Wiki/Reviewi For TYN 90K Fixed Redemption Strategies
Feb 11, 2009, 12:24 pm
#691
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Any disadvantage of booking Hawaii? I have 4 TYP accounts to manage and don't want to wait until the last minute to get the 90k pts.(Since it is 2:1 now anyway) I am planning to get Hawaii with 50K up to $1000, have anyone book that one, which airline?
How about Europe for 60k? Thanks!
How about Europe for 60k? Thanks!
Feb 11, 2009, 12:27 pm
#692
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It is 0.025 per pt at 1000 increment to purchase pts. so at 5000 pts you are talking about $25 x 5 = $125
Feb 11, 2009, 12:29 pm
#693
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I did IND-HNL for Feb15 to Feb19 and it came out at about $1129. That took up 55k points as I was over the 1K limit by a few bucks but I had exactly 55K point and it brought me close enough to the 2 cents per point. Problem with Europe is the taxes will probably be way higher than a domestic redemption. Assuming you are interested in using the credit and not the flight.
Feb 11, 2009, 12:32 pm
#694
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For those of you still looking for that magic $2800 number, I ran across these while looking for a $1800 # (on Expedia):
New York, NY (JFK) to Redding, CA (RDD)
11/25 & 11/30
$2,770.02 + $45.78 taxes & fees = $2,815.80
11:30 am Depart New York (JFK)
Arrive Redding (RDD) 8:43 pm Wed 25-Nov
United United 53 / 170 / 5556
Connect in Los Angeles (LAX), San Francisco (SFO)
10:40 am Depart Redding (RDD)
Arrive New York (JFK) 9:57 pm Mon 30-Nov
United United 5481 / 870
Connect in San Francisco (SFO)
Lots m ore were listed, all around $2800.
-- Scott
New York, NY (JFK) to Redding, CA (RDD)
11/25 & 11/30
$2,770.02 + $45.78 taxes & fees = $2,815.80
11:30 am Depart New York (JFK)
Arrive Redding (RDD) 8:43 pm Wed 25-Nov
United United 53 / 170 / 5556
Connect in Los Angeles (LAX), San Francisco (SFO)
10:40 am Depart Redding (RDD)
Arrive New York (JFK) 9:57 pm Mon 30-Nov
United United 5481 / 870
Connect in San Francisco (SFO)
Lots m ore were listed, all around $2800.
-- Scott
Feb 11, 2009, 1:06 pm
#695
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 28
I just spoke with Thankyou and they are willing to honor the $2700 point cap because I'm a SB client (not FMA, though). I picked out some united flights that fit in the cap. However, they said that ALL United business class flights are refundable so I would get the refund in points. This thread mentioned that I should get non-refundable united business tickets, but that doesn't seem to be an option. How are you guys able to get non-refundable business tickets for United?
Feb 11, 2009, 3:38 pm
#697
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I have just over 150k points, so highest TY level I can reacj is the 140k ticket to Hawaii. While the cap used to be $4200 to Hawaii, I assume the new cap is now $2800.
As has been mentioned before, the challenge with Hawaii routings is to do it without having a first class leg - the UA + CO routing had no F, but I will try to find something on UA metal all the way.
Thanks for the tips!
As has been mentioned before, the challenge with Hawaii routings is to do it without having a first class leg - the UA + CO routing had no F, but I will try to find something on UA metal all the way.
Thanks for the tips!
Still: for ease of change and perhaps to minimize fees, I'd look for all one airline's metal.
The main thing isn't whether a 2-cabin plane is involved: it's what Expedia returns for pricing when you click on Business class. I've seen lots of legit domestic routings posted here that maybe have one United p.s. segment in J and a bunch of normal UA/UX narrowbody metal seated in F. Expedia prices it as a Biz ticket, which makes it OK. I would guess that the same would hold true for Hawaii.
Feb 11, 2009, 6:35 pm
#698
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You are not over the limit.
The price shown at expedia (before tax and fees) includes the 7.5% excise tax. You have $101.99 more to go to reach the limit. The 1800 limit does apply to expedia base price if your agent is willing to price match tax and fees shown on expedia.
