Wiki/Reviewi For TYN 90K Fixed Redemption Strategies
#736
Join Date: Jan 2008
Programs: aa, onepass, skymiles
Posts: 116
So from your response, the verbage to pose to DL CS rep is: "Can I book flights for a companion using the residual value on my e-Credit ?"
Thanks
Scott
#737
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 10
Advice w/180K tyn points, I'll pay $20 for advice
Guys,
I've saved up 180K TYN points, which took years... and was very disappointed that CITI pulled the rug out from under me. My parents are elderly, and I want to maximize use of this toward many many tickets over time to allow them to fly down to see the grandkids.
I did a seperate post asking for advice but didnt get any responses, so I offer $20 paypal or $20 donation to charity of their choice to the person who helps me with my ticket itinerary.
I am looking to convert ticket into whichever airline (preferably AA or CO) that will allow me to use the $3800 over several years with minimal change ticket fees (my guess is my parents tiks from the west coast generally cost $300 when the come out so I'd like to use this for 10+ tickets without the $150 or $250 intl change fee each time).
Thanks in advance for your help.
Mike
I've saved up 180K TYN points, which took years... and was very disappointed that CITI pulled the rug out from under me. My parents are elderly, and I want to maximize use of this toward many many tickets over time to allow them to fly down to see the grandkids.
I did a seperate post asking for advice but didnt get any responses, so I offer $20 paypal or $20 donation to charity of their choice to the person who helps me with my ticket itinerary.
I am looking to convert ticket into whichever airline (preferably AA or CO) that will allow me to use the $3800 over several years with minimal change ticket fees (my guess is my parents tiks from the west coast generally cost $300 when the come out so I'd like to use this for 10+ tickets without the $150 or $250 intl change fee each time).
Thanks in advance for your help.
Mike
#738
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: LAX
Programs: AA, UA, DL, SPG
Posts: 6
AA booking suggestions
Hi-I finally booked a 90K business class reward on AA for $1799 (1934 on Expedia) + around 191 in taxes (including the 7.5%). From EYW to FAT. It seems that all dates work.
The way I went about searching for AA flights: I looked for flights from small airports near one hub to small airports near another hub--basically from small airport in either Florida (connecting via MIA) to Texas (connecting via DFW) or from Florida or Texas to an airport in California connecting via LAX or SFO. It seems that on Expedia, all American flights on puddle jumpers (the flights on American Eagle) are non-refundable, so using this combination, I was able to assure myself that my entire booking is non-refundable.
Here is a link to all the smaller airports that AA serves: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America...s_destinations
Hope this helps!
The way I went about searching for AA flights: I looked for flights from small airports near one hub to small airports near another hub--basically from small airport in either Florida (connecting via MIA) to Texas (connecting via DFW) or from Florida or Texas to an airport in California connecting via LAX or SFO. It seems that on Expedia, all American flights on puddle jumpers (the flights on American Eagle) are non-refundable, so using this combination, I was able to assure myself that my entire booking is non-refundable.
Here is a link to all the smaller airports that AA serves: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America...s_destinations
Hope this helps!
#739
Join Date: Aug 2008
Posts: 42
Thx
#740
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: PDX
Programs: AS MVP, HH Diamond
Posts: 2,561
Guys,
I've saved up 180K TYN points, which took years... and was very disappointed that CITI pulled the rug out from under me. My parents are elderly, and I want to maximize use of this toward many many tickets over time to allow them to fly down to see the grandkids.
I did a seperate post asking for advice but didnt get any responses, so I offer $20 paypal or $20 donation to charity of their choice to the person who helps me with my ticket itinerary.
I am looking to convert ticket into whichever airline (preferably AA or CO) that will allow me to use the $3800 over several years with minimal change ticket fees (my guess is my parents tiks from the west coast generally cost $300 when the come out so I'd like to use this for 10+ tickets without the $150 or $250 intl change fee each time).
