Wiki/Reviewi For TYN 90K Fixed Redemption Strategies
#766
Join Date: May 2005
Location: California
Posts: 147
#767
Join Date: May 2005
Location: California
Posts: 147
This may not be the case. For example, if you only change the date of an AA award ticket, your confirmation number will remain the same. I think it is also the case for a refundable ticket if you can exchange it online.
#768
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 13
I found a flight on expedia that shows a fare of:
$1,911.02 + $49.38 taxes & fees = total fare for $1,960.40
Does the current $1800 cap cover this considering excise tax?
The $1800 + $135 (7.5% excise tax) = $1935 threshold
So does the TOTAL FARE($1960.40) have to below $1935 threshold or does the fare with ($1911.02) have to below $1935?
$1,911.02 + $49.38 taxes & fees = total fare for $1,960.40
Does the current $1800 cap cover this considering excise tax?
The $1800 + $135 (7.5% excise tax) = $1935 threshold
So does the TOTAL FARE($1960.40) have to below $1935 threshold or does the fare with ($1911.02) have to below $1935?
#769
Join Date: Nov 2006
Programs: UA nothing (former multi-year CO Platinum), AA 1M Gold, HH Diamond, National Executive
Posts: 449
From past experience you can use any CO voucher for any ticket available on their website - be it refundable or non-refundable. The voucher is used as a form of payment instead of a credit card, western union, etc. Therefore, you can use vouchers to pay for refundable fares.
Another tidbit for you CO'ers. One concern I had with booking the 20k domestic fixed point flights ($400 max) was loss of 100% EQM for lower tier fares. My original 90k redemption ticket, "purchased" via TY/Expedia, was changed by me on-line at CO.com to a low cost "T" fare". Normally T fares booked by a 3rd party will earn only 50% EQM, but I received 100% EQM. If you stay with TYP and the variable redemptions, this tells me that you can probably book a low cost refundable ticket on line via TY/Expedia and then change it to a cheap fare that you want on CO.com. Pay the difference with your PPE and get 100% EQM from the airline plus flight points from TY.
#770
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Mid-Atlantic
Programs: AA Plat, UA Silver, DL Silver, Marriott Titanium, etc.
Posts: 4,210
I really want to use the voucher for a NW flight, this flight does not show up on delta.com, but does show on its award ticket inventory (only that no award seats available at lower miles and that is why I am thinking about TYP). So, with the delta voucher that I get by TYP, will I be able to use it for such a NW flight? Have anyone had such an experience, greatly appreciate if you could share..
#771
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: PDX
Programs: AS MVP, HH Diamond
Posts: 2,561
I found a flight on expedia that shows a fare of:
$1,911.02 + $49.38 taxes & fees = total fare for $1,960.40
Does the current $1800 cap cover this considering excise tax?
The $1800 + $135 (7.5% excise tax) = $1935 threshold
So does the TOTAL FARE($1960.40) have to below $1935 threshold or does the fare with ($1911.02) have to below $1935?
$1,911.02 + $49.38 taxes & fees = total fare for $1,960.40
Does the current $1800 cap cover this considering excise tax?
The $1800 + $135 (7.5% excise tax) = $1935 threshold
So does the TOTAL FARE($1960.40) have to below $1935 threshold or does the fare with ($1911.02) have to below $1935?
(1911.02)/1.075 = $1777.69, which is less than $1800, so you are good to go.
You'll be asked to pay: (1911.02-1777.69)+$49.38 = $133.33+$49.38 = $182.71
and have a voucher worth: $1960.40
#772
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,763
Here is a possible way. Use your voucher to book a refundable ticket for a little lower value than the ticket you really want (lots of cheap refundable fares on SWA routes in Texas/other places). After a few days, change it to what you really want and pay the difference via your PPE card.
#773
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: San Francisco (Marin County), CA
Programs: UA Global Services, AA Lifetime ExecPlat, LH HON Circle, SQ PPS Solitaire, Hyatt Courtesy Card
Posts: 3,002
Any advice on this?
I want to redeem 180,000 on United and was considering trying to do ONE Europe ticket for $3600 cap. I found what I thought was a good fare: April 8 to 15, ORD-FCO, $3864 all in and $3541 is the pre-tax price. So $59 below the cap. However, I noticed the change fee is $400.
I then started to look at United "cheap" business class fares to Europe...they all appear to have $400 change fees.
So I guess my strategy is not good - I should be looking for two $1800 domestic tickets and pay $150 change fee on each ($300 total), versus paying $400 for a Europe change fee. Does this sound correct to you knowledgeable folks? Thanks! ^
I want to redeem 180,000 on United and was considering trying to do ONE Europe ticket for $3600 cap. I found what I thought was a good fare: April 8 to 15, ORD-FCO, $3864 all in and $3541 is the pre-tax price. So $59 below the cap. However, I noticed the change fee is $400.
I then started to look at United "cheap" business class fares to Europe...they all appear to have $400 change fees.
So I guess my strategy is not good - I should be looking for two $1800 domestic tickets and pay $150 change fee on each ($300 total), versus paying $400 for a Europe change fee. Does this sound correct to you knowledgeable folks? Thanks! ^
#774
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,763
I gather you KNOW UA policy on ticket change on International tickets. That is, you can only change to another international ticket with equal value. If you want to change to another domestic ticket, it needs to be equal OR higher value. Both need to be on UA own metals.
Otherwise you would not think of redeeming an international ticket on UA.
Exact wordings can be found on UA website by searching key words International ticket change or something like that.
Otherwise you would not think of redeeming an international ticket on UA.
