse airports to travel through. 3) It's believed that SFO offered some major concessions to bring WN back

I'm particularly surprised with WN attempting to go into LGA. It will cause major ripples through their relatively smooth operation. I would have expected them to go into HPN or TTN instead of LGA. It does appear with their recent changes, they are attempting to get more of the legacy business and away from their core...

fozz Nov 19, 2008 12:01 am

If the box ever had a magazine, it would be this.

ssullivan Nov 19, 2008 6:10 am

Morning Box.


There. I beat everyone else to it. :p

ssullivan Nov 19, 2008 6:11 am


Originally Posted by fozz (Post 10775390)
If the box ever had a magazine, it would be this.

Modern Drunkard. How appropriate.


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 8:07 pm.


This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.