Thanks in advance for your help.
Mike
I've saved up 180K TYN points, which took years... and was very disappointed that CITI pulled the rug out from under me. My parents are elderly, and I want to maximize use of this toward many many tickets over time to allow them to fly down to see the grandkids.
I did a seperate post asking for advice but didnt get any responses, so I offer $20 paypal or $20 donation to charity of their choice to the person who helps me with my ticket itinerary.
I am looking to convert ticket into whichever airline (preferably AA or CO) that will allow me to use the $3800 over several years with minimal change ticket fees (my guess is my parents tiks from the west coast generally cost $300 when the come out so I'd like to use this for 10+ tickets without the $150 or $250 intl change fee each time).
Thanks in advance for your help.
Mike
You'll get 2 different tickets at $1800 each, try looking for a domestic biz class seat from something like Laredo to Anchorage. You'll have to pay $150 each to change them the first time, and on CO I had to pay the change fee out of pocket. Once you change the first time, and book your first real ticket, the residual must be booked within 1 year. There are no more change fees thereafter, and the residual can be used up til it's gone, and it can be used for more than 1 traveler, even someone not on the original ticket.
Hope that helps.
#741
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: PDX
Programs: AS MVP, HH Diamond
Posts: 2,561
I thought so, but the DL rep kept saying "voucher is not transferable, blah, blah". I would have liked to see that on a DL Web page somewhere ...
So from your response, the verbage to pose to DL CS rep is: "Can I book flights for a companion using the residual value on my e-Credit ?"
Thanks
Scott
So from your response, the verbage to pose to DL CS rep is: "Can I book flights for a companion using the residual value on my e-Credit ?"
Thanks
Scott
#742
Join Date: Feb 2009
Programs: NWA worldperks
Posts: 28
Yeah, keeping it simple, when you go on Expedia to price a 90K biz class ticket, try to get as close to $1945 (before taxes and fees) without going over. You will then pay the displayed taxes and fees (mine were less $50) PLUS the 7.5% excise tax. This will get you to the maximum redemption of $1800..
really wish my drivers edge rebates posted to my account sooner, the $2700 credit would have been the best
#743
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: PDX
Programs: AS MVP, HH Diamond
Posts: 2,561
For DL flyers, RDM-SRQ 9/1-9/5 is $1921.51 + $56.59, or $190.65 of out of pocket taxes and a 'base' fare of $1787.45. Close to $1800, nonrefundable, and a few months out giving you some time to breathe before having to make any changes.
#745
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Mid-Atlantic
Programs: AA Plat, UA Silver, DL Silver, Marriott Titanium, etc.
Posts: 4,210
This is sort of urgent. I think I'm ok on this ticket, but since I have never done this before, I'd like to hear from experienced fixed point redeemers.
I just booked a 90k business class ticket, JFK - YEG on Delta for December 23.
For those of you that are experiencing dong Delta redemptions:
All flights are Delta flight numbers, but some are Delta codeshares of what are currently NW flights. Is there any risk to this to be reduced to the more restrictive NW voucher rules at the time I would cancel and rebook?
I think I can change this without penalty within 24 hours of booking if there would be a problem.
I just booked a 90k business class ticket, JFK - YEG on Delta for December 23.
For those of you that are experiencing dong Delta redemptions:
All flights are Delta flight numbers, but some are Delta codeshares of what are currently NW flights. Is there any risk to this to be reduced to the more restrictive NW voucher rules at the time I would cancel and rebook?
I think I can change this without penalty within 24 hours of booking if there would be a problem.
#746
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: KY, USA
Programs: PC Platinum, Hilton Gold, Marriott Silver
Posts: 111
I thought so, but the DL rep kept saying "voucher is not transferable, blah, blah". I would have liked to see that on a DL Web page somewhere ...
So from your response, the verbage to pose to DL CS rep is: "Can I book flights for a companion using the residual value on my e-Credit ?"