Exact wordings can be found on UA website by searching key words International ticket change or something like that.
Any advice on this?
I want to redeem 180,000 on United and was considering trying to do ONE Europe ticket for $3600 cap. I found what I thought was a good fare: April 8 to 15, ORD-FCO, $3864 all in and $3541 is the pre-tax price. So $59 below the cap. However, I noticed the change fee is $400.
I then started to look at United "cheap" business class fares to Europe...they all appear to have $400 change fees.
So I guess my strategy is not good - I should be looking for two $1800 domestic tickets and pay $150 change fee on each ($300 total), versus paying $400 for a Europe change fee. Does this sound correct to you knowledgeable folks? Thanks! ^
I want to redeem 180,000 on United and was considering trying to do ONE Europe ticket for $3600 cap. I found what I thought was a good fare: April 8 to 15, ORD-FCO, $3864 all in and $3541 is the pre-tax price. So $59 below the cap. However, I noticed the change fee is $400.
I then started to look at United "cheap" business class fares to Europe...they all appear to have $400 change fees.
So I guess my strategy is not good - I should be looking for two $1800 domestic tickets and pay $150 change fee on each ($300 total), versus paying $400 for a Europe change fee. Does this sound correct to you knowledgeable folks? Thanks! ^
#775
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: San Francisco (Marin County), CA
Programs: UA Global Services, AA Lifetime ExecPlat, LH HON Circle, SQ PPS Solitaire, Hyatt Courtesy Card
Posts: 3,002
OK, thanks, I did not know that. I will definitely just ticket two $1800 domestics.
If anyone is looking for a good $18000 on UA, try LAS-JFK on April dates. I am getting some tickets for $1916.99 + $56.61.
$1919.99/1.075 = $1783.25. Pretty good.
If anyone is looking for a good $18000 on UA, try LAS-JFK on April dates. I am getting some tickets for $1916.99 + $56.61.
$1919.99/1.075 = $1783.25. Pretty good.
#777
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 8
I posted earlier in this thread about CO redemptions that would work. EWR-YVR for pretty much any date gives you a refundable ticket (so no change fee) for ~$1750 + $200 taxes. You will need to call up CO to change the ticket and request the remaining value to be put on an e-cert which will be valid for one year. Others have posted about workarounds to extend the date validity of the e-cert (basically you need to purchase a refundable ticket slightly more than the value of the ecert, and then cancel, which will result in a brand new ecert with an additional years validity being issued).
SFO-YYZ gives you a non-refundable ticket ~$1790 + $200 in taxes (you have to play around with dates to get this price).
SFO-YYZ gives you a non-refundable ticket ~$1790 + $200 in taxes (you have to play around with dates to get this price).
**EDIT**: Just tried laredo to anchorage and the price works ($1906 before tax) but the flight is fully refundable, and a different csr again confirmed that the refund would have to go back to the original form of payment.
TIA.
Last edited by suga; Feb 16, 2009 at 7:43 pm
#778
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 81
Best Airline for Hawaii fares
Is one of these airlines better for flights to Hawaii? If I'm going to do this deal, I would want to use the voucher for a Hawaii trip, leaving from Spokane, Seattle, or Portland. I just can't seem to find if there is a benefit of one airline over another when it comes to getting around in Hawaii, or going to Hawaii. Are most people picking their airlines based solely on their Rewards programs?
#779
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 42
One confirmation question before I book. I found an AA flight that works, but the last leg of the flight is on another carrier.
The main leg of the AA flight (business class portion) has the restrictive fare rules ("CANCELLATIONS TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE") and the connecting flight on Alaska Air (operated by AA) has the "Changes are permitted"' language, but the most restrictive rules will apply to the entire ticket correct?
Thanks
The main leg of the AA flight (business class portion) has the restrictive fare rules ("CANCELLATIONS TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE") and the connecting flight on Alaska Air (operated by AA) has the "Changes are permitted"' language, but the most restrictive rules will apply to the entire ticket correct?
Thanks
Last edited by Fold0rDie; Feb 16, 2009 at 8:59 pm
#780
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 29,763
I just called Continental about a business flight from EWR to YVR and asked how the ticket would be refunded if I cancelled, and the csr said they have to refund it back to the method of payment. So, are you saying I just have to keep trying for a CSR who will give me an e-cert? Or, what other routes are around $1,800 on CO and are non-refundable?
**EDIT**: Just tried laredo to anchorage and the price works ($1906 before tax) but the flight is fully refundable, and a different csr again confirmed that the refund would have to go back to the original form of payment.
TIA.
**EDIT**: Just tried laredo to anchorage and the price works ($1906 before tax) but the flight is fully refundable, and a different csr again confirmed that the refund would have to go back to the original form of payment.
TIA.
Frankly why there are still folks trying to be cute to get a refundable tkt at this late stage of the game is beyond me.
There have been enough posts about how a refundable can bite you if anything goes wrong, and more than a couple persons reported how it did not work out as planned...
Why would you try to save $150 and risk you may end up having NOTHING?
One confirmation question before I book. I found an AA flight that works, but the last leg of the flight is on another carrier.
The main leg of the AA flight (business class portion) has the restrictive fare rules ("change fee is $150") and the connecting flight on Alaska Air has the "changes permitted"' language, but the most restrictive rules will apply to the entire ticket correct?
Thanks
The main leg of the AA flight (business class portion) has the restrictive fare rules ("change fee is $150") and the connecting flight on Alaska Air has the "changes permitted"' language, but the most restrictive rules will apply to the entire ticket correct?
Thanks