The price shown at expedia (before tax and fees) includes the 7.5% excise tax. You have $101.99 more to go to reach the limit. The 1800 limit does apply to expedia base price if your agent is willing to price match tax and fees shown on expedia.
I am about ready to jump the gun on this and finally get it done.
Here's a tentative itinerary, please let me know what you think.
Since it is over the $1800 limit, I figure I'll have to buy some TYP,
at $50 per 5000 pts -- does that sound right???
Thanks
Scott
PS I only have CITIbank and Expedia accounts, plus a CITI Professional MC so I assume I am only eligible for the 2cpp vs 3. I also figure there's not enough time to open a SB accounts with the requisitie FMA card -- I checked the SB site and it seems I have to CALL to open an account, not do it online ??
Plus how long would it take to get that FMA card delivered anyway?
MY $1800 ITINERARY:
New York, NY (JFK) to Eureka, CA (ACV)
DELTA
11/24 & 11/30
$1,833.01 + $53.00 taxes & fees = $1,886.01
4:00 pm Depart New York (JFK)
Arrive Eureka (ACV) 8:55 pm Tue 24-Nov
Delta Delta 95 / 4699
Connect in Salt Lake City (SLC)
6:20 am Depart Eureka (ACV)
Arrive New York (JFK) 6:19 pm Mon 30-Nov
Delta Delta 4664 / 1254 / 164
Connect in Salt Lake City (SLC), Boston (Logan Intl.)
Here's a tentative itinerary, please let me know what you think.
Since it is over the $1800 limit, I figure I'll have to buy some TYP,
at $50 per 5000 pts -- does that sound right???
Thanks
Scott
PS I only have CITIbank and Expedia accounts, plus a CITI Professional MC so I assume I am only eligible for the 2cpp vs 3. I also figure there's not enough time to open a SB accounts with the requisitie FMA card -- I checked the SB site and it seems I have to CALL to open an account, not do it online ??
Plus how long would it take to get that FMA card delivered anyway?
MY $1800 ITINERARY:
New York, NY (JFK) to Eureka, CA (ACV)
DELTA
11/24 & 11/30
$1,833.01 + $53.00 taxes & fees = $1,886.01
4:00 pm Depart New York (JFK)
Arrive Eureka (ACV) 8:55 pm Tue 24-Nov
Delta Delta 95 / 4699
Connect in Salt Lake City (SLC)
6:20 am Depart Eureka (ACV)
Arrive New York (JFK) 6:19 pm Mon 30-Nov
Delta Delta 4664 / 1254 / 164
Connect in Salt Lake City (SLC), Boston (Logan Intl.)
Last edited by michiganflyer; Feb 12, 2009 at 7:19 pm
Feb 11, 2009, 7:17 pm
#699
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UA International rebooking
So I am planning to do the Europe 180k TY points for $3600. I called UA for their cancelling policy regarding International->International. Here's what the agent told me
- Assuming a flight from JFK to London, the change fee is $200. (She said the change fee varies depend on routing)
- has to rebook within 1 year of original ticket date
- when I rebook for another international ticket, it does not matter if the booking class or routing is different.
- I can only rebook for myself, and cannot use any residue value for a 2nd passenger. E.g., I cannot split the $3600 into 2 $1700 tickets for me and my wife. My wife's ticket needs to be paid out of pocket in a separate reservation
The last point seems to contradict with what others are reporting.
I have tried different UA routings/dates on Expedia for JFK/SFO/LAX to LHR, but cannot come up with anything close to $3600. The max I can get is only $3100 + $4xx tax. Aslo tried Paris/Frankfurt and others and they are on the other end ($7000+). Anyone tried this?
- Assuming a flight from JFK to London, the change fee is $200. (She said the change fee varies depend on routing)
- has to rebook within 1 year of original ticket date
- when I rebook for another international ticket, it does not matter if the booking class or routing is different.
- I can only rebook for myself, and cannot use any residue value for a 2nd passenger. E.g., I cannot split the $3600 into 2 $1700 tickets for me and my wife. My wife's ticket needs to be paid out of pocket in a separate reservation
The last point seems to contradict with what others are reporting.