Thanks
Scott
So from your response, the verbage to pose to DL CS rep is: "Can I book flights for a companion using the residual value on my e-Credit ?"
Thanks
Scott
#747
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 812
This is one of those posts that divides folks on here. Some will say your post should be burried, because one of the last remaining loopholes should be kept "private" from Citi/TYN. But, it also hides it from other FTers. Others are thankful because you've found a amethod which many FT'ers (and others) can take advantage of and may not feel so bad about it, due to recent shady moves by TYN program.
Without taking a position - I congratulate you thus far on making the most of the program. =)
Without taking a position - I congratulate you thus far on making the most of the program. =)
If people don't already know this, they should match all their purchase points (which INCLUDES your sign-up bonus and any referral bonuses) with flight points, and then cash out. It is too late to do so before the 3/1 devaluation. Flight points post the statement after the date of the first ticketed flight, eg if your statement closes on the 15th of each month, any tickets whose first flight starts between 1/15 and 2/14 will post with your 3/15 statement.
However, even if you match all your spend with flight points, it still only comes out to a 2-4% rebate at best, so I wouldn't recommend the Premier Pass cards. The Citi Platinum Amex gives you 3-5% rebate (for the first 2 yrs) without the need for flight points. I'm personally going to go back to the SPG Amex card.
FYI, based on the new t&c for the thankyou program, it will be hard to churn cards for multiple sign-up bonuses, since all the TYP earned is subject to being canceled if the associated card is canceled. I guess you can use up the points quickly for gift cards, but it doesn't seem worth the hassle. I think the 25K AA Citi card will now be the best bet for churning, especially since it doesn't have an annual fee.
#748
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 812
Do you know if it might work in following situation with other airlines (say AA)? I book a refundable ticket and pay with Citi card. Then I call up airline and change date which should result in a new ticket #. Then cancel and request a refund which should result in a refund with a different ticket #. Please let me know (PM is fine). Thanks.
That said, I think Southwest tickets are the easiest, since it requires the least outlay. I thought about getting a refundable NYC-SIN ticket for ~$3K (and 25K flight points), but once I realized how Southwest worked, I decided to do that instead (and I also needed some tickets on Southwest anyway). Plus, I think I ended up needing >100K flight points, which was quite easy to do with only ~$475 spent on Southwest.
#749
Join Date: Jun 2004
Posts: 812
Guys,
I've saved up 180K TYN points, which took years... and was very disappointed that CITI pulled the rug out from under me. My parents are elderly, and I want to maximize use of this toward many many tickets over time to allow them to fly down to see the grandkids.
I did a seperate post asking for advice but didnt get any responses, so I offer $20 paypal or $20 donation to charity of their choice to the person who helps me with my ticket itinerary.
I am looking to convert ticket into whichever airline (preferably AA or CO) that will allow me to use the $3800 over several years with minimal change ticket fees (my guess is my parents tiks from the west coast generally cost $300 when the come out so I'd like to use this for 10+ tickets without the $150 or $250 intl change fee each time).
Thanks in advance for your help.
Mike
I've saved up 180K TYN points, which took years... and was very disappointed that CITI pulled the rug out from under me. My parents are elderly, and I want to maximize use of this toward many many tickets over time to allow them to fly down to see the grandkids.
I did a seperate post asking for advice but didnt get any responses, so I offer $20 paypal or $20 donation to charity of their choice to the person who helps me with my ticket itinerary.
I am looking to convert ticket into whichever airline (preferably AA or CO) that will allow me to use the $3800 over several years with minimal change ticket fees (my guess is my parents tiks from the west coast generally cost $300 when the come out so I'd like to use this for 10+ tickets without the $150 or $250 intl change fee each time).
Thanks in advance for your help.
Mike
SFO-YYZ gives you a non-refundable ticket ~$1790 + $200 in taxes (you have to play around with dates to get this price).