I have tried different UA routings/dates on Expedia for JFK/SFO/LAX to LHR, but cannot come up with anything close to $3600. The max I can get is only $3100 + $4xx tax. Aslo tried Paris/Frankfurt and others and they are on the other end ($7000+). Anyone tried this?
Last edited by busterbaxter; Feb 11, 2009 at 7:37 pm
Feb 11, 2009, 8:03 pm
#700
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So I am planning to do the Europe 180k TY points for $3600. I called UA for their cancelling policy regarding International->International. Here's what the agent told me
- Assuming a flight from JFK to London, the change fee is $200. (She said the change fee varies depend on routing)
- has to rebook within 1 year of original ticket date
- when I rebook for another international ticket, it does not matter if the booking class or routing is different.
- I can only rebook for myself, and cannot use any residue value for a 2nd passenger. E.g., I cannot split the $3600 into 2 $1700 tickets for me and my wife. My wife's ticket needs to be paid out of pocket in a separate reservation
The last point seems to contradict with what others are reporting.
I have tried different UA routings/dates on Expedia for JFK/SFO/LAX to LHR, but cannot come up with anything close to $3600. The max I can get is only $3100 + $4xx tax. Aslo tried Paris/Frankfurt and others and they are on the other end ($7000+). Anyone tried this?
- Assuming a flight from JFK to London, the change fee is $200. (She said the change fee varies depend on routing)
- has to rebook within 1 year of original ticket date
- when I rebook for another international ticket, it does not matter if the booking class or routing is different.
- I can only rebook for myself, and cannot use any residue value for a 2nd passenger. E.g., I cannot split the $3600 into 2 $1700 tickets for me and my wife. My wife's ticket needs to be paid out of pocket in a separate reservation
The last point seems to contradict with what others are reporting.
I have tried different UA routings/dates on Expedia for JFK/SFO/LAX to LHR, but cannot come up with anything close to $3600. The max I can get is only $3100 + $4xx tax. Aslo tried Paris/Frankfurt and others and they are on the other end ($7000+). Anyone tried this?
Your credit must first be used by the ticketed traveler (you). Residual can be others. If there are two of you traveling together, book two separate itens then go to the airport for ticketing (yours first, get the residual value, then apply funds toward traveling companion).
As others have recommended, making the change online and waiting for the large $$ travel credit to arrive in the mail may be risky. If you can, go to the airport for the change of ticket.
Feb 11, 2009, 9:26 pm
#701
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Posts: 176
Can anyone confirm that for int'l flights, the taxes that TYP charges are exactly what expedia shows as opposed to the differential in the taxes shown for domestic flights? Thanks!
Feb 11, 2009, 9:44 pm
#702
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Feb 11, 2009, 9:56 pm
#703
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Feb 12, 2009, 4:11 pm
#704
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Excise Taxes
Let me see if I understand this Excise Tax thing:
You (TRAVELLER) have to pay the 7.5% EXCISE TAX out of pocket.
The EXPEDIA displayed "BASE" ticket price includes Excise tax;
So, the MAX "FREE" ticket is displayed as $1935 = $1800 + $135 EXCISE.
TOTAL OUT OF POCKET IS MAX $135 EXCISE + the $40+ Taxes shown by Expedia.
Correct?
Thanks
Scott
You (TRAVELLER) have to pay the 7.5% EXCISE TAX out of pocket.
The EXPEDIA displayed "BASE" ticket price includes Excise tax;
So, the MAX "FREE" ticket is displayed as $1935 = $1800 + $135 EXCISE.
TOTAL OUT OF POCKET IS MAX $135 EXCISE + the $40+ Taxes shown by Expedia.
Correct?
Thanks
Scott
Feb 12, 2009, 4:54 pm
#705
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Irvine, CA USA
Posts: 76
I'd say that's a good development in light of the devaluation. At least we'll net a little more relative to out of pocket costs. If taxes are only $50-80 or whatever, that's better than $200, even if it does get added to the value of the ticket (makes it closer to